DSDPlus Trunking question

bravo14 · May 18, 2018

Can I trunk track freqs on DSDPlus scan for freqs for a system or do I need to have sharp for control channel and run dsdplus?

thewraith2008 · May 18, 2018

Can you rephrase that.

For best results, with 2 dongles, your setup should be (using TCP):
FMP24 set up as CC
DSDPlus setup as CC
FMP24 set up as VC
DSDPlus setup as VC

CC (Control Channel) setup follows control activity
VC (Voice Channel) setup responds to CC and follows voice activity.

You still need to fill in the record files (.frequencies, .sites, .networks)

bravo14 · May 18, 2018

thewraith2008 said:
Can you rephrase that.

For best results, with 2 dongles, your setup should be (using TCP):
FMP24 set up as CC
DSDPlus setup as CC
FMP24 set up as VC
DSDPlus setup as VC

CC (Control Channel) setup follows control activity
VC (Voice Channel) setup responds to CC and follows voice activity.

You still need to fill in the record files (.frequencies, .sites, .networks)

I do have 2 dongles. I do use the fmp cc/vc and dsdplus. Also have the tiles set up still no luck

slicerwizard · May 18, 2018

Need more details. What system? What setup in the files have you done?

DRL-XM43 · May 18, 2018

Are you asking about scanning to find frequencies?

bravo14 · May 19, 2018

slicerwizard said:
Need more details. What system? What setup in the files have you done?

I've put in the cap+ & Con+ system and the frequencies sites lcn and ota channels.

bravo14 · May 19, 2018

DRL-XM43 said:
Are you asking about scanning to find frequencies?

No I have the freqs just to need to scan them

DRL-XM43 · May 19, 2018

bravo14 said:
No I have the freqs just to need to scan them

Then you would put the freqs into a FMP(24) scanfile.

This format

770.50625 P25 DELAY=4 Toronto Emergency Services North C
769.93125 P25 DELAY=4 Toronto Emergency Services South C

Then run a batchfile similar to this...

::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

SD+ Switches
: -fa Auto-detect all protocols / frame types except dPMR [-fa]
: -fd Decode D-STAR (no audio)
: -fn Decode NXDN4800 (Kenwood NEXEDGE and Icom IDAS)
: -fN Decode NXDN9600 (Kenwood NEXEDGE)
: -fr Decode DMR/MotoTRBO (TDMA inputs + both output slots)
: -f1 Decode P25 Phase 1
: -fx Decode X2-TDMA
: -fp Decode ProVoice
: -fm Enable dPMR decoding (no audio):FMP24-CC.bat:
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:FMP24-CC.bat: ***"-fxxx.xxx"***
Start FMP24 -i1 -b9.5 -rc -P0.8 -g49.6 -s1 -o20001 -_1 -wsl000.40
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

SD-CC.bat:
Start DSDPlus -e -rc -f1 -i20001 -v4
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:FMP24-VC.bat:
Start FMP24 -i2 -b9.5 -P0.8 -g49.6 -o20002 -rv -_1 -wsl250.40
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

SD-VC.bat:
Start DSDPlus -e -rv -f1 -i20002 -v4
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

of course change the variables to suit your needs.

bravo14 · May 19, 2018

Here is what I have in
cc.bat DSDPlus -rc -i3 -v3 -wsl400.2 -wss100.200 -wel0.1 -wcl0.445 -wes400.520 >>CC.log

fmp-cc.bat 4 1 20.0 452.625

fmp-vc.bat FMP 3 2 20.0 99.99999999

vc.bat DSDPlus -rv -Pwav -i2 -o1 -v3 -wsl400.210 -wss100.200 -wel172.522 -wcl528.0 >>VC.log

Freq section

; Regional Domestic Security Task Force

P25, BEE00.292, 1.14, 0, 769.25625, 799.25625, 0
P25, BEE00.292 1.14, 0, 770.28125, 800.28125, 0
P25, BEE00.292, 1.14, 0, 771.38125, 801.38125, 0

; PowerSouth Energy Cooperative

Con+, 164, 18, 0, 451.0625, 456.0625 0

Con+, 164, 2, 0, 461.6000, 466.6000 0

Con+, 164, 11, 0, 452.6250, 457.6250, 0
Con+, 164, 11, 0, 452.6250, 457.6250, 0
Con+, 164, 11, 0, 451.9250, 456.9250, 0
Con+, 164, 11, 0, 451.9250, 456.9250, 0
Con+, 164, 11, 0, 451.0750, 456.0750, 0
Con+, 164, 11, 0, 451.0750, 456.0750, 0

Con+, 164, 28, 0, 451.7500, 456.7500, 0
COn+, 164, 28, 0, 452.1000, 457.1000, 0
Con+, 164, 28, 0, 452.7250, 457.7250, 0

slicerwizard · May 20, 2018

bravo14 said:
fmp-cc.bat 4 1 20.0 452.625

fmp-vc.bat FMP 3 2 20.0 99.99999999

Do you really just have a bunch of numbers? And are you really using FMP instead of FMP24?

