Will 09-30-2008 be last update for BCD396t

Status
Not open for further replies.

al95

Member
Joined
Jun 8, 2006
Messages
751
Location
Brownsville,Texas
Will this be the last update for BCD396T scanner? I can not find the answer for my question. I hope they continue updating this scanner. If you know the response let me know.
 

torontokris

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Feb 22, 2008
Messages
1,738
Location
Toronto Canada
UPMan has said he doesnt know... Uniden is probably going to concentrate on the 396XT

My guess/speculation is that YES it will be the last FIRMWARE.... unless there is a major fix that needs to be implimented, or the re-banding firmware needs to be tweaked
 

b52hbuff

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Dec 19, 2002
Messages
1,738
Interesting that Uniden went to the effort to implement an ESN to track individual radios to be able to track software purchases, and now this is the *last* update?

Why lay the ground work and then abandon it?
 

torontokris

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Feb 22, 2008
Messages
1,738
Location
Toronto Canada
I agree I thought they were going to have paid updates
But maybe it was a test / trial for the 396XT


Interesting that Uniden went to the effort to implement an ESN to track individual radios to be able to track software purchases, and now this is the *last* update?

Why lay the ground work and then abandon it?
 

jerk

Active Member
Joined
Sep 5, 2003
Messages
2,448
Location
jerkville
I agree I thought they were going to have paid updates
But maybe it was a test / trial for the 396XT

It's looking that way...
Seems to be no mention of any paid updates. Though was impleied as one fot eh reason for the "key" firmware update.
Of course it just might mean working on the firmware some more, but Uniden is so slow to release fixes and updates.

I wonder if the BCD396t is capable of NAC decode with a paid or otherwise update?
 

kellykeeton

Member
Joined
May 16, 2007
Messages
579
Location
Oak Harbor, Wa
what paid updates would you want? the scanner does everything you paid for it.. I highly doubt that the chance that it will decode encrypted opensky someday as a pay on feature was why anyone here bought uniden radios. You bought it as a rock solid P25 trunker.

im just noticing that for the last week or so every thread seems to be bob bummer. OH uniden wont do this uniden wont do that, uniden made my 500$ investment not cool any more. dumb uniden wont release anything new, we are getting a update this week but what after that why arnt they going to support my scanner for 30 years and provide updates..

seriously are we all that greedy? what about the ICOM-7000 scanner that's 10 grand you know how many new features it has last 2 years. A cpu fix and a color adjustment. Yahoo. but the poeple who have it bought it for the work it did day one. not all the well GRE has this for free and uniden is slow they just dont value the customer im buying a GRE

and forgive me if I wrong but complain about NAC?!?! how many systems out there use multiple P25 users on one frequency? i would be surprised whats the point? you want to listen to them not block them out. I understand this but dont understand that its in such high use in ANY municipality that this would be needed (I could be wrong and im sure you will correct me)

why dont people just say what they mean with all the post....

UPMAN IM CALLING YOU OUT BECAUSE YOU WORK FOR UNIDEN, IM PISSED OFF THAT YOUR COMPANY RELEASED A NEW SCANNER TO MAKE MY $540 2ND BEST MY NEIGHBOR WILL GET THE NEW SCANNER AND I WONT BE AS COOL AS HIM ANY MORE. I AM UPSET THAT YOUR COMPANY RELEASED A NEW SCANNER AND I MUST PAY FOR IT. I EXPECTED TO GET OPENSKY ON MY UNIDEN AS YOU CLEARLY STATED THAT YOU WOULD PROVIDE PAY FOR WITH THE ESN. IF YOU COULD PLEASE CHARGE ME $5 FOR NAC DECODING I WOULD BE HAPPIER AS I COULD THEN APPLY THAT FIRMWARE PATCH TO MY RADIO AND BE ONE UP ON MY NEIGHBOR WHO WONT BUY THINGS ONLINE WITH CREDIT CARD.

PS. DID I MENTION THAT I DONT LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU MADE A NEW RADIO AND DIDNT THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT I PAID $540 FOR MY RADIO AND I EXPECTED THIS TO BE THE LAST UNIDEN RADIO EVER SINCE IT WAS SO EXPENSIVE, I DONT WANT TO BUY A NEW RADIO WHY CANT YOU JUST APPLY THE SAME FUN THAT YOU DID TO THE NEW RADIO TO THE OLD RADIO SO I DONT HAVE TO SPEND THAT MUCH MONEY AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMY I DONT HAVE SPARE CASH.

