Walmart earning notoriety with police

[natedawg1604]

Just as I was reading this story during lunch, Lakewood dispatched another WalMart shoplift. I'm sure most of us in the Denver-metro area hear LOTS of these calls to WalMart's, sometimes they stack-up with multiple unrelated shoplifting suspects in custody. I get the impression Police often issue a summons for first time offenders or low $$ amounts taken, if the suspects are cooperative. But, they probably also get a lot of serial offenders, people who bring kiddo's to do the dirty work, people with outstanding warrants etc. Maybe WalMart should be required to hire more off-duty officers.

Walmart earning notoriety with police | 9news.com

 

[gewecke]

Walmarts across the country are supposedly getting DHS funding to install Facial recog software for their cams too, but that's a different thread. :roll: 73, n9zas

 

[W8RMH]

Our Walmart keeps the local cops busy. We are a suburb Columbus (Grove City,OH) and conveniently located at I-71 and I-270 for a quick getaway. It brings in the lifters from the urban areas.

I remember Walmart always had more shoplifters than other stores even when I was still working the streets in the 80s and 90s. I don't think they have much full time loss prevention.

 

[GrayJeep]

It's not just metro Denver.
I hear lots of activity dispatched to Loveland and Ft. Collins Wal-Marts.

Perhaps the store loss prevention folks should be deputized and trained in the spectrum of force?

Maybe even allocate some storage space for holding cells so the county jail could just send a bus over once per day to collect them all?

Perhaps the county should charge Wal-Mart on a per-call basis to encourage WM to do more for themselves?

 

[ecps92]

It is not just WallyMart. Listen to any PD with a Mall, many have even put in Cells/Offices there, to handle the Frequent Fliers, it will never end

Just as I was reading this story during lunch, Lakewood dispatched another WalMart shoplift. I'm sure most of us in the Denver-metro area hear LOTS of these calls to WalMart's, sometimes they stack-up with multiple unrelated shoplifting suspects in custody. I get the impression Police often issue a summons for first time offenders or low $$ amounts taken, if the suspects are cooperative. But, they probably also get a lot of serial offenders, people who bring kiddo's to do the dirty work, people with outstanding warrants etc. Maybe WalMart should be required to hire more off-duty officers.

Walmart earning notoriety with police | 9news.com

 

[kevsoles]

Wal-mart shoplifers

Its not just the Wal-mart stores almost all retail store have a problem with shoplifters, I work in the loss Prevention field for a major DIY store and I can tell you we are calling the poilce on a daily bases for shoplifters most of them are ORC (organized retail crime) pretty much all store have a no chase or touch policy now. so the only option we have left is to call the police ahead of time. and hope they arrive before the thief leaves the store.

 

[902]

I currently reside in a community that posts its stats to crimemapping.com. The local Wally accounts for the highest calls per location in the entire community.

 

[wtp]

an equation

more people = more thieves.

I call it the Wal-Mart syndrome. more people will cause more problems.

 

[gewecke]

more people = more thieves.

I call it the Wal-Mart syndrome. more people will cause more problems.

. More targets too. :twisted: 73, n9zas

 

[KC4RAF]

WTP is correct about his statement;

the more people, the likely crime happens. Just look at the population of the US and the amount of crime. There's other factors that come into play naturally, jobs available, education, etc.

 

[DJ11DLN]

I hear lots of calls the the Super Centers in the area, not so many to the remaining regular old Walmarts. They often will advise the responding officer that Loss Prevention has someone in custody, and I do sometimes see off-duty LE around when I can't avoid going there. I hear calls to other types of stores too but not as often...don't know what it is about Walmart that seems to attract rifraff...but anybody whose been to a Super Center, especially between 9:00 PM and 6:00 AM, will probably agree that some pretty odd/seedy characters seem to congregate there.:lol:

 

[gewecke]

