qlajlu
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I just copied the UCAN techs on TG 4096 getting ready to "roll the site." They are talking about it happening at 10 o'clock pm tonight.
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Weber Site Reband In Progress
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qlajlu
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They are getting things lined up to make the change at 10 pm. By that time, they will have half of the frequencies changed and then they will "roll" the system and finish the remaining frequencies after that.
I am getting a good copy of the UCAN techs affiliating with Site 003 Salt Lake County on TG 4096.
I am getting a good copy of the UCAN techs affiliating with Site 003 Salt Lake County on TG 4096.
Hmm, so I wonder if they did something earlier that made me assume they were doing some reband stuff this morning?
I through my scanner on my compy and hook up unitrunker to run overnight!
Thanks for keeping an ear out qlajlu
I through my scanner on my compy and hook up unitrunker to run overnight!
Thanks for keeping an ear out qlajlu
qlajlu
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Yeah, I was kinda wondering that, too. In fact, I really tossed it around in my mind whether to start a new thread on it or not after your thread, but with all the hoopla from the other times they rebanded sites I figured a new thread would be best. I really didn't do it to take the wind out of your sails, shootinnews, considering our history.
On a further note, they are only doing the odd numbered channels right now and then they will do the even numbered ones after rolling to the new CC. It occurred to me that it is this process that gave us a false positive on the CC for Davis County at first. They changed it on the second day to what we thought it should be.
The new CC on Site 001 Weber County should be 853.9875 MHz when they are done with an alternate at 853.9625 MHz, using the 15 MHz lower rule.
Unless they throw a curve ball at us, legacy trunk-tracking scanners will lose five channels for trunking, but all will be able to be scanned as conventional frequencies.
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gadgetmikey
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It appears as though they are switching IR site #5 on Reservoir Hill over to the Ogden Simo. Listening to them doing the rebanding they have a tech on Reservoir Hill and the FCC license for Ogden now includes it.
qlajlu
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It's 7:20 pm and one of the UCAN techs is locked up! Seriously, he is locked in at the site they are calling "Rocky Point." Apparently his key card will not unlock the gate and he is inside. According to other techs on the air with him, they have pretty much all had trouble with that lock. He might be there all night. :lol:
todd_18
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Old CC is now off line. Can't get anything on 853.9875 or 859.9625
qlajlu
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Right now they are using the old Alt CC: 868.9625 MHz
qlajlu
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CC Now 853.9875 MHz
12:15 am the techs "rolled" Weber Simo. Control Channel now located at 853.9875 MHz.
They have a lot of work yet to do. Half way through this they ran into a wall. Nextel was causing interference with one of the transmitters. You should have heard the techs! "I thought this whole exercise was for them. Why haven't they vacated this band?!" He was NOT happy. UCAN supervisor got Nextel supervisor out of bed. Was good listening.
12:15 am the techs "rolled" Weber Simo. Control Channel now located at 853.9875 MHz.
They have a lot of work yet to do. Half way through this they ran into a wall. Nextel was causing interference with one of the transmitters. You should have heard the techs! "I thought this whole exercise was for them. Why haven't they vacated this band?!" He was NOT happy. UCAN supervisor got Nextel supervisor out of bed. Was good listening.
Sounds like great midnight entertainment, Brent. Maybe they should reband more often. :lol:
bneilson
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qlajlu that is great... I wish I was listening...
I have a family member that works for Nextel I will have to give them a call and see if they can get the inside poop. They work with the engineering guys all the time so...
This also means that rebanding is done for UCAN.
I have a family member that works for Nextel I will have to give them a call and see if they can get the inside poop. They work with the engineering guys all the time so...
This also means that rebanding is done for UCAN.
qlajlu
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Still need someone to run UniTrunker to verify the new frequencies, but, yeah, this has been Custer's Last Stand. Actually, after all the thrashing we have done over the years leading up to this time, it has been pretty painless for most of us I'd say. We will have many people coming out of the woodwork over the next little while wondering why they can't hear some things anything more, like what happened when Davis Simo changed over.
todd_18
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Now that I'm sitting here having with drawls because my pro-164 no longer works.....
What is the "MOT Custom Trunking Table" in Win97 for and is there any hope that setting something like the Step in this table will help.
What is the "MOT Custom Trunking Table" in Win97 for and is there any hope that setting something like the Step in this table will help.
