first off I'm a bit of a newb with modern scanners I recently had to upgrade my 30+ year old bearcat because my local EMS finally upgraded to a digital system. So I got the Whistler ws1065. I programed it using RadioReference and ARC500 software (Dukes county MA is my location). So I can get it to scan, but it doesn't stop on any of the frequencies. I know there is traffic on those frequencies by listening on a scanner app on my phone. Adjusting the squelch seems to make no difference with the squelch all the way down I see the S symbol on the display for squelch, but I would think it would stop on a frequency and just be static but it does neither. The weather channel does work, so it does receive some stuff. one of the frequencies I programed was marine VHF channel 73 which is 156.675MHz we use this channel as our working channel at the boat yard I work at. So I did verify that the scanner does stop on that frequency when I key the mic on my handheld marine VHF radio. So it only seems to be the EMS frequencies that I downloaded that don't work. I don't know if I did something wrong, or I just got a lemon unit, which I"m learning is not uncommon with this unit. any help appreciated
ws1065 scans but won't receive
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Hi & welcome to the RR forums! The only EMS frequency for your county in the database still shows analog & I'm not seeing any talkgroups for your county here so if they did indeed go digital then no one submitted an update so the current info can be reflected in the DB. This may be why your scanner won't track it as ARC500 relies on the accuracy of the database to pull its info
158.79000 WNMJ229 BM91.5 PLDukes EMS 229Dukes Co Ambulance (229) FMN EMS Dispatch
If you don't get the answer you're looking for in this forum I'd recommend clicking the "Report" link at the bottom of your posting and asking for this thread to be moved to the Massachusetts Discussion Forum where you may find someone familiar with where your county currently operates
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Thank you for getting back. I guess that is one of the things I'm having a hard time understanding being new to this when I got frequencies from RR and put them in ARC500 I did have a column for SQ mode and SQ code. here is a all the info I have that I copied and pasted from ARC500
154.325000 Dukes Cty FD -1 CTCSS 91.5
151.482500 Dukes Cty PD2 -1 P25 860
158.865000 Dukes 955 -1 CTCSS 91.5
159.150000 Dukes 229 -1 CTCSS 91.5
158.940000 Dukes 404 -1 CTCSS 91.5
147.345000 KB1QL Tis2M -1 CTCSS 88.5
156.217500 Dukes Cty PD -1 P25 10
155.437500 Dukes Cty FD Ops -1 P25 252
154.032500 Edgartown FD -1 CTCSS 114.8
33.420000 OakBluffs FD -1 CTCSS 173.8
154.122500 Dukes Cty FD -1 DCS 115
158.790000 Dukes EMS 229 -1 CTCSS 91.5
158.955000 OakBluffs PD -1 CTCSS 91.5
155.722500 Dukes Cty FD-TB -1 P25 229
33.460000 WTisbury FD -1 CTCSS 173.8
33.760000 Dukes FD LB -1 CTCSS 173.8
The -1 is the scan list these frequencies are in. They automatically got put in a convention object list. Do I need to put them in a talk group? like I said before the ws1065 does seem to scan through all these frequencies, but doesn't stop on any even when I know there is traffic on them.
Assuming they're still using 158.790 for EMS ops, I'd set squelch mode here to "search" to determine if they went to P25. NAC code should then be revealed and hopefully you'll be able to hear traffic again
I'm having the same issue up here in Pennsylvania.
N8IAA
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In the RR database, 154.1225 and 154.3250 have a notation of Simulcast. So, they are linked to some other system. That's why it's important to ask in your state forum.
That's not what this means in this case. It simply means there is more than one repeater transmitting the same traffic on the same frequencies. Taking a look here we see that 154.1225 is simulcast at 5 different sites around the county & here we see 154.325 across 3 sites. So yes, simulcast conventional frequencies do exist though they're less common than simulcast trunking sites
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Yes Weather stations work. Conventional frequencies work. None of the Trunked frequencies work.
Your take?
tvengr
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Which trunked frequencies are you speaking of? Everything in Dukes County shows being conventional. Which trunked systems are you trying to monitor? MA State Police? CoMIRS?
Hello Tvengr!
Thank you for your reply.
As I first mentioned, I am up here in Pennsylvania. The Trunked frequencies that I have tried are for Clearfield County, Elk County, and Jefferson County.
Also the Pennsylvania State Police statewide. None of these Trunked Frequencies had a hit.
Thank you for your reply.
As I first mentioned, I am up here in Pennsylvania. The Trunked frequencies that I have tried are for Clearfield County, Elk County, and Jefferson County.
