WS1065 Simulcast

[MASONROBERSONMR]

I somewhat under stand the whole issue with the WS1065 and the simulcasting issues. I'm wanting to monitor a Phase I trunking, 10 tower system. I live slightly over into the next county. They have 1 tower just NW of my location but the county is SW of my location. From my house I dont even pick up and thing on any of their trucking frequencies not even the digital sounds on analog. Is that because of over loading or what? I programmed the 10 freqs. They use on each tower into analog on my 1065 and never pick up and digital noise ever. Today I drove up to the tower that I'm trying to pick up from the one that's in my county but for the next county over I'm wanting to hear. It's about 15 mins 9 miles from my house and NW like I said from my house. When I get about 4 miles from the tower site I start hearing them decent. But at my house even listening to them on analog never ever hear anything like said not even the digital noise. Would a yagi directional antenna be the solve to my issues if I point it directly at the tower I want to hear. My concern is would I magically start hearing them if i conntected a yagi. Because at the current moment in time. From my house I hear nothing. My scanner acts like the system doesnt even exists.

 

[Wackyracer]

A yagi style antenna would be a great next step IMO, Also make sure your squelch is all the way open (CCW).

 

[MASONROBERSONMR]

I'll do that in the AM. It seems even conntected to my roof antenna even though it's a 153Mhz J pole I should still pick up something but it's dead air.

 

[Ubbe]

Use this tool and check if you have something blocking the signal path. https://www.scadacore.com/tools/rf-path/rf-line-of-sight/

If you suspect overload or interference problems then open squelch fully in analog mode and move the scanner around in different angles and point the antenna in different directions to see if you suddenly hear the signal. The most attenuation of a signal are from the direction where the antenna points. In normal use it would be straight up in the sky but when testing hold the antenna horisontal and move it a full circle around you.

/Ubbe

 

[MASONROBERSONMR]

Nothing blocking my signal per that website.

 

[MASONROBERSONMR]

There is a cell tower less than 500ft away could that have something to do with me not hearing anything?

 

[Casey]

I HAD this scanner and the previous branded GRE Model that looked the same...slowly year after year the performance got worse on my in-coverage county P25 simulcast...I don't think the units had anything wrong with them but cell towers were added not too far away and the the P25 system was upgraded to Phase II (no P2 talkgroups though) or something changed and I started getting terrible performance on certain 800 frequencies in the rotation. I purchased a non Whistler non Uniden model and everything has been great...sold the rest.

 

[MASONROBERSONMR]

When I put my scanner antenna in the floor under my metal safe I dont hear traffic but I see the control (T) come up a lot on my scanner... but anywhere else I get nothing. Just up the road I hear them terribly because of the distortion. I'll get a yagi by the end of this week and try it out. Hopefully that will ignore everything but that one tower.

 

[MASONROBERSONMR]

I got some tin foil and put my antenna in the floor and i now hear an occasional clear "10-4" and bits of traffic. I think a yagi is what I'm going to get at this point.

 

[Ubbe]

Yes, a high directional yagi would probably be a good solution but remember that you will need to attenuate the signal so the other towers are not interfering and that the cell tower doesn't overload the scanner and totally blocking reception. Whenever you use an external antenna you should always have a variable attenuator to set the correct signal level where the scanner operates at its optimum.

/Ubbe

Something like this one but preferable from US: https://www.fishpond.com/Electronic...uator-20DB-with-DC-Pass-Through/5412810093977

 

[TailGator911]

I am in a vortex of RF interference where I am located, just a mile or so from the main gate of a major military base and my local PD/Fire is on the MARCS Ohio system. After much experimentation I decided on a directional yagi pointed at my system's tower by the Nutter Center arena complex. I use that for local public safety monitoring and it works great. I run coax into a multi-coupler and have lines out to my WS-1065, BCD536HP, Pro-2006, and a TRX-1. I also have a discone on the roof for wide coverage. The yagi is the way to go if you need to focus on a certain tower/transmitter in a simulcast system.

 

[MASONROBERSONMR]

Yeah it seems that at my house which is right across from my house literally. I dont pick up anything but when it's under my safe with tin foil around the antenna I hear an occasional 10-4. Just to clarify what do I need to do

 

[wtp]

mason

i sent an e-mail and a personal message with some thoughts and a re-cap.