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XTL5000 IGN turn on issue

radioman2008

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I have a XTL5000 UHF 403-470 W1 (looks like W5 astro spectra dash mount)

i have switched power to the radio, and the same switched power to the IGN lead. this is the same configuration i have had my XTL2500 in for 6 years.

so the XTL5000 wont automatically turn on when power is applied to the radio and the IGN sense wire. i still have to manually press power each time the vehicle turns on.
Ive even swapped the XTL2500 power lead and IGN wire to the XTL5000 and same deal, doesnt automatically turn on.

Ive poked around the software but dont see anything specific about the IGN sense.

any ideas?
 

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Radio Wide > Advanced > Ignition Switch

See the help file for details on each option.
 

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The problem may be that the main power to the radio is switched, should be on all the time.
The IGN lead will turn the radio on.
 

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Radio Wide > Advanced > Ignition Switch

See the help file for details on each option.

I found the area per your help, but the options i have access to are only
BLANK
TX INHIBIT
PTT TX INHIBIT

the radio is currently set to "BLANK"
Im using ver 20 astro25 mobile

it looks like according to the help file i copy pasted below, that "ignition only power up" "required" or "soft power off" is what i need, but its not in the list of options.

this is the W1 head that looks like a W5 Astro spectra design.



Ignition Switch

(Radio Wide, Advanced)


Selects the radio’s functionality based on the state of the Ignition switch in the radio-user's vehicle. "Ignition" is present when the vehicle's ignition switch / key is turned ON; and not present (removed) when the vehicle's ignition switch / key is OFF.

When either "Tx Inhibit", or "PTT Tx Inhibit" are selected, the Emergency Power Up feature is not allowed.

Blank:

  • Radio powers-on with a radio-user power button press, or with an Emergency Power Up footswitch press.
  • Radio powers-off with a radio-user power button press.
Tx Inhibit: (Available Only When: the radio is model / option capable)

  • Radio powers-on with a radio-user power button press.
  • Radio powers-off with a radio-user power button press.
  • While "Ignition" is not present, certain communications are not possible:
    • The radio does not register with "ASTRO 25 (APCO)" Trunking Systems and therefore cannot receive this Type (see the System Type field) of Trunking dispatch communications, however "Type II" Trunking Systems can receive dispatch without being registered.
    • Also, the radio cannot be powered-on with the Emergency Power Up feature, and Emergency Alarm transmissions using the Emergency Power Up footswitch are not possible.
PTT Tx Inhibit: (Available Only When: the radio is model / option capable)

  • Radio powers-on with a radio-user power button press.
  • Radio powers-off with a radio-user power button press.
  • While "Ignition" is not present all PTT-Button transmissions are inhibited:
    • The radio does not register with "ASTRO 25 (APCO)" Trunking Systems and therefore cannot receive this Type (see the System Type field) of Trunking dispatch communications, however "Type II" Trunking Systems can receive dispatch without being registered.
    • Also, the radio cannot be powered-on with the Emergency Power Up feature, and Emergency Alarm transmissions using the Emergency Power Up footswitch are not possible.
Required:

  • Radio powers-on with a radio-user power button press only if "Ignition" is present, or
  • Radio automatically powers-on when "Ignition" is present only if the radio turned off due to "Ignition" being removed (turned off), or
  • Radio powers-on with the Emergency Power Up feature.
  • Radio powers-off with a radio-user power button press.
  • Radio powers-off when "Ignition" is removed, but only when the radio was powered-on with the power button.
  • For an O3 Control Head: "Ignition" presence is required for radio power-on or power-off; a PTT button-press or a power-button press powers-on the radio, the power-button press powers-off the radio.
Soft Power Off: (Available Only When: the radio is model / option capable)

  • Radio powers-on when "Ignition" is present, or with a radio-user power button press, or with the Emergency Power Up feature.
  • Radio powers-off when "Ignition" is removed, or with a radio-user power button press.
  • For an O3 Control Head: "Ignition" presence is not required for radio power-on or power-off; a PTT button-press or a power-button press powers-on the radio, the power-button press powers-off the radio.
  • For XTL1500 only: The power knob must remain in the ON position; the radio then powers-on when "Ignition" is present, and powers-off when "Ignition" is removed.
Ignition Only Power-Up

  • Radio powers-on when "Ignition" is present, or with the Emergency Power Up feature.
  • Radio powers-off when "Ignition" is removed.
  • Radio does not power on or off with a radio-user power button press.
  • For an O3 Control Head: No button press of any type powers-on or powers-off the radio; the radio follows the "Ignition" state.
 

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the W series remote used an ignition sense wire from the head like spectra. O series can do soft power off etc
 

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I have what appears to be the same XTL5000 radios. W5's and a couple W4's. I struggled with the IGN and switched power and
found as suggested above. The high current power must be on all the time for the radio to "remember" to come on with IGN
sense. I didn't find away around this. I believe that is just how the 5K works.
 

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I think if those are the only 3 options you have, your specific model of radio does not support ignition switch power. I don't know what ones do and do not, but I recall reading something in the help file about the hardware has to support it.
 

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I have what appears to be the same XTL5000 radios. W5's and a couple W4's. I struggled with the IGN and switched power and
found as suggested above. The high current power must be on all the time for the radio to "remember" to come on with IGN
sense. I didn't find away around this. I believe that is just how the 5K works.
I will re wire the primary connection to constant 12v and leave the ign wire to the switched power and see what happens. thank you
 
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