Updating Corpus Christi TX area systems ?

[rattlerbb01]

Looks like it’s already updated!

It's cold and I am bored!

 

[Michael-SATX]

Thanks Paul (rattlerbb01) you the man ! I have lost track of how many subs you worked today Lots !

See Gus 197 subs is nationwide , Paul has our area covered - so pile on while it's cold ~ kiddling

OK Case were you the DSD+ Guru that submitted the NEXEDGE 4800 System 303 Site#9 in Corpus?
In North Central San Antonio my DSD+ v2.8FL shows System 303 Site#1 on todays CC=451.10625
I will have to get closer to my other local sites and submit the updates when I can - not today ...
Here is our System 303 page that needs some TLC S & P Communications (NEXEDGE 303) Trunking System, San Antonio, Texas - Scanner Frequencies
I can see by the License more sites WQUD572 (Nathan Sherman Enterprises, Inc. dba S & P Communications) FCC Callsign Details

Happy New Year Gus and Case and go validate Texas A&M LTR really is LCN # 1,2,3,4 w/ no gaps ?

 

[stwc]

I have no clue about the A&M system, each frequency has a data burst, but I can’t get LTR Analyzer to decode any information off any of the 4 frequencies.

 

[Michael-SATX]

Texas A&M data bursts are every 2 or every 8 seconds ?

I have no clue about the A&M system, each frequency has a data burst, but I can’t get LTR Analyzer to decode any information off any of the 4 frequencies.

Case are those data bursts occuring every 2 seconds (LTR Passport) or every 8 seconds (LTR Standard)?

Current RRDB show these 4 001 (1) Texas A&M 01 453.0625 02 453.3875 03 453.6375 04 453.9625

Texas A&M license WQWK371 at 6300 Ocean Drive shows 6x100W freqs as IG Conv not YG trunked ?
Check all 6 of these and lets see if Gus can run his 436's LCN Finder report ? Could this be LTR-NET ?
I thought maybe another site in Port Aransas, but that Marine Science Institute is part of UT in Austin.
453.3125 - On Lic - Is it active or data bursting ?
453.3875 - RRDB as Site#1 LCN#2
453.4375 - On Lic - Is it active or data bursting ?
453.4875 - On Lic - Is it active or data bursting ?
453.5625 - On Lic - Is it active or data bursting ?
453.6375 - RRDB as Site#2 LCN#3

Note: The above 6 freqs do have +5 Mhz 25 Watt matched input freqs but these 2 below don't add up ?
453.0625 - RRDB as Site#1 LCN#1 - on license as a 2w input freq ? Is LCN#1 a typo maybe 453.5625?
453.9625 - RRDB as Site#1 LCN#4 - on license as a 2w input freq ? Is LCN#4 another messed up typo?

OK Case so no decode with LTR Analyzer did you try the LTR Analyzer-NET version to see any results ?
What tapped scanner are you using ? Is the signal strong enough at you house to decode ? weak signal ?
Case were you the submitter who updated Centronix LTR-NET - Del Mar College ? #3 marked as cc?
I wonder if Hurricane Harvey damaged any coastal systems and they still have not been restored yet ?

 

[nd5y]

I have seen several standard LTR systems that send data bursts that LTR-Analyzer will not decode even though it works perfectly when there is a voice transmission.

 

[stwc]

Case are those data bursts occuring every 2 seconds (LTR Passport) or every 8 seconds (LTR Standard)?

