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38 Lower, Gone to the Dogs
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Propagation on 11m lately is generally gone by the evening, of course, there are exceptions.
eastsidertim
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Good Job!
Great! Congratulations! I'm really happy to hear that. I remembered that today was your test day, and I was hoping you would post the good news.
Well, now you'll have some more options to consider. Time do do some looking around on the 'net and see what sort of station changes you'd like to make to take advantage of having more spectrum access.
Keep us posted as you consider what "direction" you'd like to take.
Great! Congratulations! I'm really happy to hear that. I remembered that today was your test day, and I was hoping you would post the good news.
Well, now you'll have some more options to consider. Time do do some looking around on the 'net and see what sort of station changes you'd like to make to take advantage of having more spectrum access.
Keep us posted as you consider what "direction" you'd like to take.
eastsidertim
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Thanks ... Studying for the General ...
Sounds like a plan
That's a good idea. In the meantime, you can try out the 10 meter allocation for your license as soon as you get the "go ahead". I'm not familiar with how soon you can transmit, you probably were told that when you passed the test.
Have fun!
That's a good idea. In the meantime, you can try out the 10 meter allocation for your license as soon as you get the "go ahead". I'm not familiar with how soon you can transmit, you probably were told that when you passed the test.
Have fun!
eastsidertim
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Soon as the call shows up in the data base ..Man those guys talk fast .. Some of them sound like they say QRzed after there call ??? any ideals... Thanks ...
Tim,
OK on the database... I don't know how long it takes, but it's probably not too long.
Sounds like you may be listening to guys working a contest. On many weekends there are ARRL contests that tie up some of the spectrum. Sometimes the ssb freqs are "wall to wall" with contesters. They have to talk fast because they get points for the number of contacts they make. After every contact they say "QRZed" (which technically means who is calling me) because they are looking for the next person to make a contact with.
Contests are sort of a bad time to try and use the band for making a casual contact. I used to just go "elsewhere" when there was a contest going on. Sometimes the contest is CW, sometimes ssb, sometimes certain bands only. There's all sorts of contests on weekends.
If I knew the contest was voice, I'd use cw, or find a band without the contest.
If you don't want to participate, you'll just have to wait the contest out. Should be back to normal tomorrow.
The pace will slow down dramatically, and you can make an easy contact by calling CQ or listening for someone else to call CQ.
OK on the database... I don't know how long it takes, but it's probably not too long.
Sounds like you may be listening to guys working a contest. On many weekends there are ARRL contests that tie up some of the spectrum. Sometimes the ssb freqs are "wall to wall" with contesters. They have to talk fast because they get points for the number of contacts they make. After every contact they say "QRZed" (which technically means who is calling me) because they are looking for the next person to make a contact with.
Contests are sort of a bad time to try and use the band for making a casual contact. I used to just go "elsewhere" when there was a contest going on. Sometimes the contest is CW, sometimes ssb, sometimes certain bands only. There's all sorts of contests on weekends.
If I knew the contest was voice, I'd use cw, or find a band without the contest.
If you don't want to participate, you'll just have to wait the contest out. Should be back to normal tomorrow.
The pace will slow down dramatically, and you can make an easy contact by calling CQ or listening for someone else to call CQ.
MeddleMan
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phonetics
If you remember as part of your studies, should explain that some letters sound the same, so phonetically the letter z is pronounced zed or Zulu to differ from letters like e, echo or g, golf. Works well on AM or SSB.
If you remember as part of your studies, should explain that some letters sound the same, so phonetically the letter z is pronounced zed or Zulu to differ from letters like e, echo or g, golf. Works well on AM or SSB.
eastsidertim
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No i just seen where they want you to use the Phonetic Alphabet, but that makes sense ... Thanks ..
Being i have gotten of point with this tread what is the 411 with antenna tuners ?? I have a 5 element maco set up for 11 meters would that work good on 10 with a tuner ?? On the other side of the house i have a SPT-500 up but 48 foot to the base ,Standing wave is good on 10 meters will that work pretty good for 10 ??
I put a Dipole up bout 30 ft hoz, but not to impressed .. THanks Guys ...
Being i have gotten of point with this tread what is the 411 with antenna tuners ?? I have a 5 element maco set up for 11 meters would that work good on 10 with a tuner ?? On the other side of the house i have a SPT-500 up but 48 foot to the base ,Standing wave is good on 10 meters will that work pretty good for 10 ??
I put a Dipole up bout 30 ft hoz, but not to impressed .. THanks Guys ...
