John_M
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There has to be something. Its either that or it's the best scanner inovation
since Digital Trunking.
since Digital Trunking.
What are the drawbacks to Uniden's dynamic memory?
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I doubt there are any drawbacks.
I had an AOR 2515 scanner back in 1988 that had something very similar to dynamic banks (of course that was long before trunk scanners). Basically, you just filled up the 100 possible banks with up to 20 frequencies each. There were no channel numbers. It was highly versatile. Unfortunately, that unit had about a dozen other flaws and shortcomings, so I eventually sent it back for a full refund. You know a company has made a piece of junk if after three months they'll fully refund anyone's money who asks for it!
I'm surprised it has taken this long for dynamic bank storage to surface! I would love it if my PRO-95 had that. I use Bank 0 for only my local village comms... Three whole channels used out of 100. But, that configuration works best for me.
I had an AOR 2515 scanner back in 1988 that had something very similar to dynamic banks (of course that was long before trunk scanners). Basically, you just filled up the 100 possible banks with up to 20 frequencies each. There were no channel numbers. It was highly versatile. Unfortunately, that unit had about a dozen other flaws and shortcomings, so I eventually sent it back for a full refund. You know a company has made a piece of junk if after three months they'll fully refund anyone's money who asks for it!
I'm surprised it has taken this long for dynamic bank storage to surface! I would love it if my PRO-95 had that. I use Bank 0 for only my local village comms... Three whole channels used out of 100. But, that configuration works best for me.
safetyobc
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I have found no drawbacks. I love this new memory setup. I want to buy a mobile scanner for my truck but I just can't force myself back into banks and channels. There is only one thing I would take for my 246T..................and that is a BCD396T which I plan to get when available! 
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PhilJSmith67 said:
John_M
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I am not a mobile user and I don't have a Pro-2096 but it took 10 keystrokes to call up another V-Folder on my Pro-96. For mobile users they care about how easy it is to call up another V-Folder. They don't want to stop and pull over to call up another folder. How easy would this be with a 246T or 396T? Do quick keys come into play?
br0adband
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I'd say there are no drawbacks to the dynamic memory allocation; however, there are drawbacks to how it's implemented and here's why.
People are soooooo used to using the bank/channels model ("20 banks of 50 channels each," "10 banks of 100 channels each") that when they get their hands on the 246T - and all future Uniden products I hope - they're dead in the water. I admit that was me when I got my 246T just over a month ago. Dead in the water for about 2 hours, almost frustrated to a point where I wanted to box it up and take it back for a full refund.
But don't do that. A little time, a little effort and some questions will get you on the path and then you'll realize the 246T is the best thing to happen to our hobby since the moment that scanners capable of trunk tracking were introduced.
It's that important, a new paradigm in our hobby. Hop on board and enjoy the ride.
Paul
People are soooooo used to using the bank/channels model ("20 banks of 50 channels each," "10 banks of 100 channels each") that when they get their hands on the 246T - and all future Uniden products I hope - they're dead in the water. I admit that was me when I got my 246T just over a month ago. Dead in the water for about 2 hours, almost frustrated to a point where I wanted to box it up and take it back for a full refund.
But don't do that. A little time, a little effort and some questions will get you on the path and then you'll realize the 246T is the best thing to happen to our hobby since the moment that scanners capable of trunk tracking were introduced.
It's that important, a new paradigm in our hobby. Hop on board and enjoy the ride.
Paul
safetyobc
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Yeah you could use the quick keys but the 246T only has 10. The 396 will have 100 qk keys and I think if I remember the manual correctly all you have to do for numbers over the 0 - 9 is use the . (decimal) then push the number quick key(s) which could still be done relatively easy with one hand........at least it seems it would be easy enough.
The drawback to the 246t isn't in the memory it is in the quick keys. 10 just isn't enough. I find myself grouping similar areas to it's individual keys. I have 3 to 8 systems on each quick key. The 396 will solve this drawback for me!
The drawback to the 246t isn't in the memory it is in the quick keys. 10 just isn't enough. I find myself grouping similar areas to it's individual keys. I have 3 to 8 systems on each quick key. The 396 will solve this drawback for me!
br0adband
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JMedley_1 said:
You can copy entire groups or entire systems if needed to create new ones with a few keys and a few twists of the scroll knob. Pretty simple stuff.
Paul
As I said in another post, the dynamic memory is the greatest thing since sex :lol:
John_M
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I already have my BCD396T ordered. The salesman at Hamstation his name is Jeff and he had a beta model in front of him and was playing with it when I talked to him and he said that I will like mine. :lol:
John_M
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Dubbin said:
Damn.
Al42
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Only if you can remember it.Thayne said:Conversely, dynamic sex is the greatest thing since memory
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Dubbin said:
Thayne said:
Al42 said:
:shock:
br0adband
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Voyager:
That is an excellent point. I wondered about that myself at one time, being very irritated that if I chose to monitor a specific TG/channel and decided I wanted to skip to the very next TG/channel in the system as I have them programmed in, as soon as I twist the knob it resets back to the control channel(s) I have programmed for that system.
I was hoping that a firmware update might be able to address this situation but so far Uniden has failed to respond to my properly sent email as well as a webform I sent in some time ago.
To illustrate this situation, here's an example.