Current RRDB show these 4 001 (1) Texas A&M 01 453.0625 02 453.3875 03 453.6375 04 453.9625

Texas A&M license WQWK371 at 6300 Ocean Drive shows 6x100W freqs as IG Conv not YG trunked ?
Check all 6 of these and lets see if Gus can run his 436's LCN Finder report ? Could this be LTR-NET ?
I thought maybe another site in Port Aransas, but that Marine Science Institute is part of UT in Austin.
453.3125 - On Lic - Is it active or data bursting ?
453.3875 - RRDB as Site#1 LCN#2
453.4375 - On Lic - Is it active or data bursting ?
453.4875 - On Lic - Is it active or data bursting ?
453.5625 - On Lic - Is it active or data bursting ?
453.6375 - RRDB as Site#2 LCN#3

Note: The above 6 freqs do have +5 Mhz 25 Watt matched input freqs but these 2 below don't add up ?
453.0625 - RRDB as Site#1 LCN#1 - on license as a 2w input freq ? Is LCN#1 a typo maybe 453.5625?
453.9625 - RRDB as Site#1 LCN#4 - on license as a 2w input freq ? Is LCN#4 another messed up typo?

OK Case so no decode with LTR Analyzer did you try the LTR Analyzer-NET version to see any results ?
What tapped scanner are you using ? Is the signal strong enough at you house to decode ? weak signal ?
Case were you the submitter who updated Centronix LTR-NET - Del Mar College ? #3 marked as cc?
I wonder if Hurricane Harvey damaged any coastal systems and they still have not been restored yet ?

The A&M LTR system is correct, all the LCN’s are correct. But the only traffic I hear is on #1. Will try other systems later.

 

[Michael-SATX]

Case, when the A&M Security PD finally talked on HR1 did LTR Analyzer reveal map of 2,3,4 as free ?
nd5y posted about his LTR Analyzer not decoding idle bursts only TG's. LTR data frame standards?

Ok so I imagine now that the system solving mystery bandit got all those generic Citgo TG's submitted
maybe the Valero LTR-Net system is next Try loading each site as an LTR Standard for Discovery ?
I read in a thread that a user did this ok however, we don't have any LTR-NET's here to try this on etc.

 

[Michael-SATX]

Case or any DSD+ user in Corpus Christi ... Let's solve the custom channel map on this system:
S&P Communications (NEXEDGE System 303) S & P Communications (NEXEDGE 303) Trunking System, Various, Texas - Scanner Frequencies

Site #1 North Central SA by my house DSD+ reports this custom channel ID to frequency map as:
001 (1) North Central San Antonio Bexar (CH-12)=451.0875c (CH-15)=451.10625a (CH-18)=451.1250v

Site #9 Corpus Christi Nueces - verify 450 range CH ID's and see what DSD+ reports for 460 range ?

CH ID=160 should cross map to 1 452.0125
CH ID=210 should cross map to 2 452.3250
CH ID=242 should cross map to 3 452.5250
CH ID=478 should cross map to 4 454.0000

So please check todays Site#9 active CC and report back what DSD+ reports the freqs CH ID # as ?
For each CH ID number increase the frequency should increase by 0.00625 Mhz ...
Once a 460 range freq is nailed down for THIS systems custom freq map we will nail down the rest

5 461.125c
6 461.625
7 461.925
8 462.0875
9 463.7250
10 464.0625
11 464.950

At present present DSD+ shows the following System 303 CC CH ID's as Neighbors
CH ID Frequency
12 451.08750c Site#1 SATX verified CH# to Freq RX
15 451.10625a Site#1 SATX Verified CH# to Freq RX
18 451.12500v Site#1 SATX Verified CH# to Freq RX
294 452.85000c Site#? Unknown City/County Location
319 453.00625c Site#? Unknown City/County Location
548 ?
551 ?
573 ?
927 ?
928 ?
933 ?
949 ?
981 ?
999 ?

 

[ralexander5]

I'm in Live Oak County and can receive 2 sites that appear to be in same system.

303- 3 Control Channel 389 - 461.075
981 - ??
303-10 Control Channel 62 - 451.400

Neither one appears to be licensed to S&P.

 

[gus426]

Case or any DSD+ user in Corpus Christi ... Let's solve the custom channel map on this system:
S&P Communications (NEXEDGE System 303) S & P Communications (NEXEDGE 303) Trunking System, Various, Texas - Scanner Frequencies

Site #1 North Central SA by my house DSD+ reports this custom channel ID to frequency map as:
001 (1) North Central San Antonio Bexar (CH-12)=451.0875c (CH-15)=451.10625a (CH-18)=451.1250v

Site #9 Corpus Christi Nueces - verify 450 range CH ID's and see what DSD+ reports for 460 range ?