Also the Pennsylvania State Police statewide. None of these Trunked Frequencies had a hit.
tvengr
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Sorry, that reply was meant for crea696. State Police in PA are fully encrypted and cannot be received by any scanner. For the most part, everything in Clearfield, Elk, and Jefferson Counties is conventional. I see a LTR trunked system in Clearfield County for DuBois area schools. What scanner and programming software are you using? The PA statewide system is entirely P25 Phase 2. The WS1065 and similar scanners cannot decode Phase 2. They can only receive P25 Phase 1. If you look at the Mode column in the database, D is Phase 1 and T (TDMA) is Phase 2. DE and TE are fully encrypted and cannot be received. De and Te are encrypted part of the time.
Thank you Tvengr!!!
That totally explains it!!!!
The mismatch between the 1065 being Phase I, and the P25 System in Pennsylvania being Phase II is definitely the issue. That would explain NO HITS on the digital system.
I think at this point I will need to revert back to the Conventional Frequencies to move forward.
Aĺl of this is new to me. My 92 year old neighbor bought the Whistler 1065 to replace her old scanner, which gave up the ghost. She called me and asked me if I could program it for her, so I jumped into it, with both feet, very well knowing that I was in over my head, and it was going to be a learning curve that goes completely vertical!!!
I bought a subscription on RadioReference.com, and download PSREdit500. With those tools, I could very easily program the unit, but noticed that any P25 frequencies were not hitting. The mismatch totally explains it. I can't thank you enough for bringing that to light. It's always the most obvious that reaches out and bites ya! Thanks again!!! All the best in 2022!!!
wf
That totally explains it!!!!
The mismatch between the 1065 being Phase I, and the P25 System in Pennsylvania being Phase II is definitely the issue. That would explain NO HITS on the digital system.
I think at this point I will need to revert back to the Conventional Frequencies to move forward.
Aĺl of this is new to me. My 92 year old neighbor bought the Whistler 1065 to replace her old scanner, which gave up the ghost. She called me and asked me if I could program it for her, so I jumped into it, with both feet, very well knowing that I was in over my head, and it was going to be a learning curve that goes completely vertical!!!
I bought a subscription on RadioReference.com, and download PSREdit500. With those tools, I could very easily program the unit, but noticed that any P25 frequencies were not hitting. The mismatch totally explains it. I can't thank you enough for bringing that to light. It's always the most obvious that reaches out and bites ya! Thanks again!!! All the best in 2022!!!
wf
tvengr
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You and I have something in common.... We're not afraid of the learning curve.
Whistler has made it easy with the use of EPROMs in their circuitry, which allows their units to be programed with the use of computer software. Engineering at its best!!!
I contacted my neighbor. She actually has a list of the Conventional Frequencies that were programed into her previous scanner, so I'm going to pay her a little visit, take a picture of her frequency list, and get busy bringing her new scanner to life.
Thanks again for your help and allowing me to tap into your expertise!
If you ever get a chance, come out here to Elk County Pennsylvania, and experience nature at its best with our wild population of Elk that roam the area. I would be glad to show you around.
Check out this link: https://elkcountryvisitorcenter.com/
Thanks again!!!
wf
Whistler has made it easy with the use of EPROMs in their circuitry, which allows their units to be programed with the use of computer software. Engineering at its best!!!
I contacted my neighbor. She actually has a list of the Conventional Frequencies that were programed into her previous scanner, so I'm going to pay her a little visit, take a picture of her frequency list, and get busy bringing her new scanner to life.
Thanks again for your help and allowing me to tap into your expertise!
If you ever get a chance, come out here to Elk County Pennsylvania, and experience nature at its best with our wild population of Elk that roam the area. I would be glad to show you around.
Check out this link: https://elkcountryvisitorcenter.com/
Thanks again!!!
wf
When you get a little higher on that curve, if you haven't already, take a good look at your DB. Just glancing through it I found a number of things.
You have a number of licenses that are expired.
Some of the newer active licenses(found by doing an FRN search) are displaying DMR designators such as 7K60FXE.
You may want to invest in a DMR capable scanner as some of these are Public Safety related, such as Fire and Pd. I have had a number of DMR sites come online near me lately. I also looked for P25 and NXDN but only found a handful of DMR sites.
I can use a little help setting the active scan lists on my Whistler 1065. Setting the active scan list numbers 1 thru 10 is easy. While in the scan mode, select the number of the scan list that you want active, and it show up in the scan list. To set the active scan list numbers 11 thru 19, Select the FUNCTION Key then the numbers 1 thru 9 and that will give 11 thru 19. My question is how do you activate scan list 20???
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