This sounds like Iowa we have ISICS from Motorola and SARA from Racom (Harris)
DVINTHEHOUSEMAN
Up North
I believe they did. The EFJ system is definitely starting to show its age. Hoping the new Harris system will provide better coverage.
whop94
Member
That's how it looks to me as well!
Really a missed opportunity to have a robust statewide network like our neighbors, particularly ARMER and MPSCS. If we were like Michigan we would have everyone from Milwaukee Police to Florence County on the same network and the ability to use their radios seamlessly statewide, instead we have counties like Dane and Milwaukee that have completely independent P25 systems at the county and city levels in addition to WISCOM which is way underutilized.
wgbecks
Active Member
Exactly right! I had an opportunity to view a presentation on the new L3Harris system where it appears the state is only planning to build
enough new sites (towers) to cover the existing VHF footprint. It's sad that our state leadership is so incompetent! Worse yet, it's too late
now that many of the major counties and municipalities of the state have already built their P25 TRS systems or are looking at WiPSN.
Oa_Wrekt
Member
Hold up now.
WISCOM was created to be an interop tool across the state and only daily use for WSP and DNR. DNR decided in 2012 to stay on their own (politics) and build was essentially became a conventional WISCOM system. They stood tall in front of the Governor for that. Only when locals approached the state did the concept of local daily use become a thing on the current system and it's being embraced with better coverage for those locals with the new system. Maybe you missed that in the presentation? I certainly saw it in the presentation I had a chance to view.
This is a home-rule state and the locals can do whatever they want. The state is in absolutely no position to build an ARMER or MPSCS and hope that every county jumps on. That would be a monumental waste of taxpayer monies. The politics of many counties would end that thought before it started even if millions of grant dollars were dangled out there.
IMO, WiPSN is nothing more than /\/\ being mad they lost the WISCOM bid for a second time and still waging some shadow war because of it. If they want to consolidate their existing customers (who never were and never would have been WISCOM customers) into a "system of systems" then so be it.
lenk911
Member
Exactly correct. All you have to do is look at Texas (and other states) where the state has no exclusive/official state system but is fragmented with Harris (LCRA-San Antonio-Coastal-individual county systems, Motorola (Austin and TX Warn) and a few isolated Tait trunk systems. Not sure if ISSI's are in use to connect these disparate systems.
Economics (how many sites does a member have to locally add and their cost) is going to drive which system a user selects as much as marketing--which Motorola is a master at!
If I might correct a couple things;
"and only daily use for WSP and DNR" - Local/county (and federal) agencies were always a part of the WISCOM concept. The Statewide System Management Group that planned and implemented the system was largely made up of local/county representatives.
"The DNR decided ... to stay on their own (politics)" - Not politics but agency needs.
"essentially became a conventional WISCOM system" - Not really; it is P25 but is not trunked and primarily serves one agency.
"They stood tall in front of the Governor for that." - Nope.
"Only when locals approached the state did the concept of daily use become a thing" - No, see above.
There is some sort of patch up today on TG 4801, sounds like a University PD. It is not a Milwaukee area as one of the officers made a traffic stop at 6th/Central. Also mention of champion hall.
Tim
Tim
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