Who here listens to the birds in our friendly sky's?
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Buckskinner33
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I do. Why?
Buckskinner33 said:
What do you hear?
KC2LVC
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which do you monitor? amatuer, military, etc?
Buckskinner33
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Well ... Not to many AmSats left working (Basicly alot of Space Junk is floating around)
I do watch alot of GOES SatsI try to pic up the feed off the downlink to see if i can atlest get a picture.
What program are you using to track your birds?
I use SatScape. You need a fast PC to work the program in realtime but it updates the klep Elements everyday.
I was able to talk to the ISS this summer for about 10min for 3 day in a row!!
It will make a nice QSO card for the collection when I get it!!!! :roll:
Theres a group here in town who are more up to date then I am on the AmSats. I monitor them with my Yeasu Ft 736R when I can! My main prob is getting away from a hand held antennas.
Thats why Im not to heavy into the sats but I do try keep up on them.
JD
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I do watch alot of GOES SatsI try to pic up the feed off the downlink to see if i can atlest get a picture.
What program are you using to track your birds?
I use SatScape. You need a fast PC to work the program in realtime but it updates the klep Elements everyday.
I was able to talk to the ISS this summer for about 10min for 3 day in a row!!
It will make a nice QSO card for the collection when I get it!!!! :roll:
Theres a group here in town who are more up to date then I am on the AmSats. I monitor them with my Yeasu Ft 736R when I can! My main prob is getting away from a hand held antennas.
Thats why Im not to heavy into the sats but I do try keep up on them.
JD
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Buckskinner33
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You got to understand somthing....
LEO (Low Earth Orbiting) birds are passing by pretty fast so QSO's (Conversation) are brief 10 to 20 min Tops before you start too loose you signal unless it is GEO Stationary( Geosynchronous Earth Orbiting) IE: Direct TV, GOES or Echo Star. The SATS are further out and rotate with the Earth in a fixed position. Thus easier to listen too.
Millitary Sats are encrypted...even if its a standard telemetry. Very seldom if at all are you going to hear any audio as a Voice.
Mainley alot of chirps and Warbels, and a lot of other data chirps that are beyond me....Also they have a downlink in the Hi GHz range, way beyond most scanners.
I like Weather SATs... there is a lot of them and the telemetry can be decifered by simple programs off the net with the help of a radio modem to patch it thru to your PC. Most of new ones are in the Lo GHz downlink range depending on what SAT you work. But alot of the older ones have a VHF, UHF and HF down link.
Most of the commercial sats are scrambled...ABC, CBS, NBC, DirectTV and a Hodge podge of other sats can be cracked but Im not going to get into that...
The Coolest thing I heard and done was to talk to the International Space Station.
Ive Heard few OSCARS and GOES SATs go by with an automated voice ID'er.
But most of the AmSats acted like a, well, with a lack of a better descrption, A really big repeater tower. it was fun to work Voice, PSK and Packet on the OSCAR SATs. Ive talked and all over the World. But working SATs by voice reminded me of working an HF pile up. I needed alot of power to get my signal out.
The newest sat that up is Oscar AO-51 (PACB-11 Callsign) It does voice, digital and PSK.
The link on that bird is: http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/
So if you want to listen to the birds and a few HAMs talk then go to this site and learn about them.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/index.php
Give it a try, see what you can hear. But I remind you, The antenna makes the radio! So read up on different types of antennas you can use with your radio. I would sugest a small UHF or VHF beam. That way you can follow the SAT as it passes by. Rotors and there controlers an get expencive.
JD
LEO (Low Earth Orbiting) birds are passing by pretty fast so QSO's (Conversation) are brief 10 to 20 min Tops before you start too loose you signal unless it is GEO Stationary( Geosynchronous Earth Orbiting) IE: Direct TV, GOES or Echo Star. The SATS are further out and rotate with the Earth in a fixed position. Thus easier to listen too.
Millitary Sats are encrypted...even if its a standard telemetry. Very seldom if at all are you going to hear any audio as a Voice.
Mainley alot of chirps and Warbels, and a lot of other data chirps that are beyond me....Also they have a downlink in the Hi GHz range, way beyond most scanners.
