Visiting Disney's Hilton Head Resort

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MiamiSO21

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I will be going to Disney's Hilton Head Resort in a couple of weeks. I have never been there before, or to South Carolina for that matter. I will be taking my 296D with me and was looking for monitoring suggestions.
 

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I answered my own question...

Hilton Head Island Fire and Rescue provides fire protection and emergency medical services to HHI. Beaufort County provides law enforcement on the island. There is no HHI police. The Disney resort, the best way I figure it is in Shelter Cove which is part of Palmetto Dunes Plantation. They have there own private security as does every other private community on HHI. Neighborhoods are called plantations on the Island, and each has a security agency.

Talk groups are listed for the security agencies on the island, but most use their own UHF repeater systems. I believe that the security TGs are for mutual aid.

I hope you have a great time!!
 

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Here's a link to a FCC ULS database search of licenses covering a 3-mile radius from Shelter Cove.

There are ALOT of frequencies licensed to 2 Nextel sites in the area. It would not surprise me to learn that the Hilton Head Disney resort is using Nextel, considering the changeover of communications at Disney World in Orlando.

If you have access to Microsoft Excel, the search data might be easier to use by cutting and pasting the information to a blank Excel worksheet, then deleting the Nextel entries.

Thanks for the mention of this resort. I was not familiar with it, although we enjoy staying on the grounds at WDW when in Orlando. The web information looks like it might be a nice getaway for a couple of days during the off-season.


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Plantation Security Forces

I was just on HHI this past week and did some research...

Sea Pines, Shipyard and Port Royal plantation security forces all use the Savannah Communications 800 trunk that is located on the island:
http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&sid=2923

I'd post talkgroups but I was monitoring with the wrong fleetmap so my info is all screwed up (oops). They were all in block 1, though.

Palmetto Dunes is on 461.600, conventional repeater. Indigo Run _may_ be on 461.150, conventional; I heard some traffic but pretty broken. We stayed down by Coligny Circle so IR is all the way at the other end of the island.

Hilton Head Plantation has a new UHF system; it may be an LTR trunk. See callsign WQDR823 for frequencies.
 

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I'm interested in hearing more about your research.

I added the TRS that is linked in your post to the database years ago after a visit to Sea Pines. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to visit again since so I haven't been able to update any information about it. Evan has taken a shot at the fleetmap, but I'm not certain we have it correct.

Your post prompted me to look at the licensing information. I looked up the callsign WNGT766 in the RR database, with no luck. I searched for one of those frequencies licensed in SC, with no luck. I then remembered that the RR database excludes licenses under the YX service code, because probably 99% of YX licenses are Nextel.

So I moved to the FCC database and did a Geosearch for licenses in the 851-861MHz range in Beaufort Co sorted by frequency. I found this callsign now licensed to T-B Comm in Savannah. The address is to the attention of Donald Bigbie, no doubt of Bigbie Electronics, another SMR operator in the area.

So I'm curious why you linked this system to Savannah Communications.

Also, if you post the active talkgroups you heard and their suspected use along with the fleetmap you were using, we ought to be able to convert them to the correct fleetmap (maybe).

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I am not familar with indivdual resort frequenices.

Best bet is go to the Beaufort County TRS as listed in Radio Reference.
The resort is located mid Island near the Shelter Cove Mall. Our sheriffs department is the sole police force for the Town of Hilton Head

All Public safety, except private security, is on the Beaufort County system.
Below is the basics for Hilton Head Island

Am am not familar with your radio, but the active handshake freqs are: 857.2125, 858.2125, 859.2125 and 860.2125. Only one is used as a handshake on any given day.
Sheriff Office on HHI uses the following talkgroups 4944, disp; 05456 ops; 04048 car to car.

Hilton Head Fire and Rescue
00432, intial dispatch only; 02160 tac 1; 01584 Tac 2, These two cover most Island events
Hilton Head Airport crash Fire Rescue 04752 (not part of the HHI fire dept)

This will get you most of what you need.

Some of the resorts use a UHF system with an antenna on the Palmeto Dunes Water tower, very near the Disney. I have never tracked that down. Sea Pines plantation is on an 800MHz TRS and also note the Bigby system in RR for more possiblities. I have confirmed a Bigby handshake in the Bluffton area.

All in Radio Reference. In Radio Reference ignore anything that says it belong to a plantation. Most have been taken away and they where only used to contact Beaufort County and not used for security.

Try Crazy Crab, South end Steamers. Hilton Head Deli if you can find it for lunch. 250 to 300 hundred restaurants, you can't go to bad.

If you are going to a time share, to beat traffic try to arrive before noon on a Saturday or after six on a Saturday

Gaffer
 

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My research shows that Bigbie Electronics = Savannah Communications.

If you look up WNGT766 and look at the P.O. Box, it's the same as listed on Savannah Communications' website:
http://www.savannahcomm.com/contactus
http://www.savannahcomm.com/aboutus

Ed, and now his son Don, Bigbie are the principals of Savannah Communications.

I was running block size 1 and it was apparently overlapping, so the size needs to be bigger. It had been so long since I'd fooled with a Type I system that I never realized what the problem was while I was down there, seeing things like a unit calling on 109-0 and being answered on 109-2 and this being split seemed odd at the time but never really clicked.

The "Express Restaurant Delivery" outfit uses the system too. Someone needs to tell them to clean up their language. The FCC never has gone for the F-bomb.

Here's what I had (but everyone note, it's not really correct, just a starting point for future research):

Port Royal Plantation: 101-0
Sea Pines Plantation: 109-0, 109-1, 109-2
Express Restaurant Delivery: 003-1

I don't see in my notes which TG Shipyard was on, but I know they were on this system.

bpalmer is right on the plantation TGs on the Beaufort County system, I never heard anything on them, nor did I see anything logged on them. I left my BCD396T in the room all day with the software on my notebook logging away.
 

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Okay, good call on linking those two SMR operators. Sounds like they're all related.

If I'm looking at my fleetmap spreadsheet correctly,

For Sea Pines Security, 109-0, 109-1, and 109-2 in Size S1 = 100-4 in S3. I guess it's likely since you didn't hear anything in the 108-x that the correct size code could be S-2 for Block 1, which would make it 101-1. Probably either would work.

Port Royal at 101-0 in S1 would be 100-0 in S3 and 100-1 in S2.

Express Restaurant Delivery on 003-1 in S1 (I assume) would be 000-1 in S3 and 000-3 in S2.

Since we have S3 listed as the size for Block 1 in the database, I'll add these as S3 talkgroups for now. Someone else will have to confirm it for us.

Great information, thanks!

Brian
 

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brian said:
So I'm curious why you linked this system to Savannah Communications.

Brian

Bigbie Electronics inc, d/b/a Savannah Communications.........
 
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