Agreed on average citizen and limited knowledge. People see an antenna and may think it is for a C.B. radio.
Many years ago my director referred to my 800MHz radio as a "CB". I knew what he meant, but even to an IT guy, there was zero difference to him between a CB, a trunked radio system, or a ham radio. It was just a means to get voice from one place to the other.
Didn't invalidate me or my job. It was just a generalized term he used and it made sense to him. Didn't offend me in the least. I already knew he had zero knowledge of radio systems, but that lack of knowledge didn't invalidate him, either.
I do not disagree with agencies having their own radio people with plenty of qualified training. That too does not invalidate the role amateur radio operators can provide, or does it?
It would not/should not have any impact at all on amateur radio. If a ham is offended by the lack of need for their services, that's a personal issue. Amateur radio has it's place. It may not be on the front lines, but it can still have a role. That role isn't 'first responder' or 'dispatcher' or anything else.
On the contrary, some of the hams that like to insist that they are some form of emergency communicator or first responder shows a lack of knowledge about what those jobs are. I've sat in dispatch while they've worked serious medical calls, protests and other situations. Watching a professional 911 dispatcher give CPR directions over the phone to someone, or handling radio traffic and phone traffic at the same time all while typing on the CAD terminal is way beyond the skills I see most amateur radio operators having.
I'm a ham and I'm a career radio guy. I work closely with our PD and our dispatchers. Never at any point would I assume I could do their jobs. I think most professional first responders or dispatchers would snicker at some of the stuff amateurs carry on about.
That was the next part of my earlier question with regards to manpower and cost. Can a public event or charity coordinator call up the mayor and say, hey we need eight radio people to man these particular locations during our event? Someone somewhere would shoot that down.
We've done that at work, and done several times a year. But, yeah, for most charity events, theres often rules about using taxpayer resources for that sort of stuff. Doesn't mean it cannot happen, but it's hard to do.
You noted it would be filled by other resources, but exactly what? Until we get the magical RF terrain buster here in California, do you think these events should invest or share the cost of multiple Garmin devices like you and I have? I guess that could handle the "emergency" aspect. Amateurs could still help with the regular non emergency traffic.
Well, that would depend on the event.
Used to be REACT did a lot of that stuff on CB and/or GMRS. They've mostly disappeared now. Back in the 70's/80's, there were CB clubs that offered these sorts of services.
Amateur radio can absolutely fill that role now, and do it quite well.
For emergencies or planned large events, most agencies have simplex channels they can use, or other repeated channels, or talk groups on a trunked system.
Around me, most agencies have a few satellite phones.
And then there's all the state systems.
And portable systems.
I'm not saying amateur radio doesn't have a role anymore. They do, but the days of an agency only having single channel radios, or one crappy repeater are mostly gone. When I've seen amateurs put to use in disasters or large events, they are usually not in an emergency role. They are usually handling routine traffic that needs to be kept off the public safety channels.
There are a lot of good resources out there, but unfortunately many agencies don't know about them.
And where I work, in 23 years I've been there, including fiber cuts, radio outages, disasters, fires, protests, etc, amateur radio operators have never been called in to assist in communications. Maybe some day we'll need it, but so far we haven't. We've got a lot of resources available, and a lot of people that can assist getting operations switched over.