Wiki creation and editing is overly complex - any solution possible?

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Does anyone else have difficulty using the Wiki to find specific information and pages? When I bring up the main Wiki page I see a lot of choices and almost all of them do not involve the locations I'm looking for. What I'm looking for is the channel plans for various agencies that don't seem to be accessible via the Wiki tab on the corresponding database page for a particular agency.

For example, if click on the Wiki tab for Grand Canyon National Park I won't find the extensive table someone has developed that shows a multiple repeater site, multiple net, multiple frequency multicast system that is now in place there. I have to go to the main page of the Wiki and try to remember a round about way of getting the page that lists a lot of federal information. As I type this I can't remember how I get there, even though I do so several times per year. I'm also finding that some of the Wiki information available on a particular database page using the Wiki tab can't be found when navigating the main Wiki page.

I have another question related to the Wiki. I started a similar thread on the database administration thread. Is there an easier way to edit the pages. I'm glad I have the opportunity to be able to edit pages where I know I have the best information available to us to make the Wiki accurate. I like being able to do so without making a submission to an administrator as I can get the page to read very clearly without having to rely on an intervening person who might not see the importance of writing something in the exact way I write things. However, it takes for ever to write and edit the pages. The instructions are so complex that I just open the editing for other pages and try to understand the use of the various symbols. I just completed editing the National Incident Radio Support Cache page, with extensive edits of the National air to ground frequency list and some minor edits to other tables on the page as well. I have my own spreadsheet with all the data, which I use to keep track of the most current information. Transferring that information to the Wiki was a few hour job, time that could be better spent. I take the time so that everyone has the most current information for monitoring wildfire incidents.

Is there a way to make editing and creating Wiki page information easier? Some people have a lot more computer savvy than I and might think everything is pretty straightforward, but for me, at least, it is anything but. I may have some great information to share, but when I consider how long it takes to enter on the Wiki page I might not get it posted for an entire year. What I envision is some type of fill in the blanks, tab to the next blank situation.
 

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Does anyone else have difficulty using the Wiki to find specific information and pages?
Have you tried the Search box on the Wiki main page? Not the one at the top of the page, but the one about halfway down the left side titled "Search the Wiki".

One of the values to a wiki is that information in one page can be linked to information in other pages. It takes a lot of effort to make those links and, I'll admit, we aren't there. That said, we have set up the RR Wiki so that any logged in user can edit almost all of the articles. If you think a link should be added, you can do it. If you need help, let us know.

For example, if click on the Wiki tab for Grand Canyon National Park I won't find the extensive table someone has developed that shows a multiple repeater site, multiple net, multiple frequency multicast system that is now in place there.
Please provide a link to where you are starting from so I can see what you're talking about.

Is there a way to make editing and creating Wiki page information easier?
We are pretty much limited to the tools and user interface provided by the MediaWiki software upon which our wiki runs. There are some third-party tools available that will help convert from various file formats to the wiki mark-up language. I don't use them though I recognize that wiki mark-up can be a PITA until you get the hang of it. For whatever it's worth, the giant Wikipedia web site runs on MediaWiki, so the software user base is pretty extensive.
 

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I may have some great information to share, but when I consider how long it takes to enter on the Wiki page I might not get it posted for an entire year. What I envision is some type of fill in the blanks, tab to the next blank situation.

Many others here are better at the advanced Wiki stuff (templates, etc.) than I am right now, but I am comfortable with making tables, etc. in WikiCode and HTML. I am willing to help migrate your info from a spreadsheet to the Wiki with whatever detailed descriptions you provide, as is. I am willing to build text files you can then use in preview-mode to ensure it renders as you wish before you submit it to the Wiki. If your info is in Excel, I am already working on an automated way to make Excel produce the WikiCode (for tables, etc.) to a text file for a simple copy-paste into the WikiEditor. I plan to test that feature soon on other Wiki pages I am working on.

Send me a PM if interested.
 
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I for one would love to see what you come up with you generate the tables when you are done. I have compiled several counties fire department paging tones into lists and don't have a clue on how to add them to the WIKI. I am good with databases, not software code editing. I am sure there lots of folks this would enable to add info.

Thank you for working on this :eek:)

Richard in Edenton
 

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If you have these lists stored as Excel spreadsheets, translating them into wiki code isn't necessary. We can store them as files and you would then use the Media command to bring them into the appropriate article. Then add a category line for FTOs, and you're done.

See the very top of the Marion County Ohio article topic 4 for an example of the coding...Mike
 
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If you have these lists stored as Excel spreadsheets, translating them into wiki code isn't necessary. We can store them as files and you would then use the Media command to bring them into the appropriate article. Then add a category line for FTOs, and you're done.

See the very top of the Marion County Ohio article topic 4 for an example of the coding...Mike

That's very useful. Thanks,
 

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Interesting. I'll talk to Lindsay about it.
 
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