Freq section

; Regional Domestic Security Task Force

P25, BEE00.292, 1.14, 0, 769.25625, 799.25625, 0
P25, BEE00.292 1.14, 0, 770.28125, 800.28125, 0
P25, BEE00.292, 1.14, 0, 771.38125, 801.38125, 0

P25 systems don't need any user-provided channel data.

; PowerSouth Energy Cooperative

Con+, 164, 18, 0, 451.0625, 456.0625 0

Con+, 164, 2, 0, 461.6000, 466.6000 0

Con+, 164, 11, 0, 452.6250, 457.6250, 0
Con+, 164, 11, 0, 452.6250, 457.6250, 0
Con+, 164, 11, 0, 451.9250, 456.9250, 0
Con+, 164, 11, 0, 451.9250, 456.9250, 0
Con+, 164, 11, 0, 451.0750, 456.0750, 0
Con+, 164, 11, 0, 451.0750, 456.0750, 0

Entering channels twice doesn't accomplish anything.

Con+, 164, 28, 0, 451.7500, 456.7500, 0
COn+, 164, 28, 0, 452.1000, 457.1000, 0
Con+, 164, 28, 0, 452.7250, 457.7250, 0

You haven't set any of the channel numbers. DSD+ can't trunk track if you don't tell it what channel numbers go with what frequencies.

bravo14 · May 25, 2018

slicerwizard said:
Do you really just have a bunch of numbers? And are you really using FMP instead of FMP24?

I haven't ran FMP24 before.

Entering channels twice doesn't accomplish anything.

I thought it had been twice since there is 2 different slots

You haven't set any of the channel numbers. DSD+ can't trunk track if you don't tell it what channel numbers go with what frequencies.

I don't know the LCN or CH ID number.

slicerwizard · May 25, 2018

bravo14 said:
I haven't ran FMP24 before.

Then you're mixing parts of DSD+ 1.101 with parts of FL. That's asking for trouble.

I thought it had been twice since there is 2 different slots

The 1.101 docs (DSDPlus.txt) says one entry per DMR RF channel.

I don't know the LCN or CH ID number.

The control channel tells you the channel numbers.

bravo14 · May 25, 2018

slicerwizard said:
Then you're mixing parts of DSD+ 1.101 with parts of FL. That's asking for trouble.

The 1.101 docs (DSDPlus.txt) says one entry per DMR RF channel.

The control channel tells you the channel numbers.

The Control Channel for the Power Company doesn't give out the Channel Numbers for some odd reason.

I'll go back in the freq section to remove extra freqs.

bravo14 · May 25, 2018

Here is a screen shot for the power company ch number

thewraith2008 · May 25, 2018

Looks like you have a CC but in that screenshot, there has not been any call activity.
You should see a channel # appear when that happens.

Must be a dead quite network.

Do you have the Fastlane (paid) version of DSDPlus or only the public released version (v1p101)?

bravo14 · May 26, 2018

thewraith2008 said:
Looks like you have a CC but in that screenshot, there has not been any call activity.
You should see a channel # appear when that happens.

Must be a dead quite network.

Do you have the Fastlane (paid) version of DSDPlus or only the public released version (v1p101)?

I have the paid version.

thewraith2008 · May 26, 2018

The screenshot shows FMP that's not the Fastlane version FMP24.
You need to be using FMP24 if you have the Fastlane version.

Also check version of DSDplus your pointing to. Check your .bat files.

Versions are displayed at startup in console or event window.

slicerwizard · May 26, 2018

bravo14 said:
The Control Channel for the Power Company doesn't give out the Channel Numbers for some odd reason.

As noted, because there's no traffic. So you're not missing anything...

bravo14 · May 26, 2018

slicerwizard said:
As noted, because there's no traffic. So you're not missing anything...

Okay thanks

bravo14 · May 26, 2018

thewraith2008 said:
The screenshot shows FMP that's not the Fastlane version FMP24.
You need to be using FMP24 if you have the Fastlane version.

Also check version of DSDplus your pointing to. Check your .bat files.

Versions are displayed at startup in console or event window.

I open FMP24 and I tune into the freq I don't hear the Control Ch. or it doesn't see the Control Ch.

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