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Where or how can i program a xts 2500 or 3000 or 5000 at?

Cobra_Commander

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Basically, how would I be able to program one of these radios? If I buy one-off eBay I am not familiar with these radios and never bothered with them. And was thinking about buying one of those but where would I be able to program it? And does the software cost money this is coming from using a police scanner. And a unication G4 pager, which seems to be plug and play.
 

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Just buy a G4. Especially if you want to monitor a trunk system. There are a whole host of issues programming a XTS portable to passively monitor a trunk system, and from your post, doing it properly is beyond your knowledge. These are NOT the radios to learn on.

If you don't do it properly, anf the radio affikiates to the system you want t monitor, you can face some serious charges, depending on where you live, felony charges that can potentially result in prison time.
 

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Basically, how would I be able to program one of these radios? If I buy one-off eBay I am not familiar with these radios and never bothered with them. And was thinking about buying one of those but where would I be able to program it? And does the software cost money this is coming from using a police scanner. And a unication G4 pager, which seems to be plug and play.

There's a lot you'd need to know before buying one of these:

They are single band, as I'm sure you know. What you buy is what you get. You can't change the bands on these.
Flashcodes are a thing. Getting one with a stripped down flashcode will keep you from utilizing a lot of the features.
Programming software is free.
Programming cables are not.
The software is nothing like programming a scanner and has a steep learning curve.
NAS is dangerous if not done right. FCC has busted people for this.
Most of these radios are old enough to drink in all 50 states and have lived a hard life. Getting a good one is possible, but most have been beat within an inch of their life.
Any radio you buy will likely need a new battery, don't trust used batteries.
Replace the antenna, they get a lot of abuse.
Software for XTS3000 is different that the Astro25 portable.
Might need a trip to Mr. Service Monitor for an alignment.

Others will steer you to a Unication for good reasons. Don't discount what they are saying.

On the other hand, if you just need it for conventional (non-trunked) scanning, they do OK. The scan capabilities on these LMR radios isn't anything like what a scanner has. They tend to scan slowly and be limited to a handful of channels at a time.
If you get a good one, the receivers can be much better than a consumer scanner.
 

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There's a lot you'd need to know before buying one of these:

They are single band, as I'm sure you know. What you buy is what you get. You can't change the bands on these.
Flashcodes are a thing. Getting one with a stripped down flashcode will keep you from utilizing a lot of the features.
Programming software is free.
Programming cables are not.
The software is nothing like programming a scanner and has a steep learning curve.
NAS is dangerous if not done right. FCC has busted people for this.
Most of these radios are old enough to drink in all 50 states and have lived a hard life. Getting a good one is possible, but most have been beat within an inch of their life.
Any radio you buy will likely need a new battery, don't trust used batteries.
Replace the antenna, they get a lot of abuse.
Software for XTS3000 is different that the Astro25 portable.
Might need a trip to Mr. Service Monitor for an alignment.

Others will steer you to a Unication for good reasons. Don't discount what they are saying.

On the other hand, if you just need it for conventional (non-trunked) scanning, they do OK. The scan capabilities on these LMR radios isn't anything like what a scanner has. They tend to scan slowly and be limited to a handful of channels at a time.
If you get a good one, the receivers can be much better than a consumer scanner.
I already have a unication g4 and it works well. But the simulcast is a real problem with conventional scanners they are just to deaf to even be usable and miss all kinds of garbled traffic on p25 systems. The g4 i have for some reason the audio on it is very low even at level 70 volume for listening to p25 systems and requires me to use a bluetooth speaker i have i was just wanting to get a motorola radio to use to scan while at ham radio public safety events i volunteer at.
 

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Get an SDS scanner for the LARPing, and stick with a HAM radio for your activities. If you are attached to one of those official services, they will likely issue requisite hardware.
So why is the audio so low on the g4 is there anyway to fix this at level 70 to get it loud enough because when connected to a external bt speaker it is loud enough at 40-50 level?
 