I like Weather SATs... there is a lot of them and the telemetry can be decifered by simple programs off the net with the help of a radio modem to patch it thru to your PC. Most of new ones are in the Lo GHz downlink range depending on what SAT you work. But alot of the older ones have a VHF, UHF and HF down link.
Most of the commercial sats are scrambled...ABC, CBS, NBC, DirectTV and a Hodge podge of other sats can be cracked but Im not going to get into that...
The Coolest thing I heard and done was to talk to the International Space Station.
Ive Heard few OSCARS and GOES SATs go by with an automated voice ID'er.
But most of the AmSats acted like a, well, with a lack of a better descrption, A really big repeater tower. it was fun to work Voice, PSK and Packet on the OSCAR SATs. Ive talked and all over the World. But working SATs by voice reminded me of working an HF pile up. I needed alot of power to get my signal out.
The newest sat that up is Oscar AO-51 (PACB-11 Callsign) It does voice, digital and PSK.
The link on that bird is: http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/
So if you want to listen to the birds and a few HAMs talk then go to this site and learn about them.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/index.php
Give it a try, see what you can hear. But I remind you, The antenna makes the radio! So read up on different types of antennas you can use with your radio. I would sugest a small UHF or VHF beam. That way you can follow the SAT as it passes by. Rotors and there controlers an get expencive.
JD
JD
After several months of reading about the amsat community I grew familiar with the launch and late devlopment of the Echo bird. Your
damn right about how un godly expensive the sixteen foot round c
band type antenna's w/ the servo's and syncros are (Have you ever seen the earth moon earth *EME* gear and over head costs). The links you've
listed I'm fimilair regardless though thanks much....
After several months of reading about the amsat community I grew familiar with the launch and late devlopment of the Echo bird. Your
damn right about how un godly expensive the sixteen foot round c
band type antenna's w/ the servo's and syncros are (Have you ever seen the earth moon earth *EME* gear and over head costs). The links you've
listed I'm fimilair regardless though thanks much....
Buckskinner33
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LOL...
Now You know why I'm not that " In too It ! "
I don't have that sort of money lying aroud.
You can still have fun with it for a little amount of money but you are usualy restricted to work LEOs and like I said there fast. It sorta like waiting for the bus. They come and go and If you dont know the schedual for your area your usually waiting with your thumb up your butt!
There is one thing I touched on in my last post that makes the hobby somewhat barrible.
Your selection of antennas!
If you choose to buy them, well then its money you spent. But if you build them, then thats is money well spent. Most of those guys with EME and SAT antennea arrays are working multitude of different birds with different uplinks and downlinks per bird.
If you are just wanting to listen to them well then you dont need the uplink protion of the antenna array, your not transmitting are you? So don't include it in your array. If you wanted the bare bones array you can build one for less then $200 that would cover VHF and UHF and would control Azmuth and Declinatiion. Most of your parts would come from radio shack and the rest would come from a hardware store.
Then after that its you , your radio, antenna and a good tracking program from the comfort of your home scanning birds as they go by.
JD
Now You know why I'm not that " In too It ! "
I don't have that sort of money lying aroud.
You can still have fun with it for a little amount of money but you are usualy restricted to work LEOs and like I said there fast. It sorta like waiting for the bus. They come and go and If you dont know the schedual for your area your usually waiting with your thumb up your butt!
There is one thing I touched on in my last post that makes the hobby somewhat barrible.
Your selection of antennas!
If you choose to buy them, well then its money you spent. But if you build them, then thats is money well spent. Most of those guys with EME and SAT antennea arrays are working multitude of different birds with different uplinks and downlinks per bird.
If you are just wanting to listen to them well then you dont need the uplink protion of the antenna array, your not transmitting are you? So don't include it in your array. If you wanted the bare bones array you can build one for less then $200 that would cover VHF and UHF and would control Azmuth and Declinatiion. Most of your parts would come from radio shack and the rest would come from a hardware store.
Then after that its you , your radio, antenna and a good tracking program from the comfort of your home scanning birds as they go by.
JD
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