CH ID=160 should cross map to 1 452.0125
CH ID=210 should cross map to 2 452.3250
CH ID=242 should cross map to 3 452.5250
CH ID=478 should cross map to 4 454.0000

So please check todays Site#9 active CC and report back what DSD+ reports the freqs CH ID # as ?
For each CH ID number increase the frequency should increase by 0.00625 Mhz ...
Once a 460 range freq is nailed down for THIS systems custom freq map we will nail down the rest

5 461.125c
6 461.625
7 461.925
8 462.0875
9 463.7250
10 464.0625
11 464.950

At present present DSD+ shows the following System 303 CC CH ID's as Neighbors
CH ID Frequency
12 451.08750c Site#1 SATX verified CH# to Freq RX
15 451.10625a Site#1 SATX Verified CH# to Freq RX
18 451.12500v Site#1 SATX Verified CH# to Freq RX
294 452.85000c Site#? Unknown City/County Location
319 453.00625c Site#? Unknown City/County Location
548 ?
551 ?
573 ?
927 ?
928 ?
933 ?
949 ?
981 ?
999 ?

Hi Michael, sorry I never got back with you on the other LTR system we were working on. I've had a few things happen that took me away from playing with scanners and radios. For one thing I left a job I've been at for a long time I've started a new job so it's taking me some time to get back on track with my hobbies. I've tried to get DSD+ working I kind of hit a road block with it. I was able to get Unitrtrunker going. That's as far as I got.. I hope to hear back from you.

Gus

 

[rattlerbb01]

Michael,

I am all over South Texas and I hear NXDN control channels on S&P (BNS or Nathan Sherman) licensed UHFs everywhere, but for the life of me, I cannot figure out how to even get DSD started. I have the RS mono-USB cable that I use with my PSR500 that works great with Unitrunker or Pro96Com. I would be able to map out a ton of area with this system if I could get it working. I have heard towers in Atascosa, Dimmit, Zavala, LaSalle, McMullen, Live Oak, Duval, etc.....

Do you or anyone else have experience using the USB-mono adapter for the PSR500 with DSD?

 

[Michael-SATX]

We need an updating Live Oak Co expansion thread !

I'm in Live Oak County and can receive 2 sites that appear to be in same system.

303- 3 Control Channel 389 - 461.075
981 - ??
303-10 Control Channel 62 - 451.400

Neither one appears to be licensed to S&P.

Thanks Mr Alexander for your help, this is how this system looks thanks to Paul so far in the RRDB.
Next time your DSD+ reports that your Live Oak Co CC has rotated from CH-389 to CH-981
post what that frequency is and we build it out slow and not just post all 6 on BNS Lic WPRX519
especially since I don't yet see 4K00F7W NEXEDGE emmisions on Lic but rather just 1K2F3E class.
How have you managed 4 posts in 10 years ? Are you using SDR's or a tapped scanner w/DSD+ ?
Now that you have boots on the ground in Live Oak Co I'll bet you can find more than these 2 Co freqs:
155.01000 KA2731 RM 173.8 PL Live Oak SO Disp Sheriff Dispatch (includes EMS) wow 300 watts !
155.05500 KYK506 RM 173.8 PL Live Oak Commiss Commissioners T/A what type of comm traffic ?
When you can check your Live Oak Airport for RX of 122.7 AM Unicom ? 10 watt Lic K1V7 and post it.
Also I see Industrial Communications most likely has an LTR Standard TRS Lic=WPSQ521 YG 40watts.
Further, I see these 100w freqs licensed to Corpus Christi 158.25 and 851.0125,851.5125 & 852.0125.
So are these 85x Mhz EDACS TRS freqs that might fill in the site gaps and belong to this fading system ?
Four County Coastal Bend Interoperational System Trunking System, Corpus Christi, Texas - Scanner Frequencies

