Will my scanner work after rebanding

[Symore]

Hello,I have been reading up on the rebanding issue and still not certain about my scanner,a Pro-93. In my area the trunking freqs. are 506. thru 508. with the base being 505.000. Will these freqs. be affected with the new rebanding and will my scanner still work with them. There is no digital here so I really dont need one of the new type scanners out. My Pro-93 works really well for me.
Thanks in advance for any input into this.

 

[enginecompany]

welcome to the site,

yes it will work, rebanding is only affecting 800mhz systems

 

[Symore]

Thanks for the response. This is a great web site.

 

[Voyager]

welcome to the site,

yes it will work, rebanding is only affecting 800mhz systems

And then only Motorola 800 MHz P16 systems
(It won't affect P25 systems which will only change control channels)

Joe M.

 

[benjaminarthurt]

im new....


p16 is that still a digital trunking motorola?

or will rebanding affect the local analog motorola type 2?

 

[Voyager]

im new....


p16 is that still a digital trunking motorola?

or will rebanding affect the local analog motorola type 2?

P16 uses a 3600 control channel that is commonly called Type I, Type II, Type IIi, and has Standard or Splinter flavors (AKA Smartnet, Privacy Plus, Etc.). As far as Motorola trunking goes, it's nearly everything that isn't P25 (although there are a few other systems around, but I suspect those systems won't survive rebanding at all).

Joe M.

 

[N_Jay]

Do we REALLY have to create another misnomer on this site? :roll:

APCO Project 16 is a functional specification developed in the early '80s for public safety trunking.

It is not a technical specification.

The vendors each updated (more or less) their existing trunked products to cover the needs expressed in APCO Project 16.

This includes Motorola Smartnet (Which is what is REALLY being discussed here), GE EDACS and EFJ Multi-Net.

So the CORRECT term to be used is MOTOROLA SMARTNET. To be more specific Motorola smartnet and SmartZone using a Type 1, Type 2 or "Hybrid" control channel.

P16 really has NOTHING To do with it.

 

[Voyager]

Do we REALLY have to create another misnomer on this site? :roll:

APCO Project 16 is a functional specification developed in the early '80s for public safety trunking.

So the CORRECT term to be used is MOTOROLA SMARTNET. To be more specific Motorola smartnet and SmartZone using a Type 1, Type 2 or "Hybrid" control channel.

P16 really has NOTHING To do with it.

So you're saying Smartnet doesn't meet P16 standards and can't be referred to as P16 (as opposed to P25 compliant systems)?

Joe M.

 

[N_Jay]

So you're saying Smartnet doesn't meet P16 standards and can't be referred to as P16 (as opposed to P25 compliant systems)?

Joe M.

Sure Smartnet does meet P16, and so does Astro, EDACS, P25, and Muti-Net.

The issue is you are using the very vague term p16 to try to differentiate a system from P25.

This would be akin to using the term "CAR" to try to tell someone that something is not a station wagon!

 

[Voyager]

Sure Smartnet does meet P16, and so does Astro, EDACS, P25, and Muti-Net.

The issue is you are using the very vague term p16 to try to differentiate a system from P25.

This would be akin to using the term "CAR" to try to tell someone that something is not a station wagon!

More like Chevy vs Corvette. The latter is simply a higher standard. I'll say 'mere P16' or 'only P16' next time. :roll:

I was just trying to easily differentiate the other systems from P25 systems. Since they are P16 compliant, but not P25 compliant, it seems like a good way to make the distinction. Oh, that's not a Corvette - it's just a car does work when you are trying to describe every other car other than a Corvette.

Sure, to be technically correct, you should say "That's not a Cornette - it's a Corsica or a Cavalier or a Caprice or a Lumina or, Etc., Etc., Etc." but it's much easier to just leave the line drawn at "It's not a P25 system" and lump the rest that meet P16 standards as the other group of formats.

Actually, Steel (P16 systems) vs Stainless Steel (P25 systems) would be a more close analogy. One is simply a higher standard than the other.

Joe M.

 

[DaveNF2G]

Here I go agreeing with N_Jay again.

The "higher standard" argument doesn't really work for P16 vs. P25 because they cover different aspects of the radio system. There is some overlap, I think, in the details, but Project 25 was not intended to address the same issues that Project 16 was about. It is probably fair to say that a P25 system exceeds P16 standards, but that still does not provide a basis for direct comparison between the two Projects.