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blantonl

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Folks,

Let me draw an analogy here.

Let's say you have a wonderful sweet neighbor named "Betty," and she bakes the most awesome apple pies and sells them in the local community. You've faithfully purchased a slice of her pie once a week by walking over to her house and paying $1.00 for a slice. Betty, realizing that her pies are popular, decides to partner with a local food distributor in your town to distribute her pies to businesses that want to offer them for sale. But, at some point after trudging through the snow to Betty's house once a week to purchase a slices, you realize, "Hey, I eat at McDonald's every day for lunch, why can't I get a piece of Betty's pie there! It would be easier for me!"

So, you approach Betty and say, "Why don't you stock your pies at McDonald's?" And Betty replies, "I I've already setup a distribution channel that any vendor can use and it would be extremely difficult for me to go to McDonald's and try to negotiate another one since I'm extremely busy, well, baking the pies you enjoy. Why don't you ask McDonald's to contact our food supplier to stock the pies?"

In this case, if enough people ask McDonald's to stock Betty's pies, they will consider it.

Betty: RadioReference.com
Pies: Live Audio Feeds
Food Distributor: RR Live Audio API
McDonald's: [insert internet radio appliance here]
 

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Allow me (who often reads and seldom posts) to draw an analogy from another perspective. "Customers" of a grocery store ask "management" to include more tropical fruit in their produce department. "Management" tells the "customers" to express their desires directly to the food terminal vendors where the grocer buys his produce. Rather than investigating price, availability, or even considering feasibility himself, he sloughs off the issue back to the customers.
 

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I just discovered this thread, and I'm intrigued by the SqueezeBox - very cool.

That being said, here's an even simpler analogy.

RadioReference doesn't provide scanner programming software, either. But the market beared the need, and people like DonS and Gommert showed up, used the API, and then there were software choices.

The audio feeds are relatively new to this site. Give the market time to produce the plug-ins.

And yes, I get it - we want it NOW. Who wouldn't? But that's just the way the business model works.
 

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Allow me (who often reads and seldom posts) to draw an analogy from another perspective. "Customers" of a grocery store ask "management" to include more tropical fruit in their produce department. "Management" tells the "customers" to express their desires directly to the food terminal vendors where the grocer buys his produce. Rather than investigating price, availability, or even considering feasibility himself, he sloughs off the issue back to the customers.

Thanks Bill for your perspective :)

From what I read above, RadioReference.com is the food terminal vendor in this case and not the supermarket, since we develop and make the products (feeds, data etc) and then make them available to the market (the grocery stores in your analogy).

Thanks for helping me reinforce my point.
 

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Didn't read the long thread but I assume it talks about using a WiFi radio to listen to RR. I use a CC WiFi to listen to my feeds through Reciva and it works great. Unfortunately the ones hosted with ScannerCast have lots of distortion... I assume its a codec issue. Do not have the problem if the feed uses edcast. I also have a SMC Ez Stream and it does the job too. Not bad for a 30 dollar device! Hope this helps.
 
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That's quite a stretch on analogy interpretation, Lindsay. But if it works for you...
And RR doesn't make pies, either.

In my part of the country, the grocery stores make pies, sandwiches, and even complete meals. It is the current meaning of "supermarket" to do everything, not just sell raw materials or mildly processed foods.

I'm not sure about where a supermarket fits into the analogy, but it seems logical that RR.com as the direct provider of raw data as well as processed data is at least a grocery store. If, as a customer, I want my grocer or supermarket to add to its product line, their business model suggests that I take it up with the store management, not their suppliers. Then again, retail establishments have buyers, whose job it is to identify sources and procure product lines for the stores to resell. If a product that the customer desires does not exist, then expression of demand jumps the supply chain to the manufacturer, who would be requested to produce the desired item.

In the retail analogy, is RR.com a retail store, a distributor, a warehouse, or a manufacturer?
 
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Contrary to what you might think, I don't (cannot) read every thread posted in our user forums. This topic was pointed out to me late last week by our admin team and that's when I jumped in.

You are more than welcome to be disappointed with my attitude, and nitpick our benefits list and stretch to justify what you think we should do. And you are more than welcome to remind me who my customers are and that I don't know what I'm doing and the community is going to go down the tubes because I didn't accommodate the specific issue in this thread. However, when you get in a position to run and manage a business such as ours, you'll quickly learn to see items such as these as a forest and focus less on individual trees.



Here is a different point of view:


1. Put your customers first

Remember, your customers come to your store to get what they want. They believe you can help them. (Otherwise they would have gone somewhere else.) They have chosen you! Honor their choice by doing everything within your ability to help them. This means focusing your attention and efforts on discovering what they want and helping them get it. You put their interests and desires first. It means your sole motivation is helping them get what they came for.