S & P Communications (NEXEDGE 303)
001 (1) North Central San Antonio Bexar 451.0875c 451.10625a 451.125
003 (3) George West Live Oak 461.075c
009 (9) Corpus Christi Nueces 452.0125 452.325 452.525 454.000 461.125c 461.625 461.925
462.0875 463.725 464.0625 464.950 (something tells me all 11 of these are NOT used)
010 (A) Freer Duval 451.400c
012 (C) Kenedy Karnes 461.5125c 461.975 463.400 464.4375 464.900

 

[Michael-SATX]

Welcome back Gus ~ let's discuss your radio hobby

Hi Michael, sorry I never got back with you on the other LTR system we were working on. I've had a few things happen that took me away from playing with scanners and radios. For one thing I left a job I've been at for a long time I've started a new job so it's taking me some time to get back on track with my hobbies. I've tried to get DSD+ working I kind of hit a road block with it. I was able to get Unitrtrunker going. That's as far as I got.. I hope to hear back from you.
Gus

No worries Gus that just leaves stwc (Case) with the entire Nueces Co playing field all to himself ,,, ?
This is when you say "put me in coach" and you go out for a few passes and see what you can catch ?
Good luck with your new job and don't get caught pulling out your scanner and get written up for RX ing
As far as your source input for DSD+ you might try a $20 SDR USB dongle piped to Virtual Audio Cable
method since you said you sold your RS Pro-651 scanner that could have been discriminator tapped (TP4)
OK Gus run out to the Valero Refinery wide open empty field for a pass and try to catch it's first talkgroup!
Now remember grasshoper to expirement with your 436 and manually program each site (East & West)
as LTR Standard vs LTR-NET and just see if running Discovery mode on your 436 turns up any catches ?
Or try to download and tackle the SDRtrunk program that can decode LTR-NET & Passport my favorite
For every road block there is usually a way around it like what other scanners can be "tapped" into action?
Valero Refining (Corpus Christi) Trunking System, Corpus Christi, Texas - Scanner Frequencies

 

[Michael-SATX]

Im thinking about a 1/8" output jack on your PSR-500 ?

Michael,

I am all over South Texas and I hear NXDN control channels on S&P (BNS or Nathan Sherman) licensed UHFs everywhere, but for the life of me, I cannot figure out how to even get DSD started. I have the RS mono-USB cable that I use with my PSR500 that works great with Unitrunker or Pro96Com. I would be able to map out a ton of area with this system if I could get it working. I have heard towers in Atascosa, Dimmit, Zavala, LaSalle, McMullen, Live Oak, Duval, etc.....

Do you or anyone else have experience using the USB-mono adapter for the PSR500 with DSD?

Paul, I'm thinking about a 1/8" discriminator output jack installed on your old reliable GRECOM PSR-500 ?
Your wife would be cool with that and that tiny modification would even evade all credit card statements
Unlike the Unitrunker program that can use your USB to "Stereo" adapter with your PSR-500 as "in-line"
input souce method that won't work for source feeding to DSD+ for decoding ... sorry for the bad news
You load up your best behaved out of your 4 kids for an excuse to get out of the house for a top secret:
"Mission Possible" trip to say Whataburger and I'll see to it that they get your order "tapped" correctly !
You hand me your PSR-500 and I'll stay in the parking lot in my truck and install your discriminator tap
output jack on the side of your PSR-500's case. By the time your kids are all happily feed and tranquilized
I'll have tested your scanners discriminator output on my latops DSD+ and your laptop after you eat etc.
After you hand me my Whataburger to go bag we shake hands and I'll then expect to see NEXEDGE sites
submitted every time I turn around and lQQk at the RRDB btw~this tape will self destruct in 5 seconds!

