why you don't "ignore" weather alerts on your BC29

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INDY72

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Umm SAME UsesFIPS to give its Specific Area Messages.. guys I am not only NOT a idiot...... But do know how to read.. and KNOW SCANNERS.

If you read up a lil on how NOAA/NWS's NWR system works, youll see that not only is the old 1050 Hz tone still used,.. but the SAME alert system which utilizes the nationwide FIPS codes is used in conjunction with it.. and in some instances is replacing the old tone.

As for the 3 (Three) versions of the 94: 94 the first one- first to be a Uniden made for Radio Shack with 1000 chans, TT-II, SAME with msg differientiation (though it sucked on the first version).... Could NOT trunk and conventional scan at same time... and had a few other glitches.
94A: Second in the family and fixed the SAME issues for msg differentiation, allowed for both trunking and conventional scanninag, and allowed for conventional and trunked in the same banks, and added auto backlighting that worked right!
94B: Adds a PC/IF port though there is still NO true working software for this scanner..... yes there is software.. but nothing yet that does what you would expect software for a scanner like the 94 to do.

The 2052 is the Uniden made for Radio Shack BIG Brother to the 94's. Like a brother it has many features that are identical to the 94....

1000 chans, TT II type scanner.... but then thier are the extras that one expects with a bigger sibling :wink: -

SAME with FIPS programmability (up to 15 codes), Mil Air, PC/IF with fully operational software available on the older Police Call CD-Roms.. PC Controllable... and its 12 Volter so its mobile if you know what your doing.

I have owned both the 94, and the 94A, and 2 2052's

I prefer the 92B/2067 to them all for an all around better scanner,.... Yes the 94/2052 is easy to program in a few minutes time... but the features on the 92/2067 kick its ass! Alpha Tagging, CTCSS/CDCSS, TT III.....

The only advantage the 2052 has is the SAME with FIPS, and Mil Air.

But now that the 2051, and 97 are under construction.... I may reevaluate and decide to call the 2052 an dinosaur that needs put in the retired pasture for good once they make it to BT'ing and then to consumers!
 

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"Umm SAME UsesFIPS to give its Specific Area Messages.. guys I am not only NOT a idiot...... But do know how to read.. and KNOW SCANNERS. "

But some early scanners & weather radios only decoded the message type part of SAME, and not the FIPS (location) code.

- Rob
 

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Yes the PRO-92, PRO-93, early PRO-94 all not only did exaclty as stated.. but also had seperate WX alerts that responded to the 1050 Hz Tone. The newer scanners are set up for FIPS input thus can decode true SAME usage.... Another new one that goes back a step is the PRO-83.. this lil sucker again goes back to using both the 1050 Hz tone and some portions of the SAME feature.....

The top of the line WX Radios not only decode the SAME-FIPS info, but ccan be programmed to ignore such things as Amber Alerts, Test Messages,... and NON Emergency Broadcasts. Maybe this will be included in future scanners also.

And on a side note.. the newest CB's with WX features are adding SAME decoding technology..... Though I don't see a FIPS programmable CB anytime soon, though with SDR appearing.... who knows.. we may see a software controlled multiband radio that can do FRS/CB/WX.

Yeah scary aint it....

Anyway.. the whole point is.. when you know weather is not going to be the best... have your WX radios on, your scanners rolling, and TV's/Radios poppin, and ya HAM's get a yakkin'... PS folks already should be smart eneough to have thier radios and pagers ready.. equipment in order, and fuel in the chainsaws, and vehicles!
 

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Allrighty then, Maybe I am the Idiot, My Pro-94 only gets L1, L2 & L3 when in WX-ALERT Mode. My Pro-94 DOES NOT HAVE A PC INTERFACE, My Pro-94 DOES Track Conventional and Trunked togeather. I Might have a second generation Pro-94. If there is a 3rd. generation Pro-94 then I admit it! I am the confusing Idiot sent here by Satan. My Pro-94 does not include FIPS Programming, it just recieves the 1050hz. Coded statement for what ever area the frequency is being transmitted

furthuremore, I NEVER knew there was a Pro-2052b that could track Trunked & Conventional simaltaniously, Had I. then I'd Own one. Damn Fine Scanner!
 

