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20xxx series are always patches. Depending on what scanner you're using, it should indicate that you're looking at a patch. You should still be able to catch the call on the original TGIDs too.
york county phase 1 question
I am looking for the list to down load the phase one system. My dept just bought a duty car and the scanner in it will do phase 1 . We looking to program it till we acquire a new scanner for it. But the only thing listed is the phase 2 info
I am looking for the list to down load the phase one system. My dept just bought a duty car and the scanner in it will do phase 1 . We looking to program it till we acquire a new scanner for it. But the only thing listed is the phase 2 info
The UHF Sites are listed in the database. They are the Phase I system.
i live in york county Ne. i recently bought my BCD996P2.. i was able to use fee scan and upload the info from this site onto the scanner with no problems. How ever i have a list of frequencies for york county
that was not in the data on this site , can anyone help a newbie out...
that was not in the data on this site , can anyone help a newbie out...
This is a thread for York County, PA. You'll want to search under Nebraska for they frequencies, or ask in their forum for help.
Has anybody decoded the 700mhz CCs for the channel ID table? I haven't had any luck finding it yet.
The 700mhz side of the system is operational, and a limited number of portable radios have been deployed to field users for "burn-in" evaluation. I'm using one today, and sound quality is good. I'm in the extreme southeast corner of the county, and it seems as though signal is improved with the addition of the Brogue site, and the switch of the Fulton site from stand-alone to part of the south simulcast.
As in the frequencies listed in the database of this site?
Will the new 700 system be phase 2?
troymail
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Did a major road trip today and the next to the last stop was Hanover to take a look at the new 700 sites...
Well, the first issue I found was my Unication G4 kept saying that no sites were in range. Turns out, the RFSS/site values for the 700 sites are wrong on the RRDB. Apparently they are now 10/10, 20/20, 30/30 and 40/40. (lesson learned -- for traveing and looking at new stuff, I'll be using wildcards for various system/site settings in my G4 from now on.
Anyway, I'll submit the RFSS/site value changes.
The other thing I noticed is that in addition to the talkgroups being Phase 2, they are also changed from the 12xxx ranges to 51xxx. I really didn't watch each talkgroup but it would appear that some (most/all?) 12xxx talkgroups on the UHF sites appear on the 700 sites at the same time as 51xxx. Best I could tell, I also some a few 51xxx talkgroups on the West UHF site as well but most were 12xxx.
Well, the first issue I found was my Unication G4 kept saying that no sites were in range. Turns out, the RFSS/site values for the 700 sites are wrong on the RRDB. Apparently they are now 10/10, 20/20, 30/30 and 40/40. (lesson learned -- for traveing and looking at new stuff, I'll be using wildcards for various system/site settings in my G4 from now on.
Anyway, I'll submit the RFSS/site value changes.
The other thing I noticed is that in addition to the talkgroups being Phase 2, they are also changed from the 12xxx ranges to 51xxx. I really didn't watch each talkgroup but it would appear that some (most/all?) 12xxx talkgroups on the UHF sites appear on the 700 sites at the same time as 51xxx. Best I could tell, I also some a few 51xxx talkgroups on the West UHF site as well but most were 12xxx.
All talkgroups will begin with a 5. There is a complete overhaul of the fleet map being deployed across all emergency service groups. The RFSS changed for 700 sites, not the 500 sites. You'll see the 12*** ID's disappear as the migration moves forward.
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Site values for 700mhz sites updated.
when the 5xxxxx tdma tg id's are sent in, we will add them and then remove the phase 1 tg after the transition is completed.
Thanks for the updates.
when the 5xxxxx tdma tg id's are sent in, we will add them and then remove the phase 1 tg after the transition is completed.
Thanks for the updates.
Really? They're talking about rolling out the new system around the end of the summer. Might be nice if they provide the county responders training on this new fleet map layout soon.
troymail
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Did a quick trip to York today and monitored the West, Central and South sites for a while...
York County seems alot busier than when I lived south of Hanover 25 years ago but it could just be that I didn't hear alot from the Hanover area at that time as everything was on low band then (that was long before the UHF trunk system came to be).
