Win500 and PRO197

[NCFire11]

Looking for help on this.

I have Win500 and an older PRO197 that I am trying to program.

I am using a cable that I have had for years that I have used to program the scanner with in the past..

I am using the correct port, and PRO96com even decodes great using the PC/IF port.

When I go to read the scanner, the progress bar goes across as if it is working correctly, but when it gets to the end it simply does nothing. It doesn't give any errors but the data that I have on the scanner does not populate in Win500, and I also tried writing a blank file to the scanner and same thing, the progress bar goes across but when it is done the scanner has the old files on it.

I know that it can detect the scanner because if I unplug it from the PCIF while trying to read the progress stops.

Its just strange that PRO96 works but WIN500 wont.

 

[ka3jjz]

Are you using the little dongle that comes with the cable? For the 197, don't.....Mike

 

[ka3jjz]

There's been several reports of Win500 being really flaky about recognizing the cable. Why no one knows, and Don Starr seems to have vanished. I'd suggest moving over to either ARC500 or PSREdit500, both of which support that radio....Mike

 

[buddrousa]

As stated the PRO96 uses the Stereo Adapter and the PRO197 does not use the ADAPTER.

 

[gmclam]

1) Do not use the pigtail
2) It sounds like the cable is recognized (COM port)
3) I park the scanner in MAN mode while using serial coms so it is not "busy"
4) The issue is with sending data from the scanner to the PC. There are several boxes in WIN500 that you can try (I can't give examples right now w/o a cable being plugged in)

 

[tvengr]

Does the scanner screen show the percentage of the file being transferred when you upload to it? If the same as ARC500, the data will show being transferred in the software even if a scanner is not connected to the cable. If you don't get the percentage on the scanner screen, I suspect that you may have a bad cable. As stated earlier, do not use the mono pigtail. The Pro-197 requires a TRS stereo plug.

 

[Nasby]

As stated the PRO96 uses the Stereo Adapter and the PRO197 does not use the ADAPTER.

I use the same cable to program the PRO96 and and PRO197 and WS1040, etc. without any type of adapter or cable change.

It works fine for all the models listed.

If you can program your PRO96 with the cable, then you should be able to program the 197 without changing the cable, adapter, etc.

It could be an issue with the drivers or perhaps the PC/IF port in your PRO197 may be bad.

 

[buddrousa]

Nasby I own 106 197 uses no stereo to mono adapter they work only with the stereo plug. I also own a 96 it only programs from the mono adapter only it will not work with the stereo plug

 

[Nasby]

Nasby I own 106 197 uses no stereo to mono adapter they work only with the stereo plug. I also own a 96 it only programs from the mono adapter only it will not work with the stereo plug

That's odd because I have all of those too along with a WS1065 and WS1040 and I use the same programming cable for all of them including the PRO96. No pigtail or cable changes needed.

The cable I have is the Radio Shack model 20-047.

 

[Nasby]

This is direct from page 3 of the owner's manual:


• Compatible with the following scanner models: 20-196, 20-427, 20-428, 20-466, 20-496, 20-515, 20-522, 20-523, 20-525, 20-526, and 20-527.

• When combined with the conversion cable, your cable is compatible with the following scanners: 20- 426, 20-501, and 20-524B.

• Allows scanning from newer laptops that do not have RS-232 serial interface ports.



Note that the PRO96 is the 20-526 mentioned in the first paragraph. The use of a conversion cable / pigtail adapter is not needed for programming.

However, in the second paragraph, the manual states that the conversion cable / pigtail adapter is compatible (needed) for a few of the older model scanners that are listed.

Not trying to argue with you. I just wanted to hopefully give the OP some helpful info.

 

[tvengr]

I use the Radio Shack 20-546 cable. This is from the Pro-96 Radio Reference Wiki: A cloning cable may be fabricated using 2 1/8 inch mono jacks and shielded cable. That would seem to indicate that the Pro-96 requires a mono plug.
Found this on the Scancat site:
OLDER SCANNERS SUCH AS THE PRO-95/96/97 REQUIRE THAT YOU USE THE MONO ADAPTOR
SUPPLIED WITH THIS NEW USB-TO-SERIAL ADAPTOR .
The mono adapter uses only the sleeve and tip connections from the stereo plug. There is no connection to the ring. It is quite possible that the cable would work on a Pro-96, but not the Pro-197. There could be a wire or driver problem associated with the ring which is required in the Pro-197. It has been my experience that the majority of problems are cable related, not electronic.

 

[gmclam]

The older scanners such as the PRO-96 used a mono connection and TX & RX were on the same wire. Newer GRE models such as PSR-500 use a stereo plug with RX & TX on separate wires. However, RX was always on the tip; and the newer cables will TX on both the tip and ring (making use of the adapter not needed for GRE models). The cables I use have LEDs for each TX & RX and you'll note that both light when sending to the scanner, but only one will light when the scanner is sending back.

Other than hard failures, the issue I've always seen when the PC can't receive from the scanner (with a functional cable, properly identified port, proper driver, etc) and WINXXX is some sort of "delay" within the software. I typically check the boxes to not verify reception, etc. I'm not next to a scanner right now where I can give specific details (perhaps I can over the weekend).