Will it ever happen

[dallascowboys]

Sorry if this is in the wrong post, as you can see above this topic is will the HP2 ever get DMR and NXDN or is the HP2 now just a paper weight ? Did I spend money on a product that now I can not use ?

 

[iMONITOR]

Sorry if this is in the wrong post, as you can see above this topic is will the HP2 ever get DMR and NXDN or is the HP2 now just a paper weight ? Did I spend money on a product that now I can not use ?

Uniden never mentioned the HP2 was even possibly going to support DMR or NXDN when you bought it, and it still does what the specifications said it would do when you bought it. So why all of the sudden is it just a paper weight? Why can you no longer use it? I don't understand your question?

 

[dallascowboys]

The reason I asked this is because now that most counties and states are going to NXDN and DMR how am I suppose to listen if the HP2 don't pick this up. Also from what I understand unless I understood wrong in some of the post they state that the HP2 is the same or almost the same as the 436 and can handle DMR and NXDN . For another example what if I listen to railroad but railroad is DMR or for a better example Geneva Co Fire 159.2325 this is an NXDN frequency .

Thanks for the getting back with me on this .

 

[mule1075]

Also from what I understand unless I understood wrong in some of the post they state that the HP2 is the same or almost the same as the 436 and can handle DMR and NXDN.

I am almost sure that the HP2 has completely different hardware.

 

[mharris]

The reason I asked this is because now that most counties and states are going to NXDN and DMR how am I suppose to listen if the HP2 don't pick this up. Also from what I understand unless I understood wrong in some of the post they state that the HP2 is the same or almost the same as the 436 and can handle DMR and NXDN . For another example what if I listen to railroad but railroad is DMR or for a better example Geneva Co Fire 159.2325 this is an NXDN frequency .

Thanks for the getting back with me on this .

This is what happens when people live their lives based on perception and not reality. I have no idea how this type of info gets out there: "Most counties and states are going to NXDN and DMR". WHAT???

 

[Ubbe]

It was said about some Uniden scanners that they would never get DMR but suddenly they got it anyhow. You never get any definite answers from Uniden about anything, probably because they do not know themselves what they will choose to offer in the future.

/Ubbe

 

[Ubbe]

Wasn't it UPMan himself who mentioned that the HP2 belonged to the same family as x36 and even the battery backup problem was copied to the HP2? Maybe Jonwienke, who has seen the inside of both x36 and HP2 scanners, have an opinion?

/Ubbe

 

[ofd8001]

I'm a little suspicious of "most" counties and states going to NXDN or DMR. I think those communities with financial challenges have been interested in these formats as alternative. However in the big picture, there may be some interoperability concerns, and interoperability is a big thing for grant money to buy radio equipment.

 

[mule1075]

I'm a little suspicious of "most" counties and states going to NXDN or DMR. I think those communities with financial challenges have been interested in these formats as alternative. However in the big picture, there may be some interoperability concerns, and interoperability is a big thing for grant money to buy radio equipment.

I think the OP might have meant most of the counties in his state. If that is what the OP meant that seems to hold true looking at the state forum and database for his location. I could very well be wrong just throwing it out.

 

[garys]

I'm familiar enough with scanning AL to know that "most counties" down there aren't going to NXDN or DMR. Most of the larger areas are going to P25 Phase 1 or 2.

 

[iMONITOR]

The reason I asked this is because now that most counties and states are going to NXDN and DMR how am I suppose to listen if the HP2 don't pick this up. Also from what I understand unless I understood wrong in some of the post they state that the HP2 is the same or almost the same as the 436 and can handle DMR and NXDN . For another example what if I listen to railroad but railroad is DWill it ever happenMR or for a better example Geneva Co Fire 159.2325 this is an NXDN frequency .

Thanks for the getting back with me on this .

Many people today assume if not expect all scanners will be upgraded to what ever new mode is developed. On top of that they feel it should become available immediately. It's unreasonable to think this. This was never the case in past years. We're getting spoiled. Not every change can be implemented via a firmware upgrade/update. Some would require hardware modifications, and others will never be upgraded. Even Uniden's new SDS100 being a SDR is not future proof.

This doesn't make the scanner obsolete or unusable. Most of us just re-purpose the scanner for other modes/services, like aircraft, military etc. Or we simple sell it and recover what we can and invest in a new scanner if required. It's the nature of the hobby.

The HP2 is still a very capable and desirable scanner and should sell quickly if you decide to do so.

 

[hiegtx]

Wasn't it UPMan himself who mentioned that the HP2 belonged to the same family as x36 and even the battery backup problem was copied to the HP2? Maybe Jonwienke, who has seen the inside of both x36 and HP2 scanners, have an opinion?