 

[rattlerbb01]

Paul, I'm thinking about a 1/8" discriminator output jack installed on your old reliable GRECOM PSR-500 ?
Your wife would be cool with that and that tiny modification would even evade all credit card statements
Unlike the Unitrunker program that can use your USB to "Stereo" adapter with your PSR-500 as "in-line"
input souce method that won't work for source feeding to DSD+ for decoding ... sorry for the bad news
You load up your best behaved out of your 4 kids for an excuse to get out of the house for a top secret:
"Mission Possible" trip to say Whataburger and I'll see to it that they get your order "tapped" correctly !
You hand me your PSR-500 and I'll stay in the parking lot in my truck and install your discriminator tap
output jack on the side of your PSR-500's case. By the time your kids are all happily feed and tranquilized
I'll have tested your scanners discriminator output on my latops DSD+ and your laptop after you eat etc.
After you hand me my Whataburger to go bag we shake hands and I'll then expect to see NEXEDGE sites
submitted every time I turn around and lQQk at the RRDB btw~this tape will self destruct in 5 seconds!

Lol, we'll see what we can arrange. Thanks

 

[ralexander5]

Michael,

I let DSD+ run on 303-3 last night and it switched to channel 981 which is 464.425.
Site 303-10 is now on channel 160 452.0125.

Other sites control channels that were reported where:
303-5 310
303-2 118
303-1 15

I use a SDRPlay with SDRuno for the feed into DSD+. I have also used the USB dongles but the SDRplay has much better sensitivity.

As far as other County frequencies the ones you listed are what I have found. Everybody is dispatched on the SO channel.

I have never heard anything on the Corpus licensed frequencies.

 

[Michael-SATX]

Nice Work from the patch !

Michael,

I let DSD+ run on 303-3 last night and it switched to channel 981 which is 464.425.
Site 303-10 is now on channel 160 452.0125.

Other sites control channels that were reported where:
303-5 310
303-2 118
303-1 15

I use a SDRPlay with SDRuno for the feed into DSD+. I have also used the USB dongles but the SDRplay has much better sensitivity.

As far as other County frequencies the ones you listed are what I have found. Everybody is dispatched on the SO channel.

I have never heard anything on the Corpus licensed frequencies.

Thanks Mr _____ (first name goes here) Alexander ! Do you hear any ISD or LE type TG's ?
Your 2 new freqs were submitted and thus far things are looking as follows for this system:
Nice SDR box you have there and what scanner models do you have available for research ?

001 (1) North Central San Antonio Bexar (12)451.0875c,(15)451.10625a,(18) 451.125
002 (2) Unknown but maybe Austin Travis WRS721 ? (118)451.7500 ,(927)464.0875 ,(977)464.400
003 (3) George West Live Oak (389)461.075c (981)464.4250a what are some observed site VC's ?
009 (9) Corpus Christi Nueces (397)461.125c (477)461.625a what are some observed site VC's ?
010 (A) Freer Duval (62)451.400c (160)452.0125a
012 (C) Kennedy Karnes 461.5125c 461.975 463.400 464.4375 464.900

ps ~ I will post in my dead Updating S&P Communication (Austin) thread to see if they have this Site#2?
However, I hate to pile on being that 5 months ago I asked for "Team Austin" help and got no end results!
asking for a simple Austin Passport Site ID# (462.0875) and to update and old LTR Standard TRS.

btw ~ Speaking of LTR Standard let me by all means attempt to beat a likely retired or dead horse:
In George West - Live Oak County Check one more time for an Industrial Communications LTR TRS
FCC Lic WPSQ521 40W YG 451.300, 451.8375, 452.2125, 452.350. 452.4625 & 452.7500
Tune In these 6 freqs do you hear any 7 sec data bursts (LTR) or 2 sec data bursts (LTR Passport) ?

 

[Michael-SATX]

I am at work in Tilden/Cotulla so I would be of no help until I get back Friday.

Paul(rattlerbb01) while your down in Cotulla, bust out your PSR-500 and TUNE these freqs below:
You are checking for what I believe could be Site#5 that may be in either Cotulla or Pearsall perhaps ?

