Austin4Wyo
Member
Have managed to catch MS142 out of Laramie today on TG 600. Confused the hell out of me for a bit until just a minute ago, because I've been running Laramie's local stuff on my old BC80XLT since Laramie's stuff has all been conventional. However, earlier today, my WILDCARD picked up TG 600, and just heard the Laramie dispatcher and MS142 report that they had arrived at Ivinson Hospital. Anyone know if this is permanent?
I'll be keeping an ear out for any other Laramie local traffic on WyoLink.
EDIT: Okay, so it appears that it's currently simulcasting on WyoLink on TG 600 and on the old conventional channel. Dunno if it's only for EMS, or for all the Fire traffic on Fire 1.
I'll be keeping an ear out for any other Laramie local traffic on WyoLink.
EDIT: Okay, so it appears that it's currently simulcasting on WyoLink on TG 600 and on the old conventional channel. Dunno if it's only for EMS, or for all the Fire traffic on Fire 1.
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Please submit these TGs for the DB once you become reasonably certain of their use.
Austin4Wyo
Member
Been getting hits on TG400 today that sound like Sweetwater County SO. I've linked to an audio recording that I grabbed over about the last hour.
Can anyone confirm this?
TG400.WAV - 8 min. 17 sec., 95 KB.
Can anyone confirm this?
TG400.WAV - 8 min. 17 sec., 95 KB.
W7LES
Member
Local non-State talkgroups
What you are seeing is Local non-State talkgroups.
It came to my attention the other day that the PSCC has adopted a standardized allocation plan for talkgroup assignments to local agencies. The allocation plan is based on the 23 Counties in the state, which are numbered in order of population. For each County, a range of 100 talkgroup numbers are reserved, with the first 2 digits of the talkgroup number matching the County number. Example: Sweetwater County is County number 4, or 04. The talkgroup numbers for local agencies in Sweetwater County will be drawn from the allocation plan pool where the first 2 digits are 04 and the last 2 digits will start with 00 and go up to 99. Therefore, any talkgroup number from 0400 to 0499 will be used by a local agency in Sweetwater. Depending on the scanner, the displayed number may have an additional leading zero, making the Sweetwater talkgroup range read out as 00400 to 00499.
County talkgroup number allocation plan
Layout is:
County number
County name
County Seat city
Talkgroup number range
1
Natrona
Casper
0100-0199
2
Laramie
Cheyenne
0200-0299
3
Sheridan
Sheridan
0300-0399
4
Sweetwater
Green River
0400-0499
5
Albany
Laramie
0500-0599
6
Carbon
Rawlins
0600-0699
7
Goshen
Torrington
0700-0799
8
Platte
Wheatland
0800-0899
9
Big Horn
Basin
0900-0999
10
Fremont
Lander
1000-1099
11
Park
Cody
1100-1199
12
Lincoln
Kemmerer
1200-1299
13
Converse
Douglas
1300-1399
14
Niobrara
Lusk
1400-1499
15
Hot Springs
Thermopolis
1500-1599
16
Johnson
Buffalo
1600-1699
17
Campbell
Gillette
1700-1799
18
Crook
Sundance
1800-1899
19
Uinta
Evanston
1900-1999
20
Washakie
Worland
2000-2099
21
Weston
Newcastle
2100-2199
22
Teton
Jackson
2200-2299
23
Sublette
Pinedale
2300-2399
The County number is also used on most Wyoming license plates, displayed to the left of “Steamboat” the bucking horse logo.
A number of the Multiple Agency Talkgroups - MATs - were assigned early on in the 0100-0199 range, which under the PSCC allocation plan is reserved for Natrona County. Haven’t heard if there are any plans to move the MATs or just leave them where they are.
I do not have any info on how the local agencies are assigning & using their allocated talkgroups internally.
Larry
What you are seeing is Local non-State talkgroups.
It came to my attention the other day that the PSCC has adopted a standardized allocation plan for talkgroup assignments to local agencies. The allocation plan is based on the 23 Counties in the state, which are numbered in order of population. For each County, a range of 100 talkgroup numbers are reserved, with the first 2 digits of the talkgroup number matching the County number. Example: Sweetwater County is County number 4, or 04. The talkgroup numbers for local agencies in Sweetwater County will be drawn from the allocation plan pool where the first 2 digits are 04 and the last 2 digits will start with 00 and go up to 99. Therefore, any talkgroup number from 0400 to 0499 will be used by a local agency in Sweetwater. Depending on the scanner, the displayed number may have an additional leading zero, making the Sweetwater talkgroup range read out as 00400 to 00499.
