What's going on in PG????

[ssinglet]

FD Radio ID's

As of last night the radio ID's for the units are showing 0 for the fire dept on the P25 system, dispatch is reporting 1000211

Steve

 

[troymail]

As of last night the radio ID's for the units are showing 0 for the fire dept on the P25 system, dispatch is reporting 1000211

Steve

I've been capturing radio IDs from fire units -- so far I've seen about 6 "dispatch" related IDs (10002xx) and 17 "unit" IDs (2520xxx) but a majority are coming up as "0" ..

 

[Dank]

PGFD channels 9 and 10 were from the old Montgomery County PD, Silver Spring district.

For what it is worth I will add that Montgomery County PD picked up 3 freqs I believe when AA Co went to 800. Most notable was Ch 10 494.4625MHz used by the SAT units. Almost all of these comms were in the clear and on a repeater. A good reason to now be on a digital system. The other two were 490.???? referred to as Tac 11 or Tac 12.

 

[ka3jjz]

There's a posting on Scan-DC that says that the transition to the new command center in Bowie has been completed....best regards..Mike

 

[The_B_Chief]

Station Alerting is now on 155.790 CSQ and it sounds like the same quick call tones as was on 46.120.
Station Vocal is on 155.685 PL 156.7. This is patched to the TRS and the TRS is still patched to the UHF Channel 1. Both frequencies are active as of yesterday. Also 46.120 is no longer active.

New radios seem to be working really well. Have about half of the county suppression units switched over

 

[ka3jjz]

Thanks Chief. I'll put in a ticket to update the database best regards..Mike

 

[The_B_Chief]

No sweat......and yes i'm upset that 46.120 is no more haha!!

 

[ka3jjz]

I'm not sure we can infer anything from this but it seems that the analog channel number and the talkgroup zones seem to coincide. For example I heard a dispatcher say to respond on channel 2, talkgroup 8 alpha 2. Another time it was channel 7, talkgroup 8 charlie 7. Notice that the channel number and the last digit of the talkgroup mentioned seem to always match

best regards..Mike

 

[ResQguy]

I'm not sure we can infer anything from this but it seems that the analog channel number and the talkgroup zones seem to coincide. For example I heard a dispatcher say to respond on channel 2, talkgroup 8 alpha 2. Another time it was channel 7, talkgroup 8 charlie 7. Notice that the channel number and the last digit of the talkgroup mentioned seem to always match

best regards..Mike

This was intentional to ease people into the new system. When the UHF goes away, the assignments will change based on needs.

 

[ka3jjz]

I see someone marked on the database that fire/ems has moved over to the new system...

Prince George's County, Maryland (MD) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

However to me at least this is not yet true. I hear them on their old 490 mhz system, so I assume they're simulcasting. Before I put in a ticket to correct this, when is the cutover thought to be happening? I'd hate to put in a ticket, only to have the cutover happen the next week...

And any word about the rest of the towns moving over to the trunk as yet? And is it time to mark the cops stuff that has moved 'deprecated'?

best regards..Mike

 

[ResQguy]

They have been using it for a while now on mobiles. Once your new radio is in, you use it. Portables are soon to arrive. That is why they announce "respond on channel 2, talkgroup 8C2" etc. That way the users of either radio know what to switch to. All the old channels have been patched to their counterparts on the new system. It would be really nice if the HomePatrol database would include this system...

 

[HarryWilly]

Won't work with home patrol unless the TGs revert. I'll tell you because MoCo is starting all APX 6000/7000 on Monday you will need to wait for other counties to Mark up but I assume at least dispatch will revert to FDMA as people outside of PG will want to listen to dispatch. Now what I want to know is how they expect volunteers to go from paying a couple hundred to a couple thousand for radios.

System sounds great though on an APX mobile.

 

[ResQguy]

Won't work with home patrol unless the TGs revert. I'll tell you because MoCo is starting all APX 6000/7000 on Monday you will need to wait for other counties to Mark up but I assume at least dispatch will revert to FDMA as people outside of PG will want to listen to dispatch. Now what I want to know is how they expect volunteers to go from paying a couple hundred to a couple thousand for radios.

System sounds great though on an APX mobile.

I'm well aware of that, but WHEN it is in FDMA the HP1 works GREAT on PG. I added the system manually thru ARC Sentinel. Just because sometimes it's in TDMA shouldn't restrict the database from containing it.

Also, I was told that the county is providing a radio per riding position up to a certain total (not sure what per unit). If you want to ride 9 people on the pumper, then you can't really expect them to provide $45,000 of radios so half your crew can stand around outside, right? Put the extra people on the second piece and use those radios instead! :evil:

 

[HarryWilly]

Well they provided a couple before but as some of the Chiefs preach, have your own radio so that it works when you need it.

As far as staffing, the county is setup to staff stations, not apparatus like Montgomery does. But on a fire I'd rather have a truck from the second due fully loaded than a truck and wagon from the same station at barely minimum staffing. Stations are relatively close and PG knows how to move so people get on scene quick.

 

[WA3CSX]

only four per piece ie: first engine(4).second (4),trucks and squads(4),not sure about other pieces.Chief34a could better field that answer.

 

[Dewey]

I'm well aware of that, but WHEN it is in FDMA the HP1 works GREAT on PG. I added the system manually thru ARC Sentinel. Just because sometimes it's in TDMA shouldn't restrict the database from containing it.
...

Exactly! PGPD Frank Sector has been operating FDMA the last two nights.

Dewey

 

[DaveIN]

Has anyone looked at this system using UniTrunker with the PSR-800 IF output? I would be interested to know if the X2-TDMA talkgroups and radio ID's are displayed, if there is any difference from the norm.

 

[Dewey]

Has anyone looked at this system using UniTrunker with the PSR-800 IF output? I would be interested to know if the X2-TDMA talkgroups and radio ID's are displayed, if there is any difference from the norm.

What are you focusing on, my guess is the PSR-800's IF output? I've done it with the x96XT into UniTrunker and Pro96Com, and everything looks normal. I can give you the answer using a PSR-800.

Dewey

 

[DaveIN]

Hi Dewey, just curious if there is a difference, or if all is displayed as normal for a P25 system on Unitrunker. I wouldn't expect the data to be any different from the x96XT, but I wasn't sure with X2-TDMA involved.

 

[Dewey]

Ahh... ok. Yes, it is about as normal as normal can be for a system that uses each frequency twice , hence TDMA. I had to manually add the TDMA frequencies (the 03-xxxx) frequencies in UniTrunker, but they self populated in Pro96Com.

Take care,
Dewey