Yes I am new to HT-1000

[TS0918]

I dont even know where to start there is so much info out there its crazy.

Any how hello everyone

I have a questions or actually looking for some guidance

Short story for work we use 2 way radios and unfortunately they are not working up to our needs.

We came across some HT-1000 that were government issued and deprogrammed in short they were never used and they were given to us.

I have never had to deal with programming and not about to attempt to its outside my scope.

We would use the radios to communicate among the 4 of us for work. What would you recommend for us to be able to use these in that capacity without having issues.

Would need to be able to get the most out of the available range on them ranging around about 8 city blocks if not closer? As i read about the legalities of using the higher watts etc etc. I know it takes someone with the knowledge of the dos program to handle this.

I guess how would YOU go about being able to use them among the 4 of us

would you go with the free way? Or pay the 80 a month etc there is where i get lost when repeaters and stuff is used.

I apologize now if this post makes no sense im tired of reading and reading and reading

Also anyone in the chicago area able to program them. will cover the cost and beer :O)

They are ht1000 narrow band UHF 16 channel

Thanks for the advice in advanced

 

[Ed_Seedhouse]

Transmitting unlicensed is illegal. You are very likely to cause destructive interference and that can bring the law down on you.

 

[WA0CBW]

Since you have UHF band HT1000's you would apply for a UHF license from the local frequency coordinator. The coordinator would pick a frequency(s) that would cause the least amount of interference to adjacent area users. That frequency(s) would be attached to your application to the FCC along with fees to the coordinator and the FCC. The FCC will review the application and if you qualify (you aren't a foreigner etc. and a bunch of other questions) you will be assigned an FCC call sign which will included the use of the assigned frequencies at a specific power level with an operational area around a specific location for a specific radius of x miles. You can then operate the radios following the operational procedures set forth by the FCC such as identifying with your call sign periodically and monitoring the frequency before transmitting.

That is about all there is to it.....give or take a little.
BB

 

[W2NJS]

You can also get what is called an itinerant license from the FCC. Less cost, less paperwork,etc., but from time to time there are bound to be other users on your frequencies. Good thing is you can be assigned like four UHF channels which provides more flexibility for you vs. having to compete with other licensed users. An itinerant license can be requested for use in all of the USA if you want it to be that way. You'll need an FCC "facilitator" to handle the paperwork for you and the cost will be a few hundred bucks. Here is the URL for one of those companies:

Licensing Assistance Office, Gettysburg, PA

 

[ther0ck]

Since you have UHF band HT1000's you would apply for a UHF license from the local frequency coordinator. The coordinator would pick a frequency(s) that would cause the least amount of interference to adjacent area users. That frequency(s) would be attached to your application to the FCC along with fees to the coordinator and the FCC. The FCC will review the application and if you qualify (you aren't a foreigner etc. and a bunch of other questions) you will be assigned an FCC call sign which will included the use of the assigned frequencies at a specific power level with an operational area around a specific location for a specific radius of x miles. You can then operate the radios following the operational procedures set forth by the FCC such as identifying with your call sign periodically and monitoring the frequency before transmitting.

That is about all there is to it.....give or take a little.
BB

OK, this advice is wrong in conjunction with the OP's original question. Freq coordinators are for AMATEUR RADIO, not regular use.


I have to say that in this case, programming the HT's with the MURS freqs is the BEST and MOST productive way of hassle-free ops.

 

[ther0ck]

You can also get what is called an itinerant license from the FCC. Less cost, less paperwork,etc., but from time to time there are bound to be other users on your frequencies. Good thing is you can be assigned like four UHF channels which provides more flexibility for you vs. having to compete with other licensed users. An itinerant license can be requested for use in all of the USA if you want it to be that way. You'll need an FCC "facilitator" to handle the paperwork for you and the cost will be a few hundred bucks. Here is the URL for one of those companies:

Licensing Assistance Office, Gettysburg, PA

LOL! i laugh at this link because it's not helping him. FCC.gov is the first place he needs to go.

 

[TS0918]

Thanks for the info so far guys appreciate it

Ed thanks for your post I guess as I am well aware of the legalities hence why I was asking what people would do, or if I should go the route of paying etc etc. No offense but please try to read the full post before being a internet lawyer when someone is asking what the proper way of doing this is or what my options are.

Moving on

so far murs is one way. From reading does being on the murs band tho limit the range due to not being able to use the higher watts?

the usage with the radios wouldn't be used every day but very rarely. Tho assuming murs is open it wont be private and honestly id rather keep the radio chatter private. options?

I guess i don't understand what would be the difference in using the ht-1000 from the say motorola sp50 for example where its not a open channel from as yous guys say the radio sheriffs to complain about.

The radios we use now are not heard by anyone but the ranges suck for what they are used for.

 

[mmckenna]

OK, this advice is wrong in conjunction with the OP's original question. Freq coordinators are for AMATEUR RADIO, not regular use.


I have to say that in this case, programming the HT's with the MURS freqs is the BEST and MOST productive way of hassle-free ops.

No, Frequency Coordinators are responsible for assigning frequencies to public safety, business, transportation and just about every other Part 90 service. If the OP wants to license a frequency to operate these radios on, then a frequency coordinator would be the place to start.

Yes, the Amateur radio spectrum has local coordinators that help with repeater pair assignments as well, but they are separate and different from the frequency coordinators I mentioned above.


As for programming them for MURS, the OP stated they are UHF radios, not VHF, so he will not be able to use MURS. Even if they were VHF, the HT-1000's put out 5 watts on VHF, so they wouldn't be legal there. The issues with type certifications might preclude this also.

The correct path for the OP, since he stated he's not sure what to do, is to work with a frequency coordinator to help determine what he needs. Depending on the use, industry, locations, etc, they can assist in the frequency selection and FCC filings. If an itinerant channel is the solution, then the OP would likely benefit from some help filing all the paper work with the FCC. While it may be simple for some of us, those that have not worked with the FCC before would likely get lost in short order.

 

[TS0918]

Just wanted to say thanks guys ended up paying for the 10 year license given the nature of the work and the fact we didnt want people listening in due to the radio chatter involving the general locations of where we are and the nature of the work. appreciate the responses

 

[FFPM571]

just so you know once the license is granted it becomes public record and can be found on the FCC website.

 

[TS0918]

just so you know once the license is granted it becomes public record and can be found on the FCC website.

Im aware of that but chances some actually looking for it are slim and unless they are in the same area we are which we never are in the same area no ones going to hear much.

 

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