County talkgroup number allocation plan
Layout is:
County number
County name
County Seat city
Talkgroup number range
1
Natrona
Casper
0100-0199
2
Laramie
Cheyenne
0200-0299
3
Sheridan
Sheridan
0300-0399
4
Sweetwater
Green River
0400-0499
5
Albany
Laramie
0500-0599
6
Carbon
Rawlins
0600-0699
7
Goshen
Torrington
0700-0799
8
Platte
Wheatland
0800-0899
9
Big Horn
Basin
0900-0999
10
Fremont
Lander
1000-1099
11
Park
Cody
1100-1199
12
Lincoln
Kemmerer
1200-1299
13
Converse
Douglas
1300-1399
14
Niobrara
Lusk
1400-1499
15
Hot Springs
Thermopolis
1500-1599
16
Johnson
Buffalo
1600-1699
17
Campbell
Gillette
1700-1799
18
Crook
Sundance
1800-1899
19
Uinta
Evanston
1900-1999
20
Washakie
Worland
2000-2099
21
Weston
Newcastle
2100-2199
22
Teton
Jackson
2200-2299
23
Sublette
Pinedale
2300-2399
The County number is also used on most Wyoming license plates, displayed to the left of “Steamboat” the bucking horse logo.
A number of the Multiple Agency Talkgroups - MATs - were assigned early on in the 0100-0199 range, which under the PSCC allocation plan is reserved for Natrona County. Haven’t heard if there are any plans to move the MATs or just leave them where they are.
I do not have any info on how the local agencies are assigning & using their allocated talkgroups internally.
Larry
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3mary2
Member
I was in Wyoming for the past five days and my PSR500 set the following table to the scanner.
0 4095 0 851.006250 6.250
4096 8191 4096 762.006250 6.250
8192 12287 8192 150.992500 2.500
12288 16383 12288 140.777500 5.000
16384 20479 16384 146.775000 5.000
20480 24575 20480 153.527500 5.000
24576 28671 24576 149.370000 5.000
28672 32767 28672 136.000000 12.500
I was able to hear Unita in Worland, like they were sitting in the seat next to me. Here is the only talkgroups I got hits on. 6378 =25 400= 32 19902=1 and 13720=42 Next task is to cut the Id's in each system. I think I have too many. Bare in mind most of these hits were probably recieved in only four hours of listening and not really paying attention. I think once the Wyo-Link system is up and running you will have a really good system state wide. Here in Vegas they are going to Desert Sky (Open Sky) so we will loose Las Vegas Metropolitan Police, but still have alot of other things to listen to. Hope the above table helps someone.
0 4095 0 851.006250 6.250
4096 8191 4096 762.006250 6.250
8192 12287 8192 150.992500 2.500
12288 16383 12288 140.777500 5.000
16384 20479 16384 146.775000 5.000
20480 24575 20480 153.527500 5.000
24576 28671 24576 149.370000 5.000
28672 32767 28672 136.000000 12.500
I was able to hear Unita in Worland, like they were sitting in the seat next to me. Here is the only talkgroups I got hits on. 6378 =25 400= 32 19902=1 and 13720=42 Next task is to cut the Id's in each system. I think I have too many. Bare in mind most of these hits were probably recieved in only four hours of listening and not really paying attention. I think once the Wyo-Link system is up and running you will have a really good system state wide. Here in Vegas they are going to Desert Sky (Open Sky) so we will loose Las Vegas Metropolitan Police, but still have alot of other things to listen to. Hope the above table helps someone.
W7LES
Member
The Wyoming SALECS system on WyoLink
The Wyoming SALECS system on WyoLink
The State (or maybe Shared) Agency Law Enforcement Communications System – SALECS – is an interesting setup, quite unlike anything else I’d seen in my 38 years in public-safety communications career. What do you do when you have a need for 24/7/365 dispatch service across a very large area (98,000 square miles) for a relatively small number (4 to 20 or 30) of officers, in each of several agencies? Consider the fact that in order to staff each dispatch position around the clock – taking into account holidays, vacations, sick time, etc – you have to hire about 4.6 full time employees (FTE’s). Might as well round it up - 5 full time people for every dispatch position. A daunting challenge for a small agency. And that’s just the dispatcher – next, you have to build a statewide radio channel for them to use, too.
