Voluisa County Change?

[328Bravo]

I just noticed that decimal 0913, Port Orange PD Dispatch ch1 is now on system A and B. Anyone know if the whole city now on both? And does anyone else noticed any other changes?

 

[jsterba]

I noticed that for Edgewater PD Dispatch 1 was on the B system last week (normally only on A). It was only there for a day, so I figured they temporarily patched it for some reason. I know that they are starting to change for rebanding but that only effects the national mutual aid freqs, not the system freqs.

 

[radiomanNJ1]

I guess you have not taken the opportunity to learn what rebanding is about.
It is not only the NPSPAC 866 channels, it is ALL of the use of 866-868 freqs. by any radio system.
All of the trunked users on 866-868 freqs. will shift down 15 mhz. Single/two channel freqs. are sometimes being moved to clear freqs. in the 851-853 area.

All use of 866-868 freqs. for two way radio as we know it will be moved out of that area.

I noticed that for Edgewater PD Dispatch 1 was on the B system last week (normally only on A). It was only there for a day, so I figured they temporarily patched it for some reason. I know that they are starting to change for rebanding but that only effects the national mutual aid freqs, not the system freqs.

 

[jsterba]

I understand that. The Volusia County systems don't have any frequencies that operate in the area that will be rebanded. They are reprogramming/replacing radios so that they can program in the new NPSPAC frequencies. From what I've been told, if it weren't for those the Volusia systems wouldn't be effected.

I guess you have not taken the opportunity to learn what rebanding is about.
It is not only the NPSPAC 866 channels, it is ALL of the use of 866-868 freqs. by any radio system.
All of the trunked users on 866-868 freqs. will shift down 15 mhz. Single/two channel freqs. are sometimes being moved to clear freqs. in the 851-853 area.

All use of 866-868 freqs. for two way radio as we know it will be moved out of that area.

 

[328Bravo]

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Looks like NSB Primary is also on system A and B now. But it seems that only the primary channels. They some time broadcast on both but sometimes don't. Looks like Fire 3 along with the 4 tac channels that RCC has will stay on A.
I sure hope they don't rebanned the systems, my scanner doesn't support it.

 

[corvettechris]

Does anyone know what the deal is with all the TGs labeled "Patch"? I have heard a lot of PD traffic on them.

 

[jsterba]

Does anyone know what the deal is with all the TGs labeled "Patch"? I have heard a lot of PD traffic on them.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it is when they connect two TG's together. For example, if dispatch patches together EDG1A (Edgewater PD) with AIR ONE, it is actually assigned one of those PATCH channels. On the user's radios, they remain on either EDG1A or AIR ONE, but as far as the scanner sees it, they function as one channel.

 

[328Bravo]

jsterba is right.
Say Edgewater had a car chase that went into New Smyrna, the person bailed in New Smyrna, they call in Air One and help from VSCO they can take Edge 1 patch it with AIR ONE, NSB Primary, and VCSO's TAC 5. When the cops use there radio they dont have to change channels because when they talk its going on every radio that is patched in, making it one channel (1998-2047), the radios automacity switch to the patch channel without them having to mess with there radios when they don't have time too. When its unpatched they go back to normal use. Making it annoying to scanner users because its never known who's patch with who on what patch channel.

 

[radiomanNJ1]

They would not be replacing radios to change the NPSPAC channels only. 866.0125 becomes 851.0125 etc for the rest.

They did create a new FL. statewide mutual aid channel.

I understand that. The Volusia County systems don't have any frequencies that operate in the area that will be rebanded. They are reprogramming/replacing radios so that they can program in the new NPSPAC frequencies. From what I've been told, if it weren't for those the Volusia systems wouldn't be effected.

 

[jsterba]

I heard from someone that they are changing what systems the cities are on and that is why some are on both systems at the moment. Within the next few months, the county is changing all cities on the west side of the county will be on the A system and the cities on the east side will be on the B system. This is a change for Edgewater and New Smyrna as they are currently on the A system. I would imagine certain things like VCSO, EVAC and fire dispatch & tac will be on both as they are now.

 

[trooper890]

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They would not be replacing radios to change the NPSPAC channels only. 866.0125 becomes 851.0125 etc for the rest.

They did create a new FL. statewide mutual aid channel.

Actually yes they would, and they are. The NPSPAC radio spectrum operates at a reduced bandwidth compared to general category channels. Thus, the existing subscriber radios (MPA's, PCS's etc) must be replaced with radios capable of operating within the channel allocations in the rules and the region plan. Newer subscribers that have programmable firmware dont have to be replaced but only reprogrammed.

This does not even account for the other agencies they may communicate with, and systems that use mixed NPSPAC and general category channels.

The Florida mutual aid channel is being replaced with a new frequency, and the old will be within the new NPSPAC band, and will be used by the agencies that move down 15mhz from 866-869.