It appears the Custom Trunking Table in Win97 works only for UHF trunking, but you might as well give it a try and put in the 800 MHz custom tables discussed elsewhere in this forum. You never know...
There has been a lot of 'inadequate' information put out about the Pro-164. It started with the posts that said the Pro-164 and GRE PSR-300 would be totally compatable with the 1.04 firmware update. Someone in Tooele Co said their PSR-300 worked fine on rebanding after programming it with ARC-300 software. So I programmed a Pro-164 with ARC-300 for a friend and it "appeared" to work on SL Simo, but turns out it does not. So I am as much to blame as anyone for perpetrating the wrong information and I owe an apology to everyone who took my advice. I still don't know for fact the Tooele PSR-300 works properly.
There is good news: Radio Shack will have a rebanding update for this scanner - at some point - no date has been announced yet. So... yes the 164 is reband capable, but the firmware has to be flashed.
There has been a lot of 'inadequate' information put out about the Pro-164. It started with the posts that said the Pro-164 and GRE PSR-300 would be totally compatable with the 1.04 firmware update. Someone in Tooele Co said their PSR-300 worked fine on rebanding after programming it with ARC-300 software. So I programmed a Pro-164 with ARC-300 for a friend and it "appeared" to work on SL Simo, but turns out it does not. So I am as much to blame as anyone for perpetrating the wrong information and I owe an apology to everyone who took my advice. I still don't know for fact the Tooele PSR-300 works properly.
There is good news: Radio Shack will have a rebanding update for this scanner - at some point - no date has been announced yet. So... yes the 164 is reband capable, but the firmware has to be flashed.
dpalmer2508
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So, are we looking for a firmware update greater than the 1.04, which had a Release date of October 8, 2008? or is 1.04 the one we need? Like you, I am very confused. I was going to purchase this scanner but now I don't know. I have loaded copies of both WIN97 and ARC300 from BuTel on my vista machine just to be familiar with how they work so when I get a Pro-164 I will have become familiar with each. Having used WIN95 extensively, I am leaning to WIN97.
The ARC300 has a rebanding Utility that allows you to put in a Start Frequency and Stop Frequency, and then an offset, and then asked you if you want it applied to the current bank or all banks. The defaults is shows are 866.00 for Start and 869.00 for Stop and a -15 for the offset. So, I just assume that when ever the old band plan points to a LCN that points to a freq in that range, it will drop it 15 mhz on the fly? Sounds like a fix, but not necessarily an efficient one. But does it work if the correct start, stop, and offset numbers are put in for the UCAN system?
WIN97 has an option for a MOT Custom Trunking Table, but the defaults are for UHF. It has inputs for BASE Freq, Offset, and Step, with room for three rows of data for each. I don't run any form of Trunker or computerized decoding, but the custom band plans that I have seen in other threads have 7 or 8 rows of data for the different LCN ranges. I am not sure that these three rows would be enough to accomplish what was needed.
Since I have only secured $200.00 from my boss/wife for the purchase of a new scanner, I am tempted to wait, but the sales price on the Pro-164 won't go on forever.
qlajlu
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I'm not going to wade in on the scanner itself since I know nothing about it, but the band plans you have seen especially in this post are at most seven lines. The most critical lines in the first table are the first three and in the second table the first two lines.dpalmer2508 said:
bchris
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dpalmer2508,
It sounds to me like the rebanding utility in ARC300 would just save you having to subtract 15 from all the freqs and type them back in. I dont think it could convert anything 'on the fly'. Just my thoughts.
I really think you only need the first 2 lines of the tables in qlajlu's post now that rebanding is done.
Just to be sure, I have removed the other lines from most of the sites in my PSR-500 and have noticed no change in behaviour. I will report if I see anything to the contrary.
-bc
qlajlu
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We still need someone to run UniTrunker on Site 001 Weber County to verify frequencies!
I'm really amazed. When every other site was rebanded we had three or ten people posting UniTrunker readouts on the frequencies within 24 hours and there has not been even one with this site yet.
C'mon guys. We need to get the Db updated!
I'm really amazed. When every other site was rebanded we had three or ten people posting UniTrunker readouts on the frequencies within 24 hours and there has not been even one with this site yet.
C'mon guys. We need to get the Db updated!
ww7y
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I have a very poor copy on the Weber Simo, probably from being tucked up against the mountains. I will try tomorrow, and if I can get a decent signal and run it.
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