SALECS was developed to solve this problem – that the smaller agencies other than WYDOT or WHP could not afford to run a full time dispatch center and statewide radio channel for themselves. In exchange for a small monthly service fee per radio, SALECS provides a dedicated dispatch position at the WHP dispatch center to serve the needs of the small agencies that have police powers – game & fish, state parks, state brand inspectors, etc. The fees also offset the costs to build and maintain the statewide conventional analog SALECS VHF repeater system. The SALECS system of 26 repeaters all on the 155.640 channel thus serves as the main dispatch channel for the agencies, most of whom also have their own separate VHF simplex working and TAC frequencies.
When the SALECS system began planning for the switch to WyoLink, it was decided to set up a regional layout for dispatching. The former single analog channel with everyone on it gave way to dispatch regions with individual talkgroups.
Format of the talkgroup listings:
Talkgroup label
Talkgroup hex
Talkgroup decimal
General area
Counties in area
SALECS 1
4dbc
19900
North & North-east
Crook, Weston, Campbell, Johnson, Sheridan
SALECS 2
4dbd
19901
Central & East
Natrona, Converse, Niobrara
SALECS 3
1900
6400
South-east
Goshen, Platte, Laramie, SE Albany
SALECS 4
1901
6401
South Central
NW Albany, Carbon, E Sweetwater
SALECS 5
1902
6402
South-west
W Sweetwater, Uinta, S Lincoln
SALECS 6
1903
6403
West Central
Sublette, N Lincoln, Teton
SALECS 7
4dbe
19902
North & North-west
Big Horn, Hot Springs, Park, Washakie,
SALECS 8
4dbf
19903
West Central
Fremont
SALECS 9
1904
6404
Statewide Tac 1
SALECS 10
1905
6405
Statewide Tac 2
SALECS 11
1906
6406
Statewide Tac 3
The agencies that use SALECS talkgroups for dispatch service also have their own internal talkgroups for “shop business”. I do not have much of any info on how these agencies are assigning & using their allocated talkgroups internally.
Regards,
Larry
The Wyoming SALECS system on WyoLink
The State (or maybe Shared) Agency Law Enforcement Communications System – SALECS – is an interesting setup, quite unlike anything else I’d seen in my 38 years in public-safety communications career. What do you do when you have a need for 24/7/365 dispatch service across a very large area (98,000 square miles) for a relatively small number (4 to 20 or 30) of officers, in each of several agencies? Consider the fact that in order to staff each dispatch position around the clock – taking into account holidays, vacations, sick time, etc – you have to hire about 4.6 full time employees (FTE’s). Might as well round it up - 5 full time people for every dispatch position. A daunting challenge for a small agency. And that’s just the dispatcher – next, you have to build a statewide radio channel for them to use, too.
SALECS was developed to solve this problem – that the smaller agencies other than WYDOT or WHP could not afford to run a full time dispatch center and statewide radio channel for themselves. In exchange for a small monthly service fee per radio, SALECS provides a dedicated dispatch position at the WHP dispatch center to serve the needs of the small agencies that have police powers – game & fish, state parks, state brand inspectors, etc. The fees also offset the costs to build and maintain the statewide conventional analog SALECS VHF repeater system. The SALECS system of 26 repeaters all on the 155.640 channel thus serves as the main dispatch channel for the agencies, most of whom also have their own separate VHF simplex working and TAC frequencies.
When the SALECS system began planning for the switch to WyoLink, it was decided to set up a regional layout for dispatching. The former single analog channel with everyone on it gave way to dispatch regions with individual talkgroups.
Format of the talkgroup listings:
Talkgroup label
Talkgroup hex
Talkgroup decimal
General area
Counties in area
SALECS 1
4dbc
19900
North & North-east
Crook, Weston, Campbell, Johnson, Sheridan
SALECS 2
4dbd
19901
Central & East
Natrona, Converse, Niobrara
SALECS 3
1900
6400
South-east
Goshen, Platte, Laramie, SE Albany
SALECS 4
1901
6401
South Central
NW Albany, Carbon, E Sweetwater
SALECS 5
1902
6402
South-west
W Sweetwater, Uinta, S Lincoln
SALECS 6
1903
6403
West Central
Sublette, N Lincoln, Teton
SALECS 7
4dbe
19902
North & North-west
Big Horn, Hot Springs, Park, Washakie,
SALECS 8
4dbf
19903
West Central
Fremont
SALECS 9
1904
6404
Statewide Tac 1
SALECS 10
1905
6405
Statewide Tac 2
SALECS 11
1906
6406
Statewide Tac 3
The agencies that use SALECS talkgroups for dispatch service also have their own internal talkgroups for “shop business”. I do not have much of any info on how these agencies are assigning & using their allocated talkgroups internally.
Regards,
Larry
Multi-table settings - need clarification
Thank goodness my primary radio is a Pro-197. Much easier to program this system.
