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Hello fellow scanners. Today I heard for the first time the Capital District Emergency Radio Network on 460.400 Mhz using the PL tone of 110.9 Hz. My question is what exactly is the CDERN used for. I heard them doing a radio check to many multiple police agencies and the agencies were responding back that they acknowledged. So in closing what is the funtion and purpose of the CDERN. Thank you.
 
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From News Article:

The new system is similar to its predecessor the Capital District Emergency Radio Network. That network had a shared frequency for the command posts and communications officers of the state and local agencies linked to the system. Some agencies, like Colonie police, will keep that structure in place, while others will have car-to-car communications available

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http://www.spotlightnews.com/247/article.php?article_id=tT1181574972t466d673cbbfe7

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Emergency responders get on the same frequency

Posted on: 06/11/07
Written by: Graham S. Parker, Spotlight Staff
email: parkerg@spotlightnews.com

Soon Albany County first responders will be on the same frequency.

More often than police, fire fighters and paramedics would like to see, the scene of an accident, fire or crime is often clouded with the chatter of dozens of radios tuned into different channels.

In the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has been dolling out money to help emergency services across the country be able to communicate on the same frequency.

Albany County’s solution is the Emergency Service Interoperability Radio System (ESIRS). Through a $1.7 million grant, the county has been reworking communication systems among all local and state agencies within the county.

New radios and equipment have been made available to agencies so that a single “command and control frequency,” can be used among all emergency responders in the county, said Albany County Sheriff James Campbell.

The sheriff’s department has been working through a consultant to get the system online.

“Let’s say you’re at a multi agency response. Instead of a radio on every car, there will be one frequency. It will certainly improve emergency response and improve communication among first responders,” said Campbell.

The new system is similar to its predecessor the Capital District Emergency Radio Network. That network had a shared frequency for the command posts and communications officers of the state and local agencies linked to the system. Some agencies, like Colonie police, will keep that structure in place, while others will have car-to-car communications available.

The sheer size of Colonie’s police, fire and paramedic fleets, in addition to the number of radios that would need to be equipped, made using the old command structure under the new system the ideal choice, said Police Chief Steven Heider.

‘We want to make sure that our communications people are involved. They are at the center of everything. They can look at a map and see where each of our cars our,” said Heider.

If a multi agency emergency happens in Colonie, all police, fire and paramedic personnel will be tuned into the ESIRS frequency and linked directly to Colonie’s command center, he said. Vice versa, if Colonie police were serving in neighboring municipalities, their command would coordinate with outside agencies and direct Colonie first responders accordingly.

Several weeks ago, the system was put to the test in Watervliet when an auto accident caused a power outage in the city. Watervliet authorities were able to coordinate police, paramedic and fire services directly with neighboring Green Island agencies, said Campbell.

“All of this stuff is in the vein of 9-1-1 and in the vein of all law enforcement cooperating with each other,” said Heider. “It’s another step to keep people in the loop.”

Campbell couldn’t exactly when ESIRS would go online. He could only say that it has been in the works for years and will soon be online.

You can contact parkerg@spotlightnews.com with any questions. Also, feel free to post comments below.
 
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ESIRS is on the air. As an emergency interop channel, it is rarely used. More rarely even than CDERN.

CDERN is a regional network. As far as I know, ESIRS is for Albany County.

Also, CDERN is intended as a point-to-point channel for base stations to use. ESIRS allows all sorts of units to communicate with each other.
 

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yes dave esirs is only for albany county right now.

cdern is as far as i know statewide.

time to time cdern is active for bolos /officer safety /stolen autos/ missing persons/ warrent info/ escapes and other good pd stuff that needs to be shared with other agencies.
 
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CDERN is only available in Albany, Rensselaer, Saratoga, and Schenectady counties. It's the Capital District Emergency Radio Net.
 

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DaveNF2G said:
CDERN is only available in Albany, Rensselaer, Saratoga, and Schenectady counties. It's the Capital District Emergency Radio Net.

Dave,

One time when I heard the CDERN on 460.400 (110.9 PL) doing what sounded like a mega radio check to alot of different police agencies, I heard them radio check to New York State Police Troop G Zone 3 which covers my area in Montgomery County. So would it be in my best interest to keep this frequency in my scanner since I might catch something directed to the NYSP Troop G Zone 3 sector from time to time. Please let me know.

I realize that the vast majority of communications will come from the counties you listed above, but just incase Zone 3 of Troop G uses this frequency shouldn't I have it in my scanner.
 
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Only base stations have access to CDERN. If anything happens that is relevant to your area, SP Princetown would receive it via CDERN, but the troopers would have to be alerted via normal SP channels.

CDERN is sometimes also used for county-to-county fire mutual aid requests in the capital area also. I've never heard any of the four counties use 45.88 MHz for that.
 
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