Woodstock - BearCom Canada/Oxford Comm 166.200 Hytera-XPT?

[jasoyeom]

I'm monitoring 166.200 which is part of the Bearcomm/Oxford Comm LTR system in Woodstock and this frequency is coming across as an XPT system.

Colour Code 5, Slot 2, XPT, TG 0 so far.

 

[Saint]

Down in Fort Erie I pick up this on the frequency
166.2000 CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION PEACE BRIDGE BUFFALO NY P25
Steve

 

[Forts]

It likely got upgraded from LTR to DMR... That frequency in the Woodstock area is licensed to Bearcom in London (previously Spectrum). Interesting that it's Hytera since they are a Motorola/Kenwood dealer.

 

[slicerwizard]

I'm monitoring 166.200 which is part of the Bearcomm/Oxford Comm LTR system in Woodstock and this frequency is coming across as an XPT system.

Colour Code 5, Slot 2, XPT, TG 0 so far.

I doubt that TG 0 is valid on any DMR system. Looks more like bad decoding, so without more evidence/data, I doubt it's XPT.

 

[Forts]

Ah good catch.... You are correct, 0 is not a valid talkgroup. That frequency is still listed as analog as well on TAFL, not that that means much.

 

[IdleMonitor]

I have a DMR system in my area that I`ve been trying to keep track of for the past few months. The only talkgroup confirmed on it was talkgroup 0

I doubt that TG 0 is valid on any DMR system. Looks more like bad decoding, so without more evidence/data, I doubt it's XPT.

 

[DaveH]

I have a DMR system in my area that I`ve been trying to keep track of for the past few months. The only talkgroup confirmed on it was talkgroup 0

Not to get too far OT but: which system, anything I could likely hear from Ottawa? In my logs, DSD+ has never decoded TG 0 .

Dave

 

[DaveH]

I'm monitoring 166.200 which is part of the Bearcomm/Oxford Comm LTR system in Woodstock and this frequency is coming across as an XPT system.

Colour Code 5, Slot 2, XPT, TG 0 so far.

If you turn off all decoding, what do you hear? XPT is like Cap+ but the "beacon" bursts are longer (in my limited experience
with them).
According to Hytera XPT Application Note , range of Group IDs is 1-255 (including emergency and all-call).

In ETSI DMR spec, TG=0 is not valid (it is called NULL).

Dave

 

[Forts]

And right from the CPS....

• XPT Private Call and XPT Alert Call: 1 - 65535
• XPT Group Call: 1 - 240
• XPT All Call: 255
• XPT Emergency Group Call: 250 - 254
• Dispatch Station ID: 65280 - 65535
• 241 - 249 are reserved.

 

[IdleMonitor]

It's the 164.415 frequency from Lavant Mountain that I've discussed before. I just realized that it is an NXDN Conventional, not DMR. I still only have 1 talkgroup logged for it and it's Talkgroup 0.

164.415 RAN 7 TG 0

Not to get too far OT but: which system, anything I could likely hear from Ottawa? In my logs, DSD+ has never decoded TG 0 .

Dave

 

[jasoyeom]

Here is the the audio 166.200

166-2000.mp3

drive.google.com

 

[Andy_SDS100]

Here is the the audio 166.200

166-2000.mp3

drive.google.com

i had mine on today didn't hear anything

 

[jasoyeom]

DSDPlus says:

XPT F000 DCC=5 CSBK PT Beacon

Network and site changes often:

Network 1664 Site 1664-213
Network 1666 Site 1666-73
Network 1670 Site 1670-69
Network 1664 Site 1664-153
etc etc

 

[slicerwizard]

Looks like garbage to me.

 

[DaveH]

It's the 164.415 frequency from Lavant Mountain that I've discussed before. I just realized that it is an NXDN Conventional, not DMR. I still only have 1 talkgroup logged for it and it's Talkgroup 0.

164.415 RAN 7 TG 0

Not sure I am always hearing the same as you on 164.415 but found note of NXDN 9.6k RAN 7
on that frequency, but no TG, just RIDs. NXDN conventional can be that way.

Looks like your scanner reports a dummy TG (0) when there isn't one; different from actual TG 0
if it is possible with NXDN.

Dave

 

[IdleMonitor]

That's the one. It's out of Lanark County somewhere.

Not sure I am always hearing the same as you on 164.415 but found note of NXDN 9.6k RAN 7
on that frequency, but no TG, just RIDs. NXDN conventional can be that way.

Looks like your scanner reports a dummy TG (0) when there isn't one; different from actual TG 0
if it is possible with NXDN.

Dave

 

[jasoyeom]

Looks like garbage to me.

You don't think it's valid data?

 

[Andy_SDS100]

I thought this was 166.200 were talking about here

 

[slicerwizard]

No, I do not think random network IDs and site numbers are valid data.

 

[mciupa]

I thought this was 166.200 were talking about here

It should be, but it is also about the vailidity of talkgroup 0 (zero)