But for practice I'm trying to program a Pro-96. The database shows multi-table settings which is great.
I'm using Win96. Planning on passing thru Cheyenne (Laramie county) up to Glendo (Platte county). I've figured out the towers I need from the map. I can't test anything before making the trip. (Added: Download from RR didn't bring in any trunking tables.)
Questions:
1. Win96 has multi-tables for 9600 or 3600 (baud? bit rate?) control channels. Which choice do I make? (I'd guess 9600 but could be wrong)
2. The database shows updates for pro-96 tables 2 and 3 in the latest news update. Below that is an un numbered VHF multitable for Pro-96. Then below that appear 8 more trunking multitables. So..... which of the 11 tables presented are valid for Pro-96/2096? If I know my towers, is there a way to use just a subset of the trunking tables?
3. I'm thinking that it might be a good idea to separate the 800Mhz system/table/program from the rest. Or is that a waste of time once I get all the multi-tables entered?
Thanks for the help!
Thank goodness my primary radio is a Pro-197. Much easier to program this system.
But for practice I'm trying to program a Pro-96. The database shows multi-table settings which is great.
I'm using Win96. Planning on passing thru Cheyenne (Laramie county) up to Glendo (Platte county). I've figured out the towers I need from the map. I can't test anything before making the trip. (Added: Download from RR didn't bring in any trunking tables.)
Questions:
1. Win96 has multi-tables for 9600 or 3600 (baud? bit rate?) control channels. Which choice do I make? (I'd guess 9600 but could be wrong)
2. The database shows updates for pro-96 tables 2 and 3 in the latest news update. Below that is an un numbered VHF multitable for Pro-96. Then below that appear 8 more trunking multitables. So..... which of the 11 tables presented are valid for Pro-96/2096? If I know my towers, is there a way to use just a subset of the trunking tables?
3. I'm thinking that it might be a good idea to separate the 800Mhz system/table/program from the rest. Or is that a waste of time once I get all the multi-tables entered?
Thanks for the help!
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WyoWabbit
Member
The eight multi-tables listed as ID-0 through ID-7 are what need to be programmed.
The tables above these were not erased when the 8 multi-table info was added.
WyoLink uses a 9600 baud control channel.
The PRO-96 can only program up to 6 multi-tables (bummer!)
Hope this helps. Tom
The tables above these were not erased when the 8 multi-table info was added.
WyoLink uses a 9600 baud control channel.
The PRO-96 can only program up to 6 multi-tables (bummer!)
Hope this helps. Tom
That helps a great deal. Thanks!
Any idea how to choose which 6 of the multi tables to use?
Obviously the 800Mhz one for an 800Mhz tower (which suggests a separate system for that one).. but do we have info about which table applies to which tower? My most important tower would be Pine Ridge if that helps narrow the field.
Hmm, if I separate the 800 Mhz table and don't program the 762 Mhz table (Pro-96 doesn't do 700 Mhz) that leaves me 6..... so maybe I'm ok.
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WyoWabbit
Member
The last two multi-tables (ID 06 and ID 07) were added quite some time after the first ones. Suggesting (to me) that they are for federal agencies. I have yet to figure out if the tables HAVE TO BE in order, and all used, for the scanner to properly follow the trunking. I guess it's time to get a PRO-106/PRO-197 (they both can have up to 16 multi-tables). P.S. Check your Win96 program, on the main screen it has a box to select for extended frequencies. This opens up the 700 MHz (764 + actually).
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I agree the ranges of the final two look like Fed systems.
Will find out about tables in order and complete in a couple of weeks when I try the program. If it works we're good. If it doesn't - well, I have my Pro-197 to listen to
(too bad for Charles)I programmed the 800 & 762 Mhz tables in a bank with just the Cheyenne 800Mhz CC. Since the channels on that tower are still in the 800 range the extended freqs aren't necessary. The 762Mhz table is just a placeholder. (I hope). The extended freqs are outside the design passband so are pretty deaf. I've tried it here at work where I'm line of sight to a 700 Mhz tower.
I put the other 6 tables into a bank with the other 5 towers I'll be using. Hope it works.
I guess I'll let you know if it does since we will have learned some things about coping with the Pro-96 and the Wyoming system.
