Im almost willing to bet based on how many midlothian has that Waxahachie talk groups run from 7736 to 7749 just need them to use them lol
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I was thinking along the same lines. That's pretty common in the new systems, each agency (PD, FD, public works, whatever) has a range of talkgroup IDs available for their use, and if it's a new one between two known TGIDs for a city (or agency), odds are the one in the middle will be for the same entity.
I also caught maybe six seconds of audio from TGID 7742, but nothing that I could use to determine the usage.
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Can someone tell me the specific frequency to listen to Waxahachie PD? I have put in the control frequency for Ellis county found under Midlothian, and I have entered the talk group 7736. I have been unable to hear anything, however. Is there a different frequency for Waxhachie?
Waxahachie's talk groups, Phase II, are indeed on the FW Regional system, as you cited. However, you won't hear these talk groups without a Phase II scanner unless there is an online feed. Based on what I am seeing, none of the PD/FD talk groups are encrypted or partially encrypted.
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thanks for responding. I have the correct scanner but I'm not sure if I have the correct frequency.
These are the Midlothian listed channels
773.18125 is the main control channel.
I use SDR radios on a computer.
The way I understand it is you key in the control and it finds the rest. However I dont have an actual P25 scanner to be sure. I do have a zello channel setup streaming Waxahachie police, fire and animal control (and as I find Waxahachie specific channels those as well). I try to keep it running 24/7 but it may go down here and there(power outages, network problems etc)
| 769.83125 | 770.50625 | 771.13125a | 771.88125a | 772.23125a | 773.15125 | 773.18125c |
I use SDR radios on a computer.
The way I understand it is you key in the control and it finds the rest. However I dont have an actual P25 scanner to be sure. I do have a zello channel setup streaming Waxahachie police, fire and animal control (and as I find Waxahachie specific channels those as well). I try to keep it running 24/7 but it may go down here and there(power outages, network problems etc)
I found this. I have the gear for SDR, but it is on my long bucket list.
Tutorial on Setting up OP25 for P25 Phase 2 Digital Voice Decoding
Tutorial on Setting up OP25 for P25 Phase 2 Digital Voice Decoding
I use 3 sdr's, SDRTRUNK very easy setup, and virtual audio cable both freeware. But I also use windows not linux for it
What scanner are you using?
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Whistler 1040
Unfortunately, that scanner will not work if you are trying to hear Waxahachie & the other users in Ellis County. They are using P25 Phase II. Your WS1040 can do digital, but only P25 Phase I. It cannot be upgraded for Phase II since it does not have the internal hardware needed.
Up until Waxahachie & Ellis County moved to join FWRRS. Midlothian & Red Oak were using P25 Phase I. Part of the agreement for Waxahachie & the county to join was to upgrade to P25 Phase II, and add 3 additional sites.
In the Whistler line, you would need one of these:
WS1080 and WS1088. These are discontinued but you may find one at a dealer or a good condition previously owned (used) scanner. These are portable scanners, like your WS1040.
WS1095 and WS1098. These are also discontinued, but, again, may still be found. These are base/mobile scanners.
The current Whistler models, TRX-1 (handheld) and TRX-2 (base/mobile) are capable of monitoring the system.
In the Uniden line, these are your choices:
Handhelds: BCD325P2, BCD436HP, and SDS100.
Base/mobile: BCD996P2, BCD536HP, and SDS200.
The HP-2 is also capable of Phase II.
The unknown factor here is simulcast. Depending on your location, Simulcast distortion may hamper your monitoring unless you are using one of the SDS scanners. (That also applies to the Whistler scanners; they are also vulnerable to simulcast.)
One of the Unication pagers can handle simulcast, but you are limited in what you can monitor at the same time.
The Blue Tail receiver would work for simulcast, but you would not be able to monitor the cities & VFDs that do not move to FWRRS.
Your other option would be to buy a couple of the SDR dongles & use one of the software programs for them. But that requires the use of a computer along with the dongles, so it's not a portable solution.
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I am seeing a 7772 show up and the dispatch seems to be county. Have you heard or do you know if that is possibly ellis county sheriff switching to FWRRS
I'm also seeing quite a bit of activity on 7777, which I think also may be Ellis County. I've been collecting recordings on these two, plus so far today, I've logged 26 hits on 7773. I have a session running, recording & logging. I'm going to let it run several days, & hoping I can get enough recorded radio traffic that will help resolve exactly what each TGID is used for, like which is dispatch, which may be a Tac or Talk, etc. Heard a couple location references last week, on 7777, that implied it was S.O. units talking, but it was not a straight "dispatch" conversation. Unfortunately, my external antenna has been down for a while, so I don't have reliable reception on the S.O.'s Vhf frequencies to see if they are doing any simulcasting on the old system, patched to the FWRRS system. I know when Waxahachie first moved to ETMC years ago, and later when they dropped off ETMC, but instead started using 800 MHz conventional, they were mostly simulcasting the 800MHz on their old Vhf-high channels, I suppose for interop with the other Ellis County cities that they work with a lot, such as Red Oak & Midlothian (before those two moved to FWRRS), as well as the S.O..
So far, nothing that (to me) relates to Ennis or Palmer, which have both indicated their intention to switch as well, though I have not seen specific time frames mentioned in their meeting minutes.
I haven't seen 7777 or 7773. I am running sdr trunk and when the 7772 (which is currently unknown) keyed up the street they said threw me off. I think I heard or saw ennis was a year out. I haven't heard anything for palmer. Im guessing AMR will switch once the whole area switches. The one tonight was sugar ridge road (its bristol area which I think is county / I'm not sure how far palmer goes out)
Yeah
The conversation I heard on 7777 last week mentioned "Business 287 in Sardis", so I took that to indicate it was the Sheriffs deputies, since if it had been Waxahachie, they likely would be on their "own" talkgroup.
I have no idea whether or not Ferris will 'join the party' along with Ennis, Palmer, & the county. Went through a year's worth of their council meeting agendas and saw nothing that hinted at a change. But they post as little info as possible, at least what I've seen so far, so its hard to tell what their intent is.
I suspect you're correct on AMR. Whether or not they fully move their dispatch from their conventional channel (159.3675, licensed for a Palmer location), you gotta figure that they'll pop up on a TGID to be able to talk to the agencies that requested their response.
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waxahachie PD is dispatching from TAC Ch2 for the last week or so.
as stated above, TG's 7777, 7775, 7773, 7772, and 7742 are showing up here, sw of town.
may very well be SO units showing up with new radios.
as stated above, TG's 7777, 7775, 7773, 7772, and 7742 are showing up here, sw of town.
may very well be SO units showing up with new radios.
Do you know why the switch from 7736 to 7737 on Wax PD? What kind of traffic came across on 7742? So far best I can tell the 7772-7777 is ECSO. I would bet 7742 is part of the Wax PD allotment
Saw another pop in 7782 but waxahachie traffic came at the same time so its hard to tell whats what
I've just gone over the logs for the past couple of days.
I think 7782 will be Ellis County Public Works. Lot of radio tests. One call from "Ellis County Precinct 2", one of the commissioners road & bridge district.
7772
Appears to be Ellis County S.O. Primary (Dispatch)
This is mostly in the clear, but 6 transmissions out of 339 logged may have been encrypted.
7773
Based on radio traffic recorded, Ellis County Animal Control.
Calls for loose dogs, livestock, dog bites
Will set up logging again up to, at least, this weekend.
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