Vibrating during radio traffic

[krokus]

While monitoring a call, which had moved onto a fireground TG, my G4 would vibrate whenever someone transmitted on that TG.

There is only one zone in the unit, and that knob position is set for tone & vibrate, whereas the position I use the most is tone only. But the unit does not alert on any other radio traffic, so I am surprised by the vibration.

Am I misunderstanding something in the programming?



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[APX8000]

Sounds like a programming issue on your part. Make sure that knob position is set to silent and you shouldn't get the vibration.


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[krokus]

Sounds like a programming issue on your part. Make sure that knob position is set to silent and you shouldn't get the vibration.


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I still want the pager to alert, when any of the four PageGroups come across. Those four are at the top of the priority list, as they are on the knob position I primarily utilize. That is why I wonder if there is a difference in how the vibrate is processed.

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[APX8000]

Maybe I misunderstood. So it's vibrating on both tone and voice? And you want it to vibrate on just a tone alert?


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[krokus]

When it alerts, I want tone and vibrate. However, I only want it to alert on the PageGroups in that knob position. Most of the knob positions have more TG than just the PageGroups in them.

This was the first time I had used that knob position, so I had not noticed the behavior before. (My department has not made our transition to digital paging, yet. I am the main test subject, for my department.)

 

[APX8000]

Ok. Are the page groups on the trunked system, conventional analog or P25 digital ? The reason why I'm asking is Unication does not decode tones on a trunked talkgroup...it alerts for any activity on that talkgroup itself. In other words, Department A would have its own talkgroup for tone outs. The pager will alert when it hears any activity on that talkgroup. Department B would have to be on a different talkgroup just for them. Not like an APX where you can have numerous tone sets on different Hz going over the same talkgroup and it only opening when the correct tone set it heard.


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[krokus]

Ok. Are the page groups on the trunked system, conventional analog or P25 digital ?

PageGroups are what MPSCS calls TG that are just for paging. They are automatically routed to programmed towers, due to lack of affiliated radios. In most cases, the dispatch is multi-selected on the PageGroup and that agency's primary working TG.

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[tdeater]

Just a thougt, on the fireground TG in the group id setting tab in the software, make sure the alert tone is set to none. My thought is that if you have a tone set there, then it will indicate to the software that this is a page group and to treat it as such. I am not finding a place where you can specify a specific talk group to be vibrate or audible, that is set by the knob position settings.

I have run into that myself where I forgot to set that to none when I added a TG to monitor.

 

[krokus]

Just a thougt, on the fireground TG in the group id setting tab in the software, make sure the alert tone is set to none. My thought is that if you have a tone set there, then it will indicate to the software that this is a page group and to treat it as such. I am not finding a place where you can specify a specific talk group to be vibrate or audible, that is set by the knob position settings.

I have run into that myself where I forgot to set that to none when I added a TG to monitor.

The audio alert was set to none. None of my pagegroups were transmitting, so I could not compare. (I have my department's pagegroups in my handheld, but did not test those.)

I just experimented with two changes in programming:
1) Changed another knob position to tone & vibrate.
2) Changed the original affected knob position to tone only.

Change one resulted in the pager vibrating for any traffic on the TG in that knob position.

Change two resulted in vibration cessation, during traffic on one of the previously affected TG.

This leads to my concluding that the pager is alerting, for any traffic received. Obviously, this is not acceptable when we want to monitor some TG, want to only have alerts for our pagegroups, and want vibrate as an option for alerts. This would seem to need a change in firmware, allowing granular control, whether a TG alerts or not. (With the knob position determining the type(s) of alert.)

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Edited for a typo