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TXFirefighter112 said:
Seeing as we are coming up on spring.............again, how much does a decent WX radio cost? the only thing I really need for it to have is SAME and a low cost. I do have a Pro-94 that works, but it doesnt have SAME and I cant listen to WX and Fire at the same time! And bad WX is precisely when you want to be listening to both!

My brother bought me a weather radio with S.A.M.E. for about $35. Most radios cost $50. Radio shack sells a portable Catalog #: 12-259 (Model: T581) for $50 too.
 

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Allrighty then, Maybe I am the Idiot, My Pro-94 only gets L1, L2 & L3 when in WX-ALERT Mode. My Pro-94 DOES NOT HAVE A PC INTERFACE, My Pro-94 DOES Track Conventional and Trunked togeather. I Might have a second generation Pro-94. If there is a 3rd. generation Pro-94 then I admit it! I am the confusing Idiot sent here by Satan. My Pro-94 does not include FIPS Programming, it just recieves the 1050hz. Coded statement for what ever area the frequency is being transmitted

furthuremore, I NEVER knew there was a Pro-2052b that could track Trunked & Conventional simaltaniously, Had I. then I'd Own one. Damn Fine Scanner!

Yes, there are three versions of the PRO-94...

The original PRO-94, which I have, will not scan trunked and conventional at the same time.

The PRO-94A, the one you have, WILL, but still doesn't have the PC interface.

The PRO-94B, the newest one, adds the PC/IF jack.

The PRO-2052 originally would NOT scan them both, but they updated it (only last year, I think) so that it will, now...

No, the PRO-94's don't have the FIPS codes. But, if you're still thinking that that is a requirement in which to have SAME Alerts, then you never read the link I posted to NOAA's own website, with the SAME protocols. FIPS isn't mentioned.

The PRO-94 only uses the SAME for displaying the ALERT TYPE. It's still SAME, just not FULLY implemented.

Is this thread over, yet?
 
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Just for the sake of throwing jet fuel on the fire, is there any visible difference between the PRO-94, 94A and 94B? Or are they all marked as 94 with the exact same buttons and exact same instruction manual for confusing the hell out of people?
 

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TXFirefighter112 said:
Just for the sake of throwing jet fuel on the fire, is there any visible difference between the PRO-94, 94A and 94B? Or are they all marked as 94 with the exact same buttons and exact same instruction manual for confusing the hell out of people?

Look at the FCC label on the back. In the upper right corner, it'll say PRO-94, PRO-94A, or PRO-94B...

The instruction manual is NOT exactly the same, at least between the 94 and 94A. I don't know about the 94B...
 
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94 the first one- first to be a Uniden made for Radio Shack with 1000 chans, TT-II, SAME with msg differientiation (though it sucked on the first version).... Could NOT trunk and conventional scan at same time...

My scanner says 94 on the back...no A or B. But I am right now scanning both Dallas and Carrollton (Conventional and Trunked resp) at the same time....is it mislabled?
 

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TXFirefighter112 said:
94 the first one- first to be a Uniden made for Radio Shack with 1000 chans, TT-II, SAME with msg differientiation (though it sucked on the first version).... Could NOT trunk and conventional scan at same time...

My scanner says 94 on the back...no A or B. But I am right now scanning both Dallas and Carrollton (Conventional and Trunked resp) at the same time....is it mislabled?

It would seem that way. Everything that I've ever seen regarding the different models said that it's labeled with the different models...
 

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It has to iether be a mislabel.. or a switched guts scanner...

Even the original owner's manual states that the 94 can NOT scan conventional and trunked in the same bank..

The 94 A allows for both
 

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And for the alert system known as Specific Area Message Encoding- SAME to work accurately.. it uses the FIPS system for county differentiation. Thus Specific Area.....

No the older scanners didn't need the FIPS to give you the complete accurate alert... all they did was decode the message if they were in an area that recieved it..... The Newest WX radios, and newer scanners do allow you to input the FIPS codes to recieve true SAME Alerts for the specific FIPS areas you program in. The next generation of scanners could possibly even be set up so that they can recieve all the various SAME alerts not just the basic 3 level system.

SAME Alerts can not only include System Tests, Watch Level, Warning Level, and Messages, but also Terror Alerts, Amber Alerts, Special Bulletins, and the future enhanced FIPS system will allow for actual towns/cities to be included in the SAME system, not just the counties.

This is not an arguement, or flame , or diss of any kind.. just information sharing.. and if you don't like the thread.. then all you have to do is not read it.
 
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