PPS I DONT LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU DONT UPDATE YOUR RADIOS AS MUCH AS GRE

PPSS I READ THAT THE SELECTIVITY ON THE GRE IS BETTER THEN THE UNIDEN CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE A PATCH TO MAKE MY UNIDEN BETTER THEN MY NEIGHBORS GRE AS FORMENTIONED I CANT AFFORD ANOTHER EXPENSIVE RADIO

PPPSS dont take this post seriously, im just stating a point and im sure that mod that chomped me in the last post I tried to squelch this angry posting will come after me again, (even though he added to the argument and later posted about how selectivity in the radios is better showing his GRE fanboyness) however this is just my opinion, which I feel I have the right to state.
 
Last edited:

torontokris

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Feb 22, 2008
Messages
1,738
Location
Toronto Canada
Funny... add the
"I have no problems, but I want a firmware updates forever for my 3+ year old radio"

I have no idea what the firmware updates do, or what features "if any" are added.. but I want updates!!
 

mancow

Member
Database Admin
Joined
Feb 19, 2003
Messages
6,908
Location
N.E. Kansas
I want a firmware update for my 1995 Jeep Sahara and my 1968 house and my.......

I just don't understand the expectation of free features that some seem to expect. I'm just happy it's happening at all.
 

scannerfreak

Well Known Member
Database Admin
Joined
Jul 3, 2003
Messages
5,193
Location
Indiana
I want a firmware update for my 1995 Jeep Sahara and my 1968 house and my.......

I just don't understand the expectation of free features that some seem to expect. I'm just happy it's happening at all.


GRE doesn't seem to mind :)
 

Jay911

Silent Key (April 15th, 2023)
Feed Provider
Joined
Feb 15, 2002
Messages
9,378
Location
Bragg Creek, Alberta
The part that I don't get is how people complain about how GRE has had 14 firmware updates and Uniden has had only 1 or 2 in the same amount of time. That's kind of like saying that since Ubuntu Linux only had 1 or 2 updates this week and Windows XP had 14, that Windows is clearly better. The OS war issue notwithstanding, lots of bugfixes/firmware updates does not equal a better product.
 

GTO_04

Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2004
Messages
1,940
Location
Noblesville, IN
Interesting that Uniden went to the effort to implement an ESN to track individual radios to be able to track software purchases, and now this is the *last* update?

Why lay the ground work and then abandon it?

All the whining on the forum about paying for upgrades probably caused them to abandon the idea.

GTO_04
 

K8TEK

Completely Banned for the Greater Good
Banned
Joined
Jul 13, 2004
Messages
681
Location
Ohio
The part that I don't get is how people complain about how GRE has had 14 firmware updates and Uniden has had only 1 or 2 in the same amount of time. That's kind of like saying that since Ubuntu Linux only had 1 or 2 updates this week and Windows XP had 14, that Windows is clearly better. The OS war issue notwithstanding, lots of bugfixes/firmware updates does not equal a better product.
No, that isn't what people are saying. That is a perfect example of how GRE discovers a problem and fixes it, unlike Uniden who just makes a new radio.
 

rocksteady

Member
Joined
Dec 14, 2006
Messages
105
Location
Mid-Michigan
The only update I really care about is not having to spend hours tweaking my audio settings to find a happy medium to listen to clean transmissions. Everytime I spend time tweaking it, something else sounds crappy. There is no perfect audio tweak (manually) for my radio. Color display options would be cool, but that's hardware.
P.S. indeed if there is no more support for the 396/996 you can bet people will be doing little hacks on the 396, like green lights,.. ect...

Rocky
 

heinz_david

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
May 3, 2003
Messages
24
Location
Auto-Risers
Uniden is like a Volkswagen - It's a peoples radio that everyone likes - and loves to tinker with. Take a look at all of the mods and software developed for these radios already. Now look at a Volkwagon owner. Once you get past the drool and the crazy look in their eyes, all they want to do to their beloved cars is tinker. Bigger tires, Lower to the ground, bigger stereo, bigger turbo, less exhaust pieces - get the idea?

Take a look what happens when someone actually finds something that works - a tinker. They all feel that they should have been the origianl engineer in the development of the product. Car or Radio. I get a lot of entertainment from watching and listening to these people. All of us here want to tinker. A simple download for an update once a year - needed or not - is apparently not enough. We like to attach cables - run software - etc. - tinker.

Me - I am happy with my radio(s). I tinker with software - remote and local. Actually looking and finding new frequencies. This is enough for me. All I ask is that the radio I purchase performs to the specifications of the brochure. After all - If it didn't, I wouldn't be holding it right now. Would you?