I hear lots of calls the the Super Centers in the area, not so many to the remaining regular old Walmarts. They often will advise the responding officer that Loss Prevention has someone in custody, and I do sometimes see off-duty LE around when I can't avoid going there. I hear calls to other types of stores too but not as often...don't know what it is about Walmart that seems to attract rifraff...but anybody whose been to a Super Center, especially between 9:00 PM and 6:00 AM, will probably agree that some pretty odd/seedy characters seem to congregate there.:lol:

. Oddly enough, those are the only hours I can stand to shop at walmart and only if I have to. I have witnessed shop lifting on a few occasions While there. I think many may pick walmarts because of the empty domes, indicating a cam isn't home in the dome. (NO1HITD) That's been dicovered in text messages, in perps phones in larger cities. Many of their domes are presumed empty, since cctv cable is absent. 73, n9zas

 

[MtnBiker2005]

This police officer shot the walmart accused shoplifter after fleeing in her jeep.
Police dashcam shows Walmart shoplifter shot trying to flee | Daily Mail Online

 

[gewecke]

This police officer shot the walmart accused shoplifter after fleeing in her jeep.
Police dashcam shows Walmart shoplifter shot trying to flee | Daily Mail Online

Damn ... talk about police brutality! :lol: I know a people greeter who stuck his foot out as the perp ran past ... I thought that was bad. 73, n9zas

 

[natedawg1604]

It's not just metro Denver.
I hear lots of activity dispatched to Loveland and Ft. Collins Wal-Marts.

Perhaps the store loss prevention folks should be deputized and trained in the spectrum of force?

Maybe even allocate some storage space for holding cells so the county jail could just send a bus over once per day to collect them all?

Perhaps the county should charge Wal-Mart on a per-call basis to encourage WM to do more for themselves?

I agree with your sentiments. However, AFAIK store security officers are making citizens arrest whenever they detain shoplifters (and nothing more), which necessarily mandates calling the police and having them take over as soon as possible. The longer store security detain people without police intervention (i.e. for many hours), the more they expose themselves to civil liability, excessive force claims, medical neglect claims, etc. And, in my view they SHOULD bear the full risk attendant with civil tort claims, if they don't promptly turn detained suspects over to police as soon as they possibly can.

I would not be comfortable giving anyone formal arrest/detention authority (i.e. beyond the limited common-law citizens arrest powers), if they don't directly report to supervisors in an official law enforcement agency overseen by elected or appointed officials.

 

[JoeyC]

This police officer shot the walmart accused shoplifter after fleeing in her jeep.
Police dashcam shows Walmart shoplifter shot trying to flee | Daily Mail Online

and the shooting had nothing to do with the fact that she was a Walmart shoplifting suspect.

 

[GrayJeep]

I would not be comfortable giving anyone formal arrest/detention authority (i.e. beyond the limited common-law citizens arrest powers), if they don't directly report to supervisors in an official law enforcement agency overseen by elected or appointed officials.

I don't disagree. Maybe what I'm thinking of is creating a special branch office of the local law enforcement agency complete with holding cells and full capability officers - paid for by WalMart.

 

[gewecke]

I don't disagree. Maybe what I'm thinking of is creating a special branch office of the local law enforcement agency complete with holding cells and full capability officers - paid for by WalMart.

. No, the idea is to get RID of walmarts, not keep them ( unless they start selling American made goods). :lol: 73, n9zas

 

[DJ11DLN]

. No, the idea is to get RID of walmarts, not keep them ( unless they start selling American made goods). :lol: 73, n9zas

Good luck with that, LOL.:lol:

 

[KK4JUG]

. No, the idea is to get RID of walmarts, not keep them ( unless they start selling American made goods). :lol: 73, n9zas

I love that idea but it'll never happen. Almost no consumer electronics are made in this country anymore. I think Warner electronics was the last company to make TVs in this country. They made them for Sears. If you look at the label in your clothes, you'll find Bangladesh, Viet Nam, El Salvador and on and on. But almost no clothes are made in this country. I bought a pair of shorts one time that were made in Mongolia.

I remember when Motorola portables were made in Malaysia. I don't know where they put them together now.

I'd love to see someone do something about it but it's probably reached the point of no return.