Portsmouth (system)
Police, Fire/EMS, and City Services (groups)
The Police group has 9 TGs in it, in this order:
Police Primary
Police 2
TAC 3
TAC 4
TAC 5/Detective
TAC 8/Supervisor
Police Mutual
Sheriff
Narcotics/Swat
If I hear something on the TAC 5/Detective TG and I hit Hold to stop scanning and monitor that group, and someone on channel says, "Switch to TAC 8" I would think that twisting the knob clockwise would simply scroll me forward to the next programmed TG which is TAC 8/Supervisor.
But that's not the case.
As soon as I twist the knob (either direction) the scanner jumps all the way back to 4 control channels I have programmed into the Portsmouth system and then stops there listing one of the frequencies.
I hope this can be addressed to provide at least some basic random access to the TGs we have programmed in, but I'm not sure if it can be done - making the current TG/channel on Hold the starting point of an ascending or descending step by the twist of the knob.
This might not seem to be such a big deal in the first group I'm scanning or listening to. But consider my Virginia Beach system: it has 9 groups with 112 TGs in it. That's a considerable amount of TGs to have to twist through to get to the one I want.
It would be nice to add some form of accessing specific TGs or channels quickly, but as Voyager said, for now we'll have to continue using the menu system to do it.
For all the 246T offers, this one thing is my personal nitpick about it.
Paul
EDITED because I screwed the pooch and made a booboo that I didn't even see when Voyager was trying to point it out to me. Bleh, sometimes... the noggin' just ain't a co'operatin' no mo... sheesh
That is an excellent point. I wondered about that myself at one time, being very irritated that if I chose to monitor a specific TG/channel and decided I wanted to skip to the very next TG/channel in the system as I have them programmed in, as soon as I twist the knob it resets back to the control channel(s) I have programmed for that system.
I was hoping that a firmware update might be able to address this situation but so far Uniden has failed to respond to my properly sent email as well as a webform I sent in some time ago.
To illustrate this situation, here's an example.
Portsmouth (system)
Police, Fire/EMS, and City Services (groups)
The Police group has 9 TGs in it, in this order:
Police Primary
Police 2
TAC 3
TAC 4
TAC 5/Detective
TAC 8/Supervisor
Police Mutual
Sheriff
Narcotics/Swat
If I hear something on the TAC 5/Detective TG and I hit Hold to stop scanning and monitor that group, and someone on channel says, "Switch to TAC 8" I would think that twisting the knob clockwise would simply scroll me forward to the next programmed TG which is TAC 8/Supervisor.
But that's not the case.
As soon as I twist the knob (either direction) the scanner jumps all the way back to 4 control channels I have programmed into the Portsmouth system and then stops there listing one of the frequencies.
I hope this can be addressed to provide at least some basic random access to the TGs we have programmed in, but I'm not sure if it can be done - making the current TG/channel on Hold the starting point of an ascending or descending step by the twist of the knob.
This might not seem to be such a big deal in the first group I'm scanning or listening to. But consider my Virginia Beach system: it has 9 groups with 112 TGs in it. That's a considerable amount of TGs to have to twist through to get to the one I want.
It would be nice to add some form of accessing specific TGs or channels quickly, but as Voyager said, for now we'll have to continue using the menu system to do it.
For all the 246T offers, this one thing is my personal nitpick about it.
Paul
EDITED because I screwed the pooch and made a booboo that I didn't even see when Voyager was trying to point it out to me. Bleh, sometimes... the noggin' just ain't a co'operatin' no mo... sheesh
br0adband said:
I think you meant TAC5/Detective in your example, but I never noticed that behavior. Now that you've posted it here, I bet UPMan may have something to say about it.
Are you saying it does that when TAC5/Detective is ACTIVE, or when it's not active? I can see it doing it when it is active since it really is going back four channels to a voice channel to hear the talkgroup.
Also, how did you get to TAC5 to start with? Via HOLD or via the recall menu?
Maybe we should have a poll to see if it's really a problem. :wink:
Joe M.
Holding on a TG then turning the knob clockwise to the next TG works just fine for me.br0adband said:
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Dubbin:
Do you have your TRS set for Control Ch Only? I do, maybe that has something to do with it. I'll test it later.
Voyager:
No, the example I provided is the correct one. Whenever I'm holding on any TG (regardless of how I get to holding on it), if I turn the knob clockwise I would hope it will simply step through the TGs beginning with the very next one I have programmed in sequence, but it doesn't.
If I'm holding on Police Primary (the first TG in the group) and I turn the knob clockwise it should change to Police 2 but it doesn't - it shows one of the control channel frequencies and then I have to keep turning the knob to get back to where I started from. Haven't been able to figure out why it's doing that.
Bleh.
Paul
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Nope, just tested it with and without using Control Ch Only and it has no effect, it still jumps back to the control channels and displays a frequency. Hmmm... wish I could figure this out.
Do you have your TRS set for Control Ch Only? I do, maybe that has something to do with it. I'll test it later.
Voyager:
No, the example I provided is the correct one. Whenever I'm holding on any TG (regardless of how I get to holding on it), if I turn the knob clockwise I would hope it will simply step through the TGs beginning with the very next one I have programmed in sequence, but it doesn't.
If I'm holding on Police Primary (the first TG in the group) and I turn the knob clockwise it should change to Police 2 but it doesn't - it shows one of the control channel frequencies and then I have to keep turning the knob to get back to where I started from. Haven't been able to figure out why it's doing that.
Bleh.
Paul
EDITED to say...
Nope, just tested it with and without using Control Ch Only and it has no effect, it still jumps back to the control channels and displays a frequency. Hmmm... wish I could figure this out.
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