WyoWabbit
Member
Well...what do you know!?!?!? Using ONLY ID's 02-07 works just fine!!! Thank you so very much! Tom
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W7LES
Member
Local non-State talkgroups – revised & corrected – replaces post #105
Local non-State talkgroups – revised & corrected – replaces post #105
It came to my attention the other day that the PSCC has adopted a standardized allocation plan for talkgroup assignments to local agencies. The allocation plan is based on the 23 Counties in the state, which are numbered in order of population. For each County, a range of 200 talkgroup numbers are reserved. The talkgroup numbers for local agencies in Sheridan County will be drawn from the Sheridan allocation pool in the range of 13300 to and including 13499. Therefore, any talkgroup number from 13300 to 13499 will be used by a local agency in Sheridan County. Depending on the scanner, the displayed number may have an additional leading zero, making the Sheridan talkgroup range read out as 013300 to 013499.
County talkgroup number allocation plan
Layout is:
County number
County name
County Seat city
Talkgroup number range
1
Natrona
Casper
13100-13299
2
Laramie
Cheyenne
0200-0399
3
Sheridan
Sheridan
13300-13499
4
Sweetwater
Green River
0400-0507, 0512-0599
5
Albany
Laramie
0600-0799
6
Carbon
Rawlins
0800-0999
7
Goshen
Torrington
1000-1199
8
Platte
Wheatland
1200-1399
9
Big Horn
Basin
13500-13699
10
Fremont
Lander
13700-13899
11
Park
Cody
13900-14099
12
Lincoln
Kemmerer
1400-1599
13
Converse
Douglas
14100-14299
14
Niobrara
Lusk
14300-14499
15
Hot Springs
Thermopolis
14500-14699
16
Johnson
Buffalo
14700-14899
17
Campbell
Gillette
14900-15099
18
Crook
Sundance
15100-15299
19
Uinta
Evanston
1600-1799
20
Washakie
Worland
15300-15499
21
Weston
Newcastle
15500-15699
22
Teton
Jackson
1800-1999
23
Sublette
Pinedale
2000-2199
The County number is also used on most Wyoming license plates, displayed to the left of “Steamboat” the bucking horse logo.
I do not have any info on how the local agencies are assigning & using their allocated talkgroups internally.
Post #105 was compiled from an earlier, superceded assignment list and may be deleted by a Moderator
Larry
Local non-State talkgroups – revised & corrected – replaces post #105
It came to my attention the other day that the PSCC has adopted a standardized allocation plan for talkgroup assignments to local agencies. The allocation plan is based on the 23 Counties in the state, which are numbered in order of population. For each County, a range of 200 talkgroup numbers are reserved. The talkgroup numbers for local agencies in Sheridan County will be drawn from the Sheridan allocation pool in the range of 13300 to and including 13499. Therefore, any talkgroup number from 13300 to 13499 will be used by a local agency in Sheridan County. Depending on the scanner, the displayed number may have an additional leading zero, making the Sheridan talkgroup range read out as 013300 to 013499.
County talkgroup number allocation plan
Layout is:
County number
County name
County Seat city
Talkgroup number range
1
Natrona
Casper
13100-13299
2
Laramie
Cheyenne
0200-0399
3
Sheridan
Sheridan
13300-13499
4
Sweetwater
Green River
0400-0507, 0512-0599
5
Albany
Laramie
0600-0799
6
Carbon
Rawlins
0800-0999
7
Goshen
Torrington
1000-1199
8
Platte
Wheatland
1200-1399
9
Big Horn
Basin
13500-13699
10
Fremont
Lander
13700-13899
11
Park
Cody
13900-14099
12
Lincoln
Kemmerer
1400-1599
13
Converse
Douglas
14100-14299
14
Niobrara
Lusk
14300-14499
15
Hot Springs
Thermopolis
14500-14699
16
Johnson
Buffalo
14700-14899
17
Campbell
Gillette
14900-15099
18
Crook
Sundance
15100-15299
19
Uinta
Evanston
1600-1799
20
Washakie
Worland
15300-15499
21
Weston
Newcastle
15500-15699
22
Teton
Jackson
1800-1999
23
Sublette
Pinedale
2000-2199
The County number is also used on most Wyoming license plates, displayed to the left of “Steamboat” the bucking horse logo.
I do not have any info on how the local agencies are assigning & using their allocated talkgroups internally.
Post #105 was compiled from an earlier, superceded assignment list and may be deleted by a Moderator
Larry
Three Mile Hill Site active
New map out from Wyolink, and they indicate that Three Mile Hill near Meeteese is now on the air.
New map out from Wyolink, and they indicate that Three Mile Hill near Meeteese is now on the air.
Wyolink Map
Can someone post the site where I can get the updated Wyolink map.
Can someone post the site where I can get the updated Wyolink map.
WyoWabbit
Member
This official site still has the January 13, 2010 map. So, where is the NEW one? Tom