Anyway - I need to find a "firm-wear" update for my wife. Has mostly to do with some droopy parts. That way I believe I can once again be interested in tinker-ing. If anyone can point me in the right direction - greatly appreciate it.


Now - I must go and install the latest round of updates - again - oh what a chore...............


Tinkering Foole
 

b52hbuff

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Dec 19, 2002
Messages
1,738
what paid updates would you want? the scanner does everything you paid for it..

I can think of lots of things...

#1. NFM voice channels for EDACS wide
(UPMan says this is in new radio, yeah!)
#2. Alert on unknown TGIDs
#3. Better LTR support ala GRE
#4. Multi-site Trunking
#5. More service search ranges
Add US TRS 'bands' e.g. 406.1-419-9875, 380-399.9875, 800MHz (don't remember)
#6. More customer search ranges
#7. Auto latch CTCSS SEARCH
#8. Allow simultaneous digital and CTCSS/DCS search
#9. More TGIDs per system
#10. More 'debug' info to be able to figure out base/offset for non-800/900MHz trunk
...

I'm not saying that I *paid* for those when the radio when it came out. And I don't think that software is *free* or that I'm entitled to it. All I'm saying is that if there is space for more code, I can think of features I'd like to see...
 

jerk

Active Member
Joined
Sep 5, 2003
Messages
2,448
Location
jerkville
The whole thing with the ESN and Key is the implication that paid updates "might" be offered.

IMHO, looks like if you want an update, buy the scanners coming out in 2009.

I may be the only one, but I am getting some motorboating.
And they just worked on that site yesterday.

So I hope there is still another update or two still left.
 

Go-24

Member
Joined
Mar 28, 2006
Messages
495
Location
Indiana
All the whining on the forum about paying for upgrades probably caused them to abandon the idea.

GTO_04

If the updates are to fix design flaws then they shouldnt cost a penny - if the updates are new and improved features that users want - then most users wouldnt mind paying for them.
 

kellykeeton

Member
Joined
May 16, 2007
Messages
579
Location
Oak Harbor, Wa
I can think of lots of things...

#1. NFM voice channels for EDACS wide
(UPMan says this is in new radio, yeah!)
#2. Alert on unknown TGIDs
#3. Better LTR support ala GRE
#4. Multi-site Trunking
#5. More service search ranges
Add US TRS 'bands' e.g. 406.1-419-9875, 380-399.9875, 800MHz (don't remember)
#6. More customer search ranges
#7. Auto latch CTCSS SEARCH
#8. Allow simultaneous digital and CTCSS/DCS search
#9. More TGIDs per system
#10. More 'debug' info to be able to figure out base/offset for non-800/900MHz trunk
...

I'm not saying that I *paid* for those when the radio when it came out. And I don't think that software is *free* or that I'm entitled to it. All I'm saying is that if there is space for more code, I can think of features I'd like to see...

I like your reply sir. that's what I expect to see posts contain in these forums. a nice complaint with some offerings.

and I like your list there - #2 man that would be sweet a$$ sweet.

we should consider starting a uniden Bounty area, ideas and your donation button to financially influence the developers to spend time to develop the ideas with the most cash donated... too bad this isn't a open source project (or a political ballet, or a bill to the house) I think a company as large as uniden cant do that. But hey fun to make the list.
 

al95

Member
Joined
Jun 8, 2006
Messages
751
Location
Brownsville,Texas
That was my point. Why do the Esn update. I think they where just checking how many people own the BCD396T, to help them deceide if they should release a new radio. Why wait to make the announcement of the new radio. They should have announce it since August so people buying the radio would have a choice to buy it or wait for the BCD396xt to be release. I would like to buy for an update rather the paying $500 for a new radio. If i'm going to buy a new radio it would be a PSR500 they keep there promise of updates. Uniden has only release I think three updates not counting the ESN it was not an update it just added a checksum # and esn #.

I DONT MIND PAYING FOR AN UPGRADE WITH FEATURES THAT WE WHAT.

UPMAN WHAT HAPPENED TO PAY FOR UPGRADE THAT PRINTED IN THE LAST UPDATE (ESN CHECKSUM) OR WAS IT A TRICK TO COUNT HOW PEOPLE OWNS THE RADIO


UPMAN PLEASE REPLY
 

UPMan

In Memoriam
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Apr 19, 2004
Messages
13,296
Location
Arlington, TX
I suppose you could send me $25 in unmarked bills for this update.

I have (seriously) replied elsewhere.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top