XPR 7550e Is it difficult to program to send messages via Analog?

[Beowolfs]

Sending messages to contacts via Digital was fairly simple to program in CPS2.
However, I can't seem to do the same via Analog. I'm pretty sure it uses MDC system to transmit the signal, but other then that... I dont know what the setting to use in CPS.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Alex

 

[K2NEC]

You can do a call alert on a radio but there is no way to send a text on analog on any radio that I'm aware of. Text messaging is a digital thing. Even on the XTS radios.

 

[Beowolfs]

You can do a call alert on a radio but there is no way to send a text on analog on any radio that I'm aware of. Text messaging is a digital thing. Even on the XTS radios.

Per the 7550e Motorola user guide.

"Analog Message Encode"
"Your radio is able to send pre-programmed messages from the Message list to a radio alias or to the dispatcher."

Is this something different?? I was told they The 7550e and 5550e could rend and receive messages though analog as stated above. Perhaps the previous generation as well.

 

[K2NEC]

A lightbulb just went off in my head. You said you use CPS2.0. This could be a feature in the newer firmware that I'm not aware of. All of my XPR's are 2.09 firmware so I had no idea what you were talking about originally. What is the firmware version you are on?

 

[Beowolfs]

A lightbulb just went off in my head. You said you use CPS2.0. This could be a feature in the newer firmware that I'm not aware of. All of my XPR's are 2.09 firmware so I had no idea what you were talking about originally. What is the firmware version you are on?

CPS 2.26.203.0
R02.20.02.0002

 

[katt02]

I believe you may be thinking of the MDC message list and MDC status list. AFAIK this can be used to send pre defined messages to a dispatcher; however, I do not think this can be done unit to unit. In CPS16 you can find this by clicking on signaling systems. I'm not sure if cps2.0 has that tab but I would ASSuME its in a similar area. (I have not used 2.0 yet)

 

[Beowolfs]

Screen capture taken from the 7550e manual. Under the Analog section.
Again, I could be mistaken. But the manual leads me to believe it's possible.

 

[K2NEC]

Are you referencing "Status Updates"?

 

[Beowolfs]

Are you referencing "Status Updates"?

Yes, Status updates are programed via CPS aren't they? I can customize the message/s to fit my needs. I go on hikes where due to the elevation cell signals are not present. Never the less, I can still reach my house while transmitting in Simplex or through repeaters.

 

[redbeard]

You have to pre-define messages in a list. For instance message one would be "I am enroute to home" and it would be programmed as such in both radios. Then when you send via MDC, the radio just squawks something to the effect of "STATUS 1" and your radio translates that into the canned message pre-programmed in the radio. That's how analog MDC messaging works. Whether the currect firmware and CPS supports that anymore I can't tell you. Like many others we stopped updating before CPS 2.0 was required.

 

[Beowolfs]

You have to pre-define messages in a list. For instance message one would be "I am enroute to home" and it would be programmed as such in both radios. Then when you send via MDC, the radio just squawks something to the effect of "STATUS 1" and your radio translates that into the canned message pre-programmed in the radio. That's how analog MDC messaging works. Whether the currect firmware and CPS supports that anymore I can't tell you. Like many others we stopped updating before CPS 2.0 was required.

Hello Shawn,

The steps to sending or receiving messages is about the same as in digital. I also somewhat understand how it works. The problem is, I don't know how to program it in CPS.

For example, where in CPS do I write the predetermined messages that are to be used in analog? For Digital you add them under "Text Messages". But those don't show up when I try to use Quick Text when in analog.

At first, my contact wasn't showing up either (Only on Digital). Turns out I had to select the MDC option under the Contact. After entering the info needed, now the contact is available in analog as well.

There are more steps that still rrequired in CPS. But I dont know what they are.

That's my question to this forum...

How do I program CPS for analog messaging to work? I need the Steps!, or at the very least where to go. I've searched Youtube and found no videos showing the process.

Thank you.

 

[Beowolfs]

You have to pre-define messages in a list. For instance message one would be "I am enroute to home" and it would be programmed as such in both radios. Then when you send via MDC, the radio just squawks something to the effect of "STATUS 1" and your radio translates that into the canned message pre-programmed in the radio. That's how analog MDC messaging works. Whether the currect firmware and CPS supports that anymore I can't tell you. Like many others we stopped updating before CPS 2.0 was required.

It's a good thing you didn't update to the latest CPS. Motorola has crippled it by removing options once available. It's also slow as molasses.

I had no choice in the matter. Apparently Motorola ships the XPR 7550e radios with the latest firmware which required CPS2.

Last week I contacted Motorola. They said without a doubt CPS2 does support analog messaging.

I need the steps on how to do so.

Thanks

 

[Motoballa]

Last week I contacted Motorola. They said without a doubt CPS2 does support analog messaging.

You got a response from them within a week?!? That's damn near impossible unless you're paying them big bucks LOL

-Drake

 

[Beowolfs]

You got a response from them within a week?!? That's damn near impossible unless you're paying them big bucks LOL

-Drake

LOL..

What I meant is.... I called them and their response (While on the phone) was... Yes CPS2 can be used to program analog messaging.
Frankly, I'm surprised they didn't say "Call next week for the answer". Or better yet. You need to submit your question, we'll create a case # and get back to you on that.

 

[ramal121]

Looks like you need RM to fill out the status list.

 

[Beowolfs]

Looks like you need RM to fill out the status list.

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Hello ramal121

So installing Radio Management gives CPS additional features such as the option to add Status messages?
Or do I write the Status Messages in RM which then transfers it to CPS?
Ultimately it's CPS that programs the radio/s and not RM or am I mistaken?

Alex O.

 

[Firebuff880]

@Beowolfs NO !!

Radio Manager + Radio Manager Client + Job Processor + Device Programmer = Programed radio with the actual physical interface through the Device Programmer module..

CPS = CPS and a number of features previously enabled through CPS and now RM based only.

RM != CPS