CapnJon
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Are they now digital??
Wi State patrol...
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djeplett
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I can't say if the Iron County area is, but down here near New London
they aren't. I only hear the base on 154.935, but the last time I was
mobile near Green Bay I heard the cars also on that frequency. I was
using my PRO-2035 which is WAY not digital.
Hopefully in a week or so I'll put my old base antenna up & then I'll be
able to hear the cars...
they aren't. I only hear the base on 154.935, but the last time I was
mobile near Green Bay I heard the cars also on that frequency. I was
using my PRO-2035 which is WAY not digital.
Hopefully in a week or so I'll put my old base antenna up & then I'll be
able to hear the cars...
CapnJon
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Hey D...I run just a 9 foot stainles steel whip on my roof peak. I'm up over 1,800 feet but can't beat it for all band coverage. What antenna you going to get up? I have 60 foot of tower, but will only put up 40 of it on a 5 foot pipe, but I have a 4 element Joe Gunn Star that I want to get stuck in the air, and will put my 9' whip above it, or next to it...The entire U.P. has gone digital since the outgoing Gov'ner put 21 million into the system...Most around ere don't have the new digital scanner, but they are coming down in price...Good to hear from ya and thanks for the comeback!
JB
JB
djeplett
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My antenna is a Radio Shack all-band model 20-014 that is now discontinued.
It served me well in Ironwood.
One of the things I used to enjoy catching was the Coast Guard report
on (if I remember correctly) channel 22A. It was neat hearing the
weather reports for different parts of Lake Superior and the reports on
bouys with lights out and things. (Doesn't take much to thrill me. )
I can't believe you recieve so much with just a 9 foot whip. That blows
my mind. Must be something with the iron ore in the ground up there
that makes that size antenna perform...
The next time I head up that way I'll see what I can hear with my old
analog scanner and I'll let you know if I catch any Wisconsin State
Patrols. I never did hear them often when I lived there before.
Have you heard any calls about the cougar in Wakefield? :shock:
It served me well in Ironwood.
One of the things I used to enjoy catching was the Coast Guard report
on (if I remember correctly) channel 22A. It was neat hearing the
weather reports for different parts of Lake Superior and the reports on
bouys with lights out and things. (Doesn't take much to thrill me.
)I can't believe you recieve so much with just a 9 foot whip. That blows
my mind. Must be something with the iron ore in the ground up there
that makes that size antenna perform...
The next time I head up that way I'll see what I can hear with my old
analog scanner and I'll let you know if I catch any Wisconsin State
Patrols. I never did hear them often when I lived there before.
Have you heard any calls about the cougar in Wakefield? :shock:
CapnJon
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Cougar...
Oh man! That Cougar is getting around. Some say they have seen them out by Little Girls Point where the deer yarded up...
I passed a WSP Trooper 2 days ago. he pulled over to get the dude in front of me for speeding, but I didn't hear any tfc from him when checking the license out, so they must have the puter in the cars now to run the checks?
When you get up here let me know before hand and maybe meet up at Rigoni's for a donut and coffee, or a Yooper Pop if you prefer! Ha!
Snow is just about gone, and the Black River is pretty high...will have to get out and take some more pic's...Powderhorn Creek Falls has a cabin right next to it now so its posted private! That sucks...Damn FIB's! D'oh!
Oh man! That Cougar is getting around. Some say they have seen them out by Little Girls Point where the deer yarded up...
I passed a WSP Trooper 2 days ago. he pulled over to get the dude in front of me for speeding, but I didn't hear any tfc from him when checking the license out, so they must have the puter in the cars now to run the checks?
When you get up here let me know before hand and maybe meet up at Rigoni's for a donut and coffee, or a Yooper Pop if you prefer! Ha!
Snow is just about gone, and the Black River is pretty high...will have to get out and take some more pic's...Powderhorn Creek Falls has a cabin right next to it now so its posted private! That sucks...Damn FIB's! D'oh!
djeplett
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Hey CapnJon,
I just picked up my first ham radio. A Yaesu FT-7800R and it's much more
sensitive than my scanners. I'm picking up WSP cars now as well as the
dispatchers from District 3 and 4.