/Ubbe

I may be wrong, but I believe the comment (from UPMan or maybe someone else) was that the HP-2 has the same vocoder as the x36HP series. However, it could be that the HP-2 does not have enough firmware headspace (memory) for DMR, or perhaps it is lacking something else that is also needed.

While I'd like to see DMR and/or NXDN added to this unit, I doubt it will happen. If it were possible, probably the HP-2 would have gotten a DMR option by now, As for NXDN, neither the 325P2 nor the 996P2 have that option (at least not yet). No idea whether either of them have the necessary components and firmware memory available to add the mode.

Many people today assume if not expect all scanners will be upgraded to what ever new mode is developed. On top of that they feel it should become available immediately. It's unreasonable to think this. This was never the case in past years. We're getting spoiled. Not every change can be implemented via a firmware upgrade/update. Some would require hardware modifications, and others will never be upgraded. Even Uniden's new SDS100 being a SDR is not future proof.

This doesn't make the scanner obsolete or unusable. Most of us just re-purpose the scanner for other modes/services, like aircraft, military etc. Or we simple sell it and recover what we can and invest in a new scanner if required. It's the nature of the hobby.

The HP2 is still a very capable and desirable scanner and should sell quickly if you decide to do so.

+1
My HP-2 is still in everyday use, and does what I expected. Recently, there was a post on both the Home Patrol & 536HP groups from someone who wanted to trade a 536HP for an HP-2. So the HP-2 still has value.

 

[del1964]

HP-2 is an awesome scanner. If I "HAD" to pick one for daily use and ease of use and works great on Indiana's SAFE-T system, I'd pick the Home Patrol II. GPS capability, touch screen.....which makes it very easy to lock onto a system, department or channel. Trunk mounted antenna brings in everything very nicely from CB radio to 800Mhz. I foresee an HP III (SDS-300???) with the same capabilities as the SDS-100 as far as DMR and NXDN and ProVoice decoding abilities. It sits so nicely in an auto environment too because of it's design shape.

 

[marksmith]

This is what happens when people live their lives based on perception and not reality. I have no idea how this type of info gets out there: "Most counties and states are going to NXDN and DMR". WHAT???

I know of no county or state going to NXDN or DMR.

Mark
SDS100/536/436/ws1095/996p2/996xt/325p2/396xt/psr800/396t/HP-1/HP-2 & others

 

[wbswetnam]

I have a BCT15X, which is an analog-only scanner, but I sure wouldn't call it a "paperweight". Heck, I have a nearly thirty year old ten channel Bearcat 142XL which I use for online feeds (when I have them). I don't call it a "paperweight", either. Some people have unrealistic expectations.

 

[dallascowboys]

Yes I was talking about my county, and areas around me have DMR and NXDN, but reading the great info everyone has posted and thank you all for getting back with me on this, I decided to do some research, and this is what I came up with. Some counties in Alabama have both NXDN and DMR, Georgia has the same along with Florida, Ohio, West Virginia, and Washington State according to what is in the DB and there are many more, so if I am traveling with my HP2 I will not receive some or all frequencies that are DMR and NXDN. What I am saying is, that the HP2 will not get any more upgrades and the ones who have the HP2 is out of luck and this seems to be what is in most of the posts, not just this post but others. Again thank you all for getting back with me on the info of the HP2.

 

[noaim]

Sorry if this is in the wrong post, as you can see above this topic is will the HP2 ever get DMR and NXDN or is the HP2 now just a paper weight ? Did I spend money on a product that now I can not use ?

it was never said to be compatible with those..

This go's for anything you buy
If uniden can make it happen maybe they would but you can't buy something today and just expect its going to work on anything ever invented

 

[SCPD]

You could always put it next to a computer and run DSD software then it Will do additional modes. NXDN,DMR,Provoice.
Its a base scanner anyway....

 

[coolderb]

Sorry if this is in the wrong post, as you can see above this topic is will the HP2 ever get DMR and NXDN or is the HP2 now just a paper weight ? Did I spend money on a product that now I can not use ?

When did you purchase the HP2? At the time of your purchase were their any DMR and NXDN capable scanners available?

I had an HP2 a few years ago. When Provoice capability was added to the BCDHP436 I sold the HP2 and bought the 436 because the local agencies in my area at the time were still using Provoice. They have since moved to P.25 Phase2. There is very little NXDN and just a smattering of DMR in my area. The HP2 would be fine in most areas of the US. I traveled with mine a lot throughout the East Coast and it did a great job esp. while connected to GPS.

 

[Ubbe]

You could always put it next to a computer and run DSD....

How do you do that? Was there an option to get raw discriminator audio using USB, was that only with extreme upgrade and was it only when stationary on a frequency or could it be done while scanning several frequencies in a system?

/Ubbe