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There's a lot you'd need to know before buying one of these:

They are single band, as I'm sure you know. What you buy is what you get. You can't change the bands on these.
Flashcodes are a thing. Getting one with a stripped down flashcode will keep you from utilizing a lot of the features.
Programming software is free.
Programming cables are not.
The software is nothing like programming a scanner and has a steep learning curve.
NAS is dangerous if not done right. FCC has busted people for this.
Most of these radios are old enough to drink in all 50 states and have lived a hard life. Getting a good one is possible, but most have been beat within an inch of their life.
Any radio you buy will likely need a new battery, don't trust used batteries.
Replace the antenna, they get a lot of abuse.
Software for XTS3000 is different that the Astro25 portable.
Might need a trip to Mr. Service Monitor for an alignment.

Others will steer you to a Unication for good reasons. Don't discount what they are saying.

On the other hand, if you just need it for conventional (non-trunked) scanning, they do OK. The scan capabilities on these LMR radios isn't anything like what a scanner has. They tend to scan slowly and be limited to a handful of channels at a time.
If you get a good one, the receivers can be much better than a consumer scanner.
An XTS3000 won't work for him in Ohio. It's mixed 700/800MHz trunking.
 

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Basically, how would I be able to program one of these radios? If I buy one-off eBay I am not familiar with these radios and never bothered with them. And was thinking about buying one of those but where would I be able to program it? And does the software cost money this is coming from using a police scanner. And a unication G4 pager, which seems to be plug and play.

Ohio marcs is not a system to mess around with. They have prosecuted people and jail time. Reference stark county.

Re-read what n3obl wrote.

You don't want to **** around with MARCS

 

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Yuuup...their radio support team like many of us who manage and administrate public safety networks browse these forums and wait for whacker hackers to do their "YouTube" expert programming of subscribers using unauthorized system keys, cloned IDs and bootleg copies of software to pop up. All three of which alone are potential legal trouble, but the second a subscriber emits any RF on our control or voice channels, it's a whole new level of "welcome to prison" that can happen. Ask those 5 clowns how that worked out for them- they got convicted.
 
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So why is the audio so low on the g4 is there anyway to fix this at level 70 to get it loud enough because when connected to a external bt speaker it is loud enough at 40-50 level?

You should ask this question in the Unication forum.

I have a G4, and frequently run it at 60 or 70, sitting in my living room. As long as I don't need to turn it up past 100, (max), I consider it ok.

The blue tooth speaker you have, apparently has some amplification, so you don't need the G4 audio as high.
 
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You should ask this question in the Unication forum.

I have a G4, and frequently run it at 60 or 70, sitting in my living room. As long as I don't need to turn it up past 100, (max), I consider it ok.

The blue tooth speaker you have, apparently has some amplification, so you don't need the G4 audio as high.
It was asked, and he hasn't responded to the factual posts therein.
 

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I'm looking at buying one of these too, in the UHF band for GMRS, and if I ever get tired of "ham for dummies" and graduate to armature radio there is a local ham P25 repeater in my area. I'm having the same issue, the one I'm looking at on Ebay is in good condition and would save me money instead of going to Haloid and paying more, but I'm kinda stuck without a way to program since the pc I use is a 64 bit.
 

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The software for the XTS3000 is not the same program as the XTS1500, XTS2500, and XTS5000 series radios and will require a Windows 32-Bit operating system preferably Vista, XP, and Windows 7.

Blue Max 49ers has a RIBless cable and they may be able to help you with acquiring the software. You will need to obtain the FTDI driver for the cable to work with your Windows computer
 

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I would consider the XTS1500, XTS2500, or XTS5000 and the CPS is compatible with Windows 7 (64-bit) Windows 11. Also, you can use an USB RIBless cable to program.

If you are strongly considering the XTS3000, I can program it for you if you don't want to invest or acquire an older computer and cables.
 

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Thanks for the information, and the offer. I'll do some checking around and see if I can find anything.
 
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