Tim,
You have some pretty impressive hardware for antennas. As long as the swr is decent on the maco and the SPT-500, you should be good to go. You should have near the same good results on 10m as you do 11m. I say "near", because the maco may not give you the same gain and tight pattern on 10 that it presently does on 11. The vertical won't matter as much with the frequency move.
If it was me, I'd retune the beam for 10m and leave the vertical the way it is. Yes, if the beam presents a higher swr, it will still be useable with a tuner for now. It's just will work better to retune it for 10m if you can.
Remember, when you get the "general", you gain more spectrum above 28.500. Keep that in mind when and if you retune the maco.
Yes, that dipole cannot compare to what you have already for 10-11m. I'd put up a dipole for the lower ham bands so you can talk on 40 meters when you get the general. That way when 10-11m is "dead", you can still have some good contacts going.
p.s. You can PM me if you have further questions so we don't take the thread "off-course".
You have some pretty impressive hardware for antennas. As long as the swr is decent on the maco and the SPT-500, you should be good to go. You should have near the same good results on 10m as you do 11m. I say "near", because the maco may not give you the same gain and tight pattern on 10 that it presently does on 11. The vertical won't matter as much with the frequency move.
If it was me, I'd retune the beam for 10m and leave the vertical the way it is. Yes, if the beam presents a higher swr, it will still be useable with a tuner for now. It's just will work better to retune it for 10m if you can.
Remember, when you get the "general", you gain more spectrum above 28.500. Keep that in mind when and if you retune the maco.
Yes, that dipole cannot compare to what you have already for 10-11m. I'd put up a dipole for the lower ham bands so you can talk on 40 meters when you get the general. That way when 10-11m is "dead", you can still have some good contacts going.
p.s. You can PM me if you have further questions so we don't take the thread "off-course".
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kc4jgc
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Many north americans don't know this; the last letter of the alphabet is pronounced "zed" in english speaking countries except the US (and Canada?), where it's pronounced "zee". As you heard, Tim, when you hear a station ask for calling stations, you'll hear the station ask "QRZed?", so it cannot be confused with, say "QRT" which means "I'm going off the air."
jhooten
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What the rules say: 47CFR Part 97 Section 97.119
"(a) Each amateur station, except a space station or telecommand station, must transmit its assigned call sign on its transmitting channel at the end of each communication, and at least every 10 minutes during a communication, for the purpose of clearly making the source of the transmissions from the station known to those receiving the transmissions. "
The rest of it goes on about the acceptable ways to do it. Worst case you only have to give your call sign once every 10 minutes during a conversation lasting more than 10 minutes and when you end the contact.
Keying up the repeater ans saying "Hey Joe are you listening?" is a perfectly legal way to start a contact. The old farts may not like it but it is legal.
eastsidertim
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Thanks guys ...
jhooten
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robertmac,
I realize common sense is an uncommon trait these days. You have to know the anal tension or laid back factor of the repeater you are on. On some machines the normal crowd is wired so tight it you did it you would send the majority of those listening into a full blown cardiac event. Other machines are more mellow and laid back. For some folks Bob is a lot easier to remember that WD0GFY.
I guess you would rather no one called you if they had a momentary lapse of memory and couldn't remember your call sign at the time.
I realize common sense is an uncommon trait these days. You have to know the anal tension or laid back factor of the repeater you are on. On some machines the normal crowd is wired so tight it you did it you would send the majority of those listening into a full blown cardiac event. Other machines are more mellow and laid back. For some folks Bob is a lot easier to remember that WD0GFY.
I guess you would rather no one called you if they had a momentary lapse of memory and couldn't remember your call sign at the time.
rapidcharger
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Good luck!
One word of advice - don't get stuck in the "tech trap", where repeaters are the only activity you do. The real enjoyment of ham radio is on HF, communicating with other hams around the world.
One word of advice - don't get stuck in the "tech trap", where repeaters are the only activity you do. The real enjoyment of ham radio is on HF, communicating with other hams around the world.
eastsidertim
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Yep been doing that way fun ..
Tuned my 5 element to 10 meters and put it flat, she's a monster ..haha ...
Having lots of fun 11 country"s 34 contacts so far ..
Getting used to the Kenwood 570-s ..
Taking the General Saturday ...
KDOZBC ..........Thanks Guys .....73
Tuned my 5 element to 10 meters and put it flat, she's a monster ..haha ...
Having lots of fun 11 country"s 34 contacts so far ..
Getting used to the Kenwood 570-s ..
Taking the General Saturday ...
KDOZBC ..........Thanks Guys .....73
eastsidertim
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