Anyway, at first, the radio was being dominated by what sounded like a large school evacuation (real? drill? Idunno). That went on for quite a while. Then, there was a 2-alarm apartment structure fire in the southeast corner of the county (I think). Next there was a fairly large (and growing) search going on for a missing child - also in the southern part of the county I believe. Command was requesting air support and search teams - sounded like one coming from Cumberland County and another being requested from Frederick County Maryland.
This is what I saw on the 700 sites during my trip:
Between Saturday's swing through the area and today, Pro96Com detected these TGIDs on the 700 Mhz sites (some encrypted):
1007
12001
12003
12005
12006
12007
12013
12061
12063
12175
12260
50100
50101
50112
50113
50114
50121
51001
51002
51003
51004
51005
51006
51007
51011
51012
51013
51014
51025
51027
51028
51036
51038
51039
51101
51108
51110
51112
51114
51116
51118
51122
51123
52001
52002
52006
52100
52101
52103
52106
52107
52121
52127
52161
52166
52168
54003
54006
54901
I'll probably be back in a bit after I listen to the recordings I captured.
York County seems alot busier than when I lived south of Hanover 25 years ago but it could just be that I didn't hear alot from the Hanover area at that time as everything was on low band then (that was long before the UHF trunk system came to be).
Anyway, at first, the radio was being dominated by what sounded like a large school evacuation (real? drill? Idunno). That went on for quite a while. Then, there was a 2-alarm apartment structure fire in the southeast corner of the county (I think). Next there was a fairly large (and growing) search going on for a missing child - also in the southern part of the county I believe. Command was requesting air support and search teams - sounded like one coming from Cumberland County and another being requested from Frederick County Maryland.
This is what I saw on the 700 sites during my trip:
- it appears that the Fire/EMS talkgroup IDs are still the same on the 700 sites (for now at least).
- I matched up a couple 51xxx TGIDs to existing 12xxx TGIDs for some law enforcement areas (submitted to the database)
- I found several 51xxx law enforcement TGIDs that appeared on both the UHF and 700 Mhz sites... I'll have to play some of that back and see if I can narrow things down.
- Saw quite a few patches set up on various sites.
- I suspect some of the towers are not yet operational - I was near/at the Lincolnway Fire station and that tower is listed as being on the (extended?) central site license ... certainly didn't seem to be transmitting. I parked on George St downtown (which is on the primary central site license) for about an hour and it was very stable. That site is very busy (not a surprise)
- Even though the 700 frquencies are intended to be P25 Phase 2 and much of it was, there was a considerable amount of Phase 1 activity - easy to detect since my Unication G4 is still only Phase 1 (soon to be Phase capable I hope!)
Between Saturday's swing through the area and today, Pro96Com detected these TGIDs on the 700 Mhz sites (some encrypted):
1007
12001
12003
12005
12006
12007
12013
12061
12063
12175
12260
50100
50101
50112
50113
50114
50121
51001
51002
51003
51004
51005
51006
51007
51011
51012
51013
51014
51025
51027
51028
51036
51038
51039
51101
51108
51110
51112
51114
51116
51118
51122
51123
52001
52002
52006
52100
52101
52103
52106
52107
52121
52127
52161
52166
52168
54003
54006
54901
I'll probably be back in a bit after I listen to the recordings I captured.
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Hmm there are a couple talkgroups on that list I'm surprised you're seeing already.
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troymail
Silent Key
this was the Pro96Com list which includes - I believe - data transmission and affiliation messages (where a radio just happened to be switched to one of those talkgroups). The list of TGIDs with voice is likely much smaller - fire/EMS, law enforcement, courthouse, radio maint., unknowns, etc.
I have the system open as well on Pro96Com for Adams County, I just happen to turn on York County just the 700 MHz and so far only have one hit on a voice channel 773.89375 Ch. 08-1566 which is the 700 West site no Control Channel as of yet.
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Funny thing with Pro96Com is, if you have another site or P25 system running in the scanner it will show on the site activity section.
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Funny thing with Pro96Com is, if you have another site or P25 system running in the scanner it will show on the site activity section.
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troymail
Silent Key
773.89375 is one of the frequencies on the West site and the control channel (773.24375 yesterday) is definitely there as is the CC for the Central and South sites. I was monitoring them yesterday. I didn't monitor it directly but I'm 99%certain there is an active CC for the North site as well (per the neighbors seen in Pro96Com).
https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=4518
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