2. Listen

When you begin talking with a customer, stop whatever else you are doing and focus on them. Make appropriate eye contact, listen, nod and show them you are paying attention. Some people take notes when listening, to ensure they get everything the customer is saying. Certainly you should ask questions to confirm and clarify that you understand. As you listen to your customer, don’t pre-judge what they’re saying. Keep your mind open so you hear everything. And remember, listening is a full-time job!

3. Have fun

This is SUPPOSED to be a fun time of year. But for many people it never is because of the stress they subject themselves to. You can help them get back to the fun of the season. Have fun by giving them an unexpected and positive experience. Enjoy your work and your co-workers and your customers. It’s not about goofing off or wasting time. But it IS about finding ways to bring fun and joy into your work and bringing your customers along for the ride.


4. Be flexible

Our goal is to help our customers get what they want, within our ability. So we always need to look for alternatives. We need to be creative. We need to think beyond the first solution that comes to mind when we’re working with our customers. Being flexible means offering customers more than one solution. By offering choices we’re making it more likely they’ll get what they want. There are few things worse than being a customers and someone says “that’s the only way you can do it”.

It also means being willing to try new things and go the extra mile for customers. It means being a problem solver rather than an order taker. Customers know the difference.

5. Make your customers smile

This is the most important thing you can do with your customers. If they are happy with your service they will come back. Note, this does not mean you do anything and everything to make your customers happy. You’re always limited by the resources and policies of your company. But it does mean you do everything within your ability to make them happy. Get creative and look for ways to give your customer a great experience.

6. Put Yourself In Their Shoes (PYITS)

Try to see things from your customer's perspective in as many ways as you can. Think about when you’re the customer. How do you feel and what do you want from people you buy from? What are the top three things you want from them? Most people want similar things like courtesy, helpful information, solutions (rather than dead-ends), a friendly smile, fair value and quick service.

What about when you’re angry or frustrated with a company or person you do business with? Think about the emotions you have in those situations. And consider your motivations too. What drives you in those interactions? What actions do you want from the people you do business with? How do you want them to resolve your complaints?

We all wear at least two hats. One is our “service” hat which we wear when we are serving others. Another is our “customer” hat. Keep both of them handy at all times as a reminder to put yourself in your customer’s shoes.

7. Be fast and friendly

The crowds, the weather and the stress of the holiday season can people’s patience. People are under pressure to get a lot done in a little time. Move as quickly as you can as you help people. Be as efficient as you can and show them you respect their time. But don't trade fast for friendly. You need to do both. Give your customers a warm smile and a sincere, friendly greeting and you'll help them have a better experience while they're in your store.

8. Help, don't sell

Don't push people to buy what you think they should buy. Remember, they came to you to accomplish something, not to help you make a sale. Your focus needs to be "how can you help them accomplish their goals". Keep this in mind as you help your customers and you'll find they'll be easier to work with and more likely to buy from you.

9. Be extra patient

Even though some shoppers might not show you any patience, you need to give them plenty. Do whatever you have to do to be extra patient with everyone. Pretend you're talking with your 83 year old grandmother. How would you treat her? Keep in mind the pressure and stress your customers are under. They might snap at you in frustration but you need to let it roll off like water off a duck's back. Be nice to everyone every time - no exceptions and no excuses!

10. Brainstorm with your team to offer your customers the best experience
 

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If that's the case, then maybe Lindsay should consider a path for paid members so they wouldn't have to deal with this.



The occassional URL changing on RR to a live audio source is indeed troublesome. I had to manual enter the set I was interested in, on to my Windows Mobile cell phone (Moto Q) and later in the day the links were all useless and gave errors.

Please work to provide a solution; I fully understand that RR wants to control 3rd party apps from individually creating products with no license back. But a personal end user should be able to save the audio URL link and have it work later.
 

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Folks,

I've received news that a developer has completed creating an application that will stream RadioReference's live audio feeds to the Logitech Squeezebox line of products. He is currently working through the official API licensing process right now.

Expect to see additional news and updates regarding this, including further possible announcements from the developer.

The ecosystem is working as intended....
 

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Excellent news and what us Squeezebox owners were hoping for. The Squeezebox Radio has quickly become an integral part of my shack (I have 2 of them). Like another Squeezebox owner has said, once the RR feeds are integrated into the Squeezebox.....it becomes a "Super Scanner" :)

Thanks for the update Lindsay! Keep us informed of how this progresses.
 

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Smart Move! This is where the future lies IMO, seems like the perfect and natural device to compliment the evolution of RR. Cant think of a better Scanning tool for the masses.

I think this will really take off! perhaps we could see RR badged Squeezbox's in the future.
 
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