I just picked up my first ham radio. A Yaesu FT-7800R and it's much more
sensitive than my scanners. I'm picking up WSP cars now as well as the
dispatchers from District 3 and 4.
I up in Wisconsin in Janurary I could here the base on 154.935 with the PL tone turned on from the Mayville tower. I could only hear the mobiles being repeated on 154.935 when I had the PL tone turned off. I don't know why that happened. I could hear the mobiles on the input frequency with the PL tone turned on. I was using a BC796D I don't know if it was the scanner or the state patrol. It was anolog transmisions.
Does anyone have a map of the new boundries for the state patrol?
Does anyone have a map of the new boundries for the state patrol?
djeplett
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I believe this is correct.
6/9/05 - Attachment deleted by djeplett.
6/9/05 - Attachment deleted by djeplett.
djeplett
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This is off their website, so if it's wrong there is no 'official' map available.
http://www.dot.state.wi.us/about/locate/sp/offices.htm
http://www.dot.state.wi.us/about/locate/sp/offices.htm
izz
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Southeast Region Counties: Milwaukee, Waukesha, Racine, Kenosha, Walworth, Washington, Ozaukee
Southwest Region Counties: Dodge, Jefferson, Rock, Green, Dane, Columbia, Lafayette, Iowa, Grant, Sauk, Richland, Crawford, Vernon, Juneau, Monroe, La Crosse
Northeast Region Counties: Marinette, Oconto, Brown, Outagamie, Door, Kewaunee, Winnebago, Calumet, Manitowoc, Fond du Lac, Sheboygan
Northcentral Region Counties: Green Lake, Marquette, Waushara, Adams, Wood, Portage, Waupaca, Shawano, Marathon, Lincoln, Langlade, Menominee, Price, Iron, Oneida, Vilas, Forest, Florence
Northwest Region Counties: Buffalo,Trempealeau, Jackson, Clark, Taylor, Eau Claire, Chippewa, Pepin, Dunn, Pierce, Saint Croix, Rusk, Barron, Polk, Burnett, Washburn, Sawyer, Ashland, Bayfield, Douglas
Southwest Region Counties: Dodge, Jefferson, Rock, Green, Dane, Columbia, Lafayette, Iowa, Grant, Sauk, Richland, Crawford, Vernon, Juneau, Monroe, La Crosse
Northeast Region Counties: Marinette, Oconto, Brown, Outagamie, Door, Kewaunee, Winnebago, Calumet, Manitowoc, Fond du Lac, Sheboygan
Northcentral Region Counties: Green Lake, Marquette, Waushara, Adams, Wood, Portage, Waupaca, Shawano, Marathon, Lincoln, Langlade, Menominee, Price, Iron, Oneida, Vilas, Forest, Florence
Northwest Region Counties: Buffalo,Trempealeau, Jackson, Clark, Taylor, Eau Claire, Chippewa, Pepin, Dunn, Pierce, Saint Croix, Rusk, Barron, Polk, Burnett, Washburn, Sawyer, Ashland, Bayfield, Douglas
djeplett
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OK, guys. Try this on for size. And no complaining because I didn't stay inside the lines. :wink:
CapnJon
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Those are nice radio's DJ! I have been studying the tech exam online and hope to get my ticket this year...Then will go after the General exam afterwards...Been out at the farm the past two weeks so been offline. Heck of a bunch of storms came thru the past week, eh! Man! lots of damage up here and I see on the news you guys got it bad too! Scanner was busy from all the weather!
djeplett
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Does anyone know how the WSP system is layed out? I ask because in the database here they list an input and an output for each district, but the car transmissions are so weak compared to the base transmissions that I'm having a hard time believing they are repeated. Some of the car transmissions I hear are wavy on my S-meter. More so than a repeated transmission normally ever is. (I know when it's windy the antenna may get blown around causing the wavy signal strength, but not like I've heard.)
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djeplatt:
What made you select the Yaesu FT-7800R
over other models?
Have several Uniden scanners but thinking of getting a ham rig like this.
Do many hams cover trunking 800?
APCO 25?
Since they seem more sensative do they make better scanners than what
is offered by Uniden?
thx
What made you select the Yaesu FT-7800R
over other models?
Have several Uniden scanners but thinking of getting a ham rig like this.
Do many hams cover trunking 800?
