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XTS-5000 beeps/tones

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Zack1971

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Hi everyone,
I'm completely new to the forum so apologies for any missteps but I'm hoping I can get some advice.
I have a Wulfsberg C-5000 Controller and Wulfsberg RT-5000 transceiver with the Motorola XTS-5000 ITM and have been tasked with introducing P25 capability to a customers aircraft.
My P25 knowledge is minimal but have managed to get the system near serviceable, with one issue I can not figure out.
After loading encryption codes into the RT and selecting a trunked channel, all I receive/hear is a series of 6 quick 'beeps' or tones repeated approx. every 10 seconds.
I've searched high and low for a cause, but no luck, so I've turned to you guys for help.
Thanks very much for any info.
 

Zack1971

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Hi, thanks for the quick reply.
I thought the same, but the crypto-loader states the keys have been loaded successfully and the target loaded keys can be viewed as expected on the loader.
Perhaps expired Keys?
 

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Keys don't expire in this context.

If the keys are loaded, then they're probably not associated with the trunking personality.
 

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Did you load a key or a KEK? Is the system using OTAR? Did you use PID or CKR?

It sounds like you loaded a KEK and you need to request a rekey with the radio. On a normal 5000 or 2500, you will see the normal icon for encryption, but you won't see the AES icon until the rekey is successful.
 

Zack1971

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Hi, I used a Motorola KVL-3000 to load the keys.
How would I know if I was loading a key or a KEK?
How do I request a rekey?
Thanks
 

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If the system is using OTAR, you would load the KEK with the KVL, then use the radio and navigate to the soft key labeled REKEY. Then once you press the REKEY button, you press the PTT. The system will check the KEK against what the system has and if they match, the system gives the radio the actual key and the radio will display the AES symbol. On our system, we have to have CKR checked and you have to enter in the correct info in the secure section. Your system admin will tell you which slots to use.
 

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Also don't forget that even with a proper KEK, the provisioning manager for the system has to have the radio ID assigned to the proper security group in order to OTAR the TEK. You may have loaded the correct KEK, but the KMF manager may not have provisioned that radio to receive the TEK for the selected talkgroup.
 
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