005 (5) Cotulla La Salle 451.450,451.875,452.3625,452.68125,(319)453.00625c,463.7375,464.6875
005 (5) Pearsall Frio Co 451.775,452.20625,452.4625,452.7375,453.00625,

S & P Communications (NEXEDGE 303)
001 (1) North Central San Antonio Bexar (12)451.0875c, (15)451.10625a, (18) 451.125v
002 (2) Austin Travis WRS721 ? (118)451.7500=?, (927)464.0875=?, (977)464.400=?
003 (3) George West Live Oak (389)461.075c, (981)464.4250a
009 (9) Corpus Christi Nueces (397)461.125c, (477)461.625a
010 (A) Freer Duval (62)451.400c, (160)452.0125a
012 (C) Kennedy Karnes (459)461.5125c, 461.975, 463.400, 464.4375, 464.900

Case(stwc) DSD+ reports your 2 rotating Site#9 Corpus Christi - Nueces County location:
Known Control Channels as only these: (397)461.125c, (477)461.625a
Q #1: What does DSD+ report as VC's voice channels ?
Q #2: Has your site #9 come alive with any LOCAL TG's ? If so what are they ?
ps ~ I want to delete the posted 11 site #9 freqs are ONLY list the 2 rotating CC's and any active VC's

 

[ralexander5]

Thanks Mr _____ (first name goes here) Alexander ! Do you hear any ISD or LE type TG's ?
Your 2 new freqs were submitted and thus far things are looking as follows for this system:
Nice SDR box you have there and what scanner models do you have available for research ?

001 (1) North Central San Antonio Bexar (12)451.0875c,(15)451.10625a,(18) 451.125
002 (2) Unknown but maybe Austin Travis WRS721 ? (118)451.7500 ,(927)464.0875 ,(977)464.400
003 (3) George West Live Oak (389)461.075c (981)464.4250a what are some observed site VC's ?
009 (9) Corpus Christi Nueces (397)461.125c (477)461.625a what are some observed site VC's ?
010 (A) Freer Duval (62)451.400c (160)452.0125a
012 (C) Kennedy Karnes 461.5125c 461.975 463.400 464.4375 464.900

ps ~ I will post in my dead Updating S&P Communication (Austin) thread to see if they have this Site#2?
However, I hate to pile on being that 5 months ago I asked for "Team Austin" help and got no end results!
asking for a simple Austin Passport Site ID# (462.0875) and to update and old LTR Standard TRS.

btw ~ Speaking of LTR Standard let me by all means attempt to beat a likely retired or dead horse:
In George West - Live Oak County Check one more time for an Industrial Communications LTR TRS
FCC Lic WPSQ521 40W YG 451.300, 451.8375, 452.2125, 452.350. 452.4625 & 452.7500
Tune In these 6 freqs do you hear any 7 sec data bursts (LTR) or 2 sec data bursts (LTR Passport) ?

I ran DSD+ for a couple of days and came up with one additional voice channel for George West.
589 - 462.325.

I recorded TG 801, 3901 and 1904 being used and all of the voice record sound like oil field related activities; "turn on a heater" , "open valve to drain".

No LE or ISD seen other than the Karnes Co ISD already ID'd. I will check next week when spring break is over to see if there is any other school activity.

I monitored the LTR frequencies and heard a data burst that was about a second long about every 10 seconds on 452.4625 and a occasional approximate 7 second long burst, but only head on Sunday evening and never since.

Also setup to record the Corpus Christi freqs for Live Oak and only caught on ID being broadcast on 851.4625.

Bob

 

[Michael-SATX]

Go Team Live Oak County - show newbies how it's done!

I ran DSD+ for a couple of days and came up with one additional voice channel for George West.
589 - 462.325.

I recorded TG 801, 3901 and 1904 being used and all of the voice record sound like oil field related activities; "turn on a heater" , "open valve to drain".

No LE or ISD seen other than the Karnes Co ISD already ID'd. I will check next week when spring break is over to see if there is any other school activity.

I monitored the LTR frequencies and heard a data burst that was about a second long about every 10 seconds on 452.4625 and a occasional approximate 7 second long burst, but only head on Sunday evening and never since.

