Why isn't Uniden America listening and giving us Tetra?

[Whiskey3JMC]

It's just joking way to refer to Baofengs, Pofungs, and similar radios because of people feeling they're controversial or common characteristics of the radios.

To think I actually wasted keystrokes Googling this

 

[iMONITOR]

Why isn't Uniden America listening and giving us Tetra?

 

[KC3ECJ]

So when does it get D Star and Yaesu's C4FM?

 

[JoeBearcat]

I also want dPMR in my SDS200.
But it probably won't be JB.
It is quite a shame that the E version of SDS scanners have some news and the US version nothing !!
Maybe kick JB in the ass and he'll wake up and start doing something !

I have been doing quite a lot - especially recently. What management wants done is not always what you (or even I) want done.

Bug fixes are the next SDS/HP/etc items to be addressed, but that will not include dPMR unless the engineers happen to lump it in with DMR.

 

[SKA999]

Let's have a vote. Who is in favor of replacing the Provoice with Tetra

 

[RRR]

When the SDS series came out, they were touted as scanners that "evolve" and are ready for new additions, FW updates, etc.

Nothing in over 2 years, when we were getting them every few months before Mr. Paul died.

It is concerning. And at this point, disappointing.

(Edit; if the non-US versions can pay to get TETRA, why can't the US versions? I mean, the technology is apparently there. DL the FW and buy the key for it. How much different are the US ones and the Non US ones?)

 

[jtwalker]

Let's have a vote. Who is in favor of replacing the Provoice with Tetra

This is fine with me (not that Uniden or anyone else cares), but my guess is Uniden has to feel there enough potential interest to make a profit by enabling this as an optional feature. I am sure there is work to be done to the firmware, and as a former programmer I can tell you all we don’t work for cheap 😜

 

[JoeBearcat]

When the SDS series came out, they were touted as scanners that "evolve" and are ready for new additions, FW updates, etc.

Nothing in over 2 years, when we were getting them every few months before Mr. Paul died.

It is concerning. And at this point, disappointing.

(Edit; if the non-US versions can pay to get TETRA, why can't the US versions? I mean, the technology is apparently there. DL the FW and buy the key for it. How much different are the US ones and the Non US ones?)

It has to do with demand and the cost of recouping license fees and R&D. I would estimate we are currently around the couple grand mark for a TETRA upgrade. Perhaps when TETRA becomes more popular, and in more demand, it will be worth pursuing because I don't think many people are gonna pay a couple grand for TETRA. There was a poll recently and something like 60 people wanted it. Even if you extrapolate it, that is not many people. Even Open Sky never hit the mark to add, and that was when there were several systems deployed including a couple statewide systems.

And this assumes the hardware is there to support it. Obviously the receiver is not an issue, but does the VOCODER support it?

And if one of the other Uniden divisions pays for the TETRA R&D that will make it less expensive for North America. Usually it is all done on NA's dime and used elsewhere.

On the other hand, if you really want it buy an SDS200E.

And FWIW, the last update was 9 months before Paul passed, and there are at least a couple updates that are coming soon for the SDS series. No, I don't have an exact release date, but they are in the works. In 2021 there were close to a dozen scanners that received new firmware.

 

[ludek-brno]

I think that the failure of the SDS series scanners is so great that the development costs have been absorbed by their warranty repairs.
Regardless of the scanner type (US / EU / NZ), the dPMR upgrade should be available to anyone who wants to.
Just for a possible released Tetra fw upgrade, I would buy a new SDS200.
We scannerists are not beggars. Give us what we want and you will be satisfied as well.
If you don't want a Tetra upgrade, you don't have to buy it!
You don't have to have pink glasses, but take off the black ones.

 

[werinshades]

Let's have a vote. Who is in favor of replacing the Provoice with Tetra

We never had advanced knowledge of DMR or NXDN being added to the 436/536. Some of the same folks here who are dismissing it were saying the same thing about those two formats too. TETRA systems are out here and overseas, so it has potential as the other two did. It's not a priority, but I'm glad the discussion was started.

 

[Monitorman7001]

It only supports mode 1 simplex what about mode 2 repeater and mode 3 trunking paying for the upgrade you would expect its support all elements of the open standard is mode 2 and 3 being worked on and it’s going to be released later?

I would support a tetra upgrade if necessary remove ProVoice it is not needed in the E/A markets.

 

[werinshades]

It has to do with demand and the cost of recouping license fees and R&D. I would estimate we are currently around the couple grand mark for a TETRA upgrade. Perhaps when TETRA becomes more popular, and in more demand, it will be worth pursuing because I don't think many people are gonna pay a couple grand for TETRA. There was a poll recently and something like 60 people wanted it. Even if you extrapolate it, that is not many people. Even Open Sky never hit the mark to add, and that was when there were several systems deployed including a couple statewide systems.

And this assumes the hardware is there to support it. Obviously the receiver is not an issue, but does the VOCODER support it?

And if one of the other Uniden divisions pays for the TETRA R&D that will make it less expensive for North America. Usually it is all done on NA's dime and used elsewhere.

On the other hand, if you really want it buy an SDS200E.

And FWIW, the last update was 9 months before Paul passed, and there are at least a couple updates that are coming soon for the SDS series. No, I don't have an exact release date, but they are in the works. In 2021 there were close to a dozen scanners that received new firmware.

I didn't know you could purchase a European model in the USA?

 

[Monitorman7001]

I agree remove the provoice to gain tetra

if R&D is so costly why don’t they consider crowdfunding?
are a upfront deposit for initial start-up costs.

 

[ScanHen]

I didn't know you could purchase a European model in the USA?

Can you tell when the newest version of Sentinel will be released so it supports the new firmware?

 

[buddrousa]

Lets have a vote leave my scanners alone and add something that EVERYBODY NEEDS not just 10 or 15.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

I agree remove the provoice to gain tetra

I'm aware Provoice has technically been EOL'ed but why the need to remove it to gain a new mode? I'm sure monitorors of these systems would disagree...

 

[belvdr]

I'm aware Provoice has technically been EOL'ed but why the need to remove it to gain a new mode? I'm sure monitorors of these systems would disagree...

I think many folks missed the part that if there was not enough room in firmware storage for a new mode, what could be removed to make space for Tetra? It seems many took that as truth, rather than speculation.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

How about adding a setting in "See Scanner Information" letting us know how much firmware storage is available? Pretty sure "% memory used" is only the memory card? Would be nice to know with all 3 paid upgrades installed on my SDS100 if I have room for any more

 

[tumegpc]

On the other hand, if you really want it buy an SDS200E.

Please provide links to purchase an SDS200E and will TETRA be available to purchase in myUniden account?

 

[belvdr]

How about adding a setting in "See Scanner Information" letting us know how much firmware storage is available? Pretty sure "% memory used" is only the memory card? Would be nice to know with all 3 paid upgrades installed on my SDS100 if I have room for any more

What's the point though, other than to give users ammo against Uniden? lol