APCO 25?
Since they seem more sensative do they make better scanners than what
is offered by Uniden?
thx
djeplett
Member
I liked that it was dual band, but the #1 reason was it's wide recieve coverage. It can recieve from 108 up to 520MHz and then 700 to 999MHz. Plus it has 1000 memories so you can store everything and anything. I've only used up about 500 so far and I don't see myself using all of them anytime soon. However, you really need the programming cable and software. Forget programming 500 memories without it.
No and no. You'll need a scanner for those. No problem in my area if you want to monitor PD/Fire/EMS. However, it won't stay that way for too long here.
I would say no, if scanning is what you want to primarily do. I plan on being a Skywarn spotter so I need to transmit. The 7800 only scans at about 30 channels per second tops, also. If you want a nice scanner DO NOT get a ham radio. They are not designed for the job. If you want to talk on the ham bands and do some minor scanning then a ham radio would be OK.
My recommendation is if you are looking for a nice sensitive scanner that can do trunking and digital then look at the Uniden BC796D or the BC296D as some hobbyists will be selling these used now that the BC396 is out. You should be able to get a good used one at a fair price.
73's
Back on topic:
WSP is not digital, nor will it be for the foreseeable future. The system is conventional VHF and it is repeated in all 5 regions. The repeaters cover most of the regions, but there are dead spots due to coverage limitations. Some regions only have one repeater, while others have more than one on opposite ends to ensure coverage.
Keep in mind the entire system is built around coverage for 100w mobile radios, most with 3db gain 5/8 wave antennas - not portables...there will be spots that a handheld scanner or poor mobile/base setup will not hear the closest repeater or tower.
The repeaters rebroadcast the field units audio, and the tower site closest to the unit is used by the communications center...this is why you can usually hear all field traffic but not all dispatch traffic.
As for mobile data, WSP has been using some form of mobile data for at least 10 years, although not every car had an MDT back then. As for now in 2005, every WSP vehicle assigned to a sworn officer, and some assigned to civilian support staff, have a MDC. The setup consists of a late model ruggedized laptop, docking station and high speed data radio.
Not everything is done on the radio anymore, esp. since it is a conventional, non-encrypted system. Everyone can listen, and as with any LE angency, there are some things that are of a sensitive nature that don't belong in the open.
WSP is not digital, nor will it be for the foreseeable future. The system is conventional VHF and it is repeated in all 5 regions. The repeaters cover most of the regions, but there are dead spots due to coverage limitations. Some regions only have one repeater, while others have more than one on opposite ends to ensure coverage.
Keep in mind the entire system is built around coverage for 100w mobile radios, most with 3db gain 5/8 wave antennas - not portables...there will be spots that a handheld scanner or poor mobile/base setup will not hear the closest repeater or tower.
The repeaters rebroadcast the field units audio, and the tower site closest to the unit is used by the communications center...this is why you can usually hear all field traffic but not all dispatch traffic.
As for mobile data, WSP has been using some form of mobile data for at least 10 years, although not every car had an MDT back then. As for now in 2005, every WSP vehicle assigned to a sworn officer, and some assigned to civilian support staff, have a MDC. The setup consists of a late model ruggedized laptop, docking station and high speed data radio.
Not everything is done on the radio anymore, esp. since it is a conventional, non-encrypted system. Everyone can listen, and as with any LE angency, there are some things that are of a sensitive nature that don't belong in the open.
djeplett
Member
stateboy said:
I often have the opposite problem; I hear the dispatch and not the mobile. But this clears up some questions I've been having. So this system is what is called a "polling" system then, correct?
I'm going to try to record some transmissions to show what I'm hearing. Tonight it's been weird. The unit transmissions (on 155.445) are picket fenced. (I think that's the right term.) But they are strong, like S5 or so. Now the base transmissions are weak, but not picket fenced. They're only about S2. What I don't understand is the wavering transmissions if what I am hearing is repeated. (And it's not just a wavering sound... the S-meter fluctuates as well.) I've never heard a repeated signal that was like this.
Of course all of this will likely go away or be marginalized once I put up a base antenna.
stateboy said:
Yes, thanks for getting this thread back on topic. I didn't want to ignore the other's questions, so I apologize for straying so far.
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