Why isn't Uniden America listening and giving us Tetra?

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How would that work with the folks that paid for the PV upgrade? Would they still be able to listen to PV or will there be two sets of firmware? And then there's the cost of removing PV.
The problems with voting is the ones that are interested in Tetra are going to vote more which will skew the results. I'd rather see Uniden Engineering focused in other areas.

What seems to get lost and was mentioned before was elimination of other features was a hypothetical solution if capacity was the issue in not being able to add it. No..I hope it's just a paid upgrade for those that want it.
 

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So you all that want Tetra are willing to shell out a couple thousand USD each for it? This is what JB said, not a couple thousand in total for Uniden to deliver it to those that wanted to pay $70 each. And the person that posted that 65x70 multiplication statement, just change that 70 to be 1500 or 2000. This is the most humorous post I've seen in a while.
 

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So you all that want Tetra are willing to shell out a couple thousand USD each for it? This is what JB said, not a couple thousand in total for Uniden to deliver it to those that wanted to pay $70 each. And the person that posted that 65x70 multiplication statement, just change that 70 to be 1500 or 2000. This is the most humorous post I've seen in a while.
2000 $ let Uniden pay. Since beta testing was in 2919. So Uniden was interested in Tetra at that time. I'm ready to pay $ 100 for adding Tetra.
 

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In general, Uniden must think and listen to users. What new will they offer in 2022? Modifying SDS with bluetooth ?! New color themes ?! Well then, yes. Sales will skyrocket (just kidding) No SDS100 is the worst selling scanner ever. And the addition of Tetra to the new line. Will definitely improve the sale of them. In general, I suggest that Uniden open a fundraiser, on kickstarter or indigo. Who wants Tetra, let how much he can donate.
 

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Isn't most Tetra in the UK/Europe encrypted anyways?
The police are encrypted. Other services can be found openly. Anyway, by 2024-25 Europe will switch to POC communication. As will the United States in the near future. And buying scanners will become pointless.
 

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In general, Uniden must think and listen to users. What new will they offer in 2022? Modifying SDS with bluetooth ?! New color themes ?! Well then, yes. Sales will skyrocket (just kidding) No SDS100 is the worst selling scanner ever. And the addition of Tetra to the new line. Will definitely improve the sale of them. In general, I suggest that Uniden open a fundraiser, on kickstarter or indigo. Who wants Tetra, let how much he can donate.
While it may be true, where are the facts to support your claims?
 

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There were also reports. From beta testers in 2019. Tetra has been successfully tested on the HP and SDS series. Then this information was deleted.
Total BS. The beta testers signed NDAs so I don't think anyone would disclose any reports. I was a beta tester. Mostly on the XT series and when PV, DMR, & NXDN were in development on the BCD996P2 and BCD536HP.
 

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Dear new user that has been here less than 30 days this has done been covered.
UNIDEN has done answered this the cost to the VERY FEW would be $2000 US are you still willing?
YOUR CHEAPEST OPTION IS BUY A SDS200E
I bought SDS with all keys for $ 1000 If Tetra works well. Show all parameters. TMO / DMO.Gssi, Issi, MNC.MCC. TS. etc. Then yes! I'm willing to pay $ 2000. But are the rest ready? I doubt. And making Tetra for the sake of one Uniden user will not be!
 

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I bought SDS with all keys for $ 1000 If Tetra works well. Show all parameters. TMO / DMO.Gssi, Issi, MNC.MCC. TS. etc. Then yes! I'm willing to pay $ 2000. But are the rest ready? I doubt. And making Tetra for the sake of one Uniden user will not be!

It seems that you took a bit of a beating with the price---- buddrousa is much more accurate in the pricing assessment, at least here in the United States. But retailers and individuals are essentially allowed to charge what the market will bear, so no price is out of limits, which is why it is called "Suggested List Price".

I would recommend that if you are willing to shell out another thousand to fifteen hundred dollars, you start looking the the AOR DV1 or it's less popular portable cousin, the DV10.

If Uniden does in fact offer Tetra as an upgrade option, based on my experience, there is virtually nothing to listen to. Much of what out there is encrypted, if existence at all.

My best guess is that it may be offered on the next Uniden series, perhaps something along the lines of the SDS500 or SDS1000. As I have pointed out several times, admittedly with my minimal antenna configurations, here in the heart of midtown Manhattan, I have yet to here an intelligible Tetra signal.
 

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Seriously?



Those first 2 you listed were not sds200e based on the frequency range advertised. The last one is an sds200e and technically is illegal to import. Depends on how attentive customs is when it reaches the US
 

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If you replace DMR or NXDN instead of TETRA, this could be a post from the past prior to those digital modes being added. I also seem to recall just prior to MotoTRBO/DMR being added, some were saying "no way this is needed or going to happen". If you happen to be in an area where TETRA is being used, you might think otherwise. So far in Chicago, only 1 system exists at O'Hare Airport. Since I'm not close enough, I would apply an upgrade to my SDS100 only at this time and go there and update the talk groups in the database. So yes, the need is "starting" to be there, but not yet.

I'd like to see bug fixes take priority at this time, some of the nuisance ones corrected would be nice. But, if Sentinel was updated to allow TETRA systems to be added, firmware added to allow TETRA to be added, and a paid upgrade made available, the good news is you don't have to apply them if you don't want them. For me, Provoice has no use, but for those that need or want it, it's available and I'm sure they're happy.

Let's keep it on the radar, and if the technology is there to add it, I hope Uniden does so. I'm not sure why some are getting their panties in a bunch over this, when no one is forcing you to do anything. Relax everyone.
That I would agree with which is why I said 'not enough market... Yet'
 

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So how different is the SDS series in the USA, v/s the SDS series in non-USA?

I mean, do they have different innards? Are the hardware components different in the E series, and the USA series?

If they are the same scanner, but with different hardware, that's one thing, but I really doubt that is the case. I would be willing to bet whatever was done to the "E" model series to receive TETRA, could be done to the "USA" model series.

And "a couple grand"? Is that what the "E" users are paying for TETRA? I seriously doubt it.

I honestly would like to know why we in the USA can't get the same things the "E" users are getting, on the same scanners. (Minus the "Cellphone" band per FCC)

And yes, 9 months before Paul died. He was very sick, and getting progressively worse. I am sure his mind was on other things during the year leading up to his death. I see that as a tragic loss to Uniden, and us, the end consumer, as apparently, his shoes are a little too big to fill.
Among other things, the E series has different bandplans and frequencies that are illegal to monitor in the US.
 

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Probably won't be considered unless & until they can compete with the big boys...Motorola & Harris

And Motorola has been fighting against Tetra is the US all along. They don't like the emission mask. Plus I'm sure Harris is fighting it too in favor of OpenSky...
 
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