Also setup to record the Corpus Christi freqs for Live Oak and only caught on ID being broadcast on 851.4625.

Bob

GREat job Bob you will have 6 more posts for a total of 12 before next week is even up !

So let's clarify If I understand you correctly on your site #3 freqs and their role playing observed so far:
389=CC primary and VC, 589=VC Voice Only never been a CC, 981=CC secondary and VC (see below)

003 (3) George West Live Oak (389)461.075c (589)462.325v (981)464.4250a (already submitted like this)

On my site #1 12=CC primary and VC, 15=CC secondary and VC, 18=VC Voice only never been a CC
So our 2 sites differ in that only my 1st & 2nd freqs rotate being the CC and your 1st & 3rd rotate as CC
001 (1) North Central San Antonio Bexar (12)451.0875c,(15)451.10625a,(18) 451.125v

TG 801 - I first saw this new 3/8/18 Fri 6:30pm & 10:31pm with RID=810 with alias of (3C C4) meaning ?
TG 1904 - I have not seen or heard this TG so far.
TG 3901 - School Buses w/ RID-3901=(Bus23) and 3904=(Bus17) (maybe additional TG for KCISD use ?)

ps ~ I can see another future blemish on Live Oak Countys squeaky clean RRDB page with the following:
New Trunking System Name: Industrial Communications (George West) - LTR Standard
LCN#?? 452.4625 (Hey at least it CWID's which should reveal it's LCN#? and if it's a HR Home Repeater)
Wildcard TG's Hit Counter=0 after a few weeks maybe its a dead horse or you may find a rare gem TG
FCC Lic WPSQ521 40W YG 451.300, 451.8375, 452.2125, 452.350. 452.4625 & 452.7500 (put em all)
So best tool would be one of your Pro-197's, manually setup a new LTR and add all 6 freqs on license
Make darn sure to check or enable "Auto Move" or LTR Auto Place feature and create a Wildcard TG etc.
During that hourly, bi-hourly CWID and or an active TG - your 197 will place 452.4625 in it's correct LCN#
I would start off by placing those 6 freqs from LCN#14 thru LCN#20 so that 1 thru 13 are wide open and
besides it will be much easier to notice say when all of a sudden 452.4625 becomes say LCN#2 example.
Sometimes depending on RX conditions you might manually sit on your newly created wildcard TG object
in this manually created LTR Standard TRS, press TSYS(F2), then press Analyz(F3), the scroll down to
the freq 452.4625 and just let it sit awaiting either an actuall active TG or usually a CWID or with our local
Industrial Communications LTR systems when the 7 sec idle data bursts hits the freqs LCN# is revealed
Next make sure that your Pro-197 Hit Count feature is enabled and heck even make the wildcard a FAV !
Also set a "Ring" alert with a flashing white LED mode tied to this new Wildcard TG to alert when active.
So set and forget it while you go to work and sleep. Then drill down once a day and check WC's hit count.
CWID's will not trip this count only new voice TG's and make sure if your right there to hit Store & label it.

Lastly, I saw these 100w freqs licensed to Corpus Christi 158.25 and 851.0125,851.5125 & 852.0125.
You said that you only caught on an automated CWID being broadcast on 851.4625 is this freq a typo ?
Also program these 4 freqs as conventional with yes maybe a beep alert with flashing Blue LED setting.
So are these 85x Mhz EDACS TRS freqs that might fill in the site gaps and belong to this fading system ?
I can't think of what these 85x freqs would belong to or were once planned to go to but the following TRS ?
Four County Coastal Bend Interoperational System Trunking System, Corpus Christi, Texas

How is this reply for a proper response ?

Well Bob that's a nice collection of scanners to blaze the trail in your Live Oak and surrounding counties

Wait for our dedicated DB admin rattlerbb01(Paul) to hit the trail next week w/a tapped BC785D & DSD+ !
Pretty sQQn this S&P NEXEDGE 303 is going to fly right by the S&P NEXEDGE 68 business network ...
and if an inside track source is correct it will be way more interesting monitoring consisting of LE TG's