A painful net

[mastr]

There's a net around here where the net control operator can't make it reliably into the repeater. He's unreadable most of the time. People tell him and he goes on with the net. It's awful.

Have any of the ones who "tell him" offered to step up and call the net?

 

[mancow]

Be thankful. I have set up two UHF repeaters, one VHF repeater and a six meter repeater at 1000s of personal cost. None see any use at all. Literally, they sit dormant unless I key them up on the way to work or whatever just to make sure they are still there.

I'm going to tear it all out, sell it and move on.

 

[W5lz]

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Sorry about the above, computer gone crazy. There are two types of nets. One is specific about it's content, the other is for entertainment. Either can be strict or relaxed depending on who/how it's run. If you participate then follow the general format of that net. If you can't do that then stay out of it. Simple, isn't it?

 

[AK9R]

If you participate then follow the general format of that net. If you can't do that then stay out of it. Simple, isn't it?

I think you may have missed the original poster's premise. He's not talking about people who disrupt nets by not following the net format. He's talking about net controls who are not physically or mentally or technically capable of generating a good RF signal, taking check-ins, and managing a net.

 

[robertwbob]

maybe the guy asked to try and they let him. sure its bad but remember you might be the very next to come down with that dreaded symptom. i talk to a guy thats blind,lost his wife last fall,and is loosing his memory. sure he can be a pita but i stop n tell myself i could be next so i try my best to deal with his troubles. oh thats just my opinion n my way to be

 

[O-B-1]

I have no time to run daily nets at their scheduled on-air appearances.

I have post-graduate classes to do, research for my dissertation, and other tasks. Never make assumptions about others.

But you have time to listen to the net, and complain on this website?
I must be missing something here, unless it is part of your post graduate studies and dissertation?
Maybe a PhD in Geriatrics?
Just curious.

 

[Lauri-CoyoteFrostbite]

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"Pause Stranger, when you pass me by,
As you are now, so once was I.
As I am now, so soon you will be, .............." *

Think you will always be that silver-tongue heart throb on the local radio nets ?
Like, Yeah you will :

‘Never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.’


Lauri




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[robertwbob]

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"Pause Stranger, when you pass me by,
As you are now, so once was I.
As I am now, so soon you will be, .............." *

Think you will always be that silver-tongue heart throb on the local radio nets ?
Like, Yeah you will :

‘Never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.’


Lauri

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so true,sad but true. we all need to slow down and smell the roses

 

[W5lz]

Amateur radio has a wide variety of people in it and participation is essential to enjoy the hobby, but why does a club allow someone who clearly has memory care issues / dementia to run a net? Today's controller had no idea who was calling in, was writing callsigns down on something that had unrelated callsigns and information from some other time, continuously forgot the topics, keyed up the repeater without saying anything for substantial lengths of time, admitted on the air that "I have no clue what I'm supposed to do", and kept calling for people who weren't there. Members tried to guide the controller along, but without much success.

It was painful to listen to and as someone who had a close relative who had dementia, I had to turn it off. I hope someone is providing living assistance to that amateur.

...probably 'cuz no one else would do it.

 

[MUTNAV]

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"Pause Stranger, when you pass me by,
As you are now, so once was I.
As I am now, so soon you will be, .............." *

Think you will always be that silver-tongue heart throb on the local radio nets ?
Like, Yeah you will :

‘Never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.’


Lauri

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Lots of religious references in their. The full quotes were nice.

Thanks
Joel

 

[MUTNAV]

For some reason NMELFI's recent comment didn't show up.


"MUTNAV said:
Lots of religious references in their. The full quotes were nice.

Thanks
Joel"

to which nmelfi replied

"Whats wrong with religion? The country was founded on it with morals and self decency. "


The partial (and probably inaccurate saying) that I was talking about, goes something like this.
As I was told to say to myself when passing a graveyard

"As I am now, you once were.
As you are now, I will be."

And the silver tongued comment, applies to both a "silver tongued devil" (refering to a deceiver I believe), but also
a monk that was a great speaker, but didn't realize it except that he kept on being asked
to speak for greater and greater audiences, he was said to have a "silver tongue".

Lauri-Coyote mentioned actual quotes, not the bastardized versions that I had learned, which I appreciated.

The other appropriate comment for a person having difficulties like the person trying to lead the net would be

"There but for the grace of God, go I."


Thanks
Joel

 

[Lauri-CoyoteFrostbite]

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Smiles guys-----

Actually the quote --

‘Never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.’

....comes from the 16-17th century writings of John Donne, a rival to this day of Shakespeare. The whole prose in its entirety is probably familiar to many-

"........No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend’s or of thine own were; any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee......"

Donne was a man of religion, and a powerful writer. When he wrote the "Bell Tolls" he was very ill and dying-- a circumstance that no doubt influence his introspective prose.

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Ernest Hemingway’s famous novel about the Spanish Civil War was named For Whom the Bell Tolls after Donne’s line , and Donne's works greatly influenced others like George Orwell and 1984.

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The "as you are now" saying was quite a popular tombstone epitaph. I have seen a variation on a tombstone from the 18th century in the Old North Presbyterian Church in Baltimore Maryland.

It left a haunting, lasting impression on me.


Lauri


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[MUTNAV]

Thanks

I'd love to say I mixed the quotes up. But I just got them really wrong.

I didn't know the "no man is an island" and "for whom the bell tolls" , were actually part of the same thing originally.


Thanks
Joel