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For your power supply, use terminals that attach to the posts, not the banana plugs. The banana plugs are too easy to have a poor connection, or end up swapped. I see it has a detachable power cord, so having dedicated cables might make life easier.
 

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@popnokick SWR came in today, but it appears it has N type connections instead of 239 like advertised. I cannot find one that shows a 239 connector- they all say they are So239- if so i need connectors for the radio and antenna.

1. Do all these SWR meters like this come with N type?
2. What connector do i need to the radio coming in
3. what connector do i need for antenna?

I think i need https://www.amazon.com/Antenna-coaxial-adapter-Adapter-connector/dp/B076GXJ63N/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=30J1BA1OJ4802&keywords=uhf+female+to+n+type+male&qid=1649712846&sprefix=uhf+female+to+n+type+male,aps,84&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExTkxKMExYTzZPVk5RJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjA5MDI2SkxLOVg4M0ZEWjBUJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA2MTQyODgySFBXTk81WEQ0U0hBJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

can anyone confirm?


Also, trying to plug in the back of the power supply from the radio with banana clips (the ones below). They do not make a full connection in the back of the radio- so instead of wrapping the wire around the post, there is a hole in it that it will accept some kind of plug- not sure which one.
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Is the pic of the power supply you sent actually the one you have? If so, and if you are in the U.S. - that is NOT a power supply designed for use in the U.S. The AC power socket is marked "INPUT 220V 50Hz". A supply intended for use in the U.S. would be marked "INPUT 120V 60Hz" or something very close to that.

Regarding the SWR meter (and as I wrote earlier in this thread) you are going to need adapters to allow connection to the N-connectors on your meter. Specifically, you asked -
1. Do all these SWR meters like this come with N type?
NO. But the one you have does have N connectors because they are lower signal loss.
2. What connector do i need to the radio coming in
Example adapter: https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Connector-Coaxial-Connectors-XRDS_RF/dp/B083WDV529/ref=sr_1_4?crid=124YUV8C2YNPG&keywords=n+male+to+uhf+female+adapter&qid=1649779014&sprefix=n+male+to+uhf,aps,139&sr=8-4
- PLUS - a short coaxial jumper cable with a PL-259 plug on each end.... like this -
https://www.amazon.com/Superbat-PL-259-Digital-Antenna-Analyzer/dp/B07H584XTK/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=37RGNJCT3IIK6&keywords=pl259+jumper+cable&qid=1649779262&sprefix=pl259+jum,aps,136&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzMU5ZWDMwWk1JTkoxJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjY3NjgwMkNQUkc1VDZTR0c1VCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMzM4NjIzMUNMMk5PM0dQR0tLMCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
3. what connector do i need for antenna?
Example adapter: https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Connector-Coaxial-Connectors-XRDS_RF/dp/B083WDV529/ref=sr_1_4?crid=124YUV8C2YNPG&keywords=n+male+to+uhf+female+adapter&qid=1649779014&sprefix=n+male+to+uhf,aps,139&sr=8-4
 

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I hAVE. THE US VERSION, so all.l I was looking for the proper plugs to use in the back for the power supply, but i was told banans clips, which i got, but they only go half way in and when plugged in it wont turn on. So the red and black terminals twist to allow me to wrap the wire around the poles and tighte and it seems cxorrect but i ws looking for a "plug from the wire into thode 2 terminals in the back so it would be a plug in connection that looks good rather than wrapping the wires around the terminal. The plugs go halfway in so i guess i have the wrong connectors Want to keep it as clean as possible but no one can tell me what kind of plugs are needed to plug in to the whole instead of wrapping the wire around the plug and tightening them. Just want solid connections from the wire from the poweer supply to the whole in theplug whcih non i have found that work.
 

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I have both types, as do many of our club members. But yes, the roll-up version is portable and meant to be hung vertically in an attic or upper-level of a structure... preferably in / near a window. The PVC version is basically end caps and an SO239 coax socket. You supply the PVC (specified in the instructions). Hang or mount the PVC pipe vertically on a rooftop, in tree, etc. Its lightweight makes it very easy to mount, even using something like metal hose clamps with the rooftop plumbing air vent (as pictured on his website). It is also highly wind-resistant if outdoors.
 

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So technically i could drape it outside my window? It's hard to see on the website what connections come with it (it says many) and i am assuming it appears to come with paracord attached to it.

is there a pro/con on each model? I could take the roll up version and put it in PVC myself? If so, would i need to drill a hole through the end cap and make my own connection? In the image the roll up version appears to have connectors at both ends?

thanks, just wondering if i should get the roll up or wait for the pvc version to come back in. Same antenna and i assume the roll up one is meant to be used hanging between trees outside. If the roll up version is is just paracord attached to it, trying to figure out if cutting it would ruin the antenna.

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For your power supply, use terminals that attach to the posts, not the banana plugs. The banana plugs are too easy to have a poor connection, or end up swapped. I see it has a detachable power cord, so having dedicated cables might make life easier.

thanks. i have ring connectors but was trying to make it "prettier" without my rats nest of wires. i purchased a duplicate black and red power cord to use for the house but they only come in 10feet or more, so i will have to cut and splice in new connection from the radio to the power supply, and i figured "plugging" in a shorter cord with the fuses (which are at the other end of the cord, giving me 9 feet of cable to hide). Was looking for a shorter set of wires with the fuses closer to the t plug (radio side) so i dont have 9 feet of cable just laying on the desk.

I reckon i could them shorter and then resplice in the fuses closer to the radio and supply but wanted something better looking, like a 3 foot cord with the t connections and whatever i can do to tie in to the power source connectors)

it seems no one sells a shorter version of this cable.
 

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For your power supply, use terminals that attach to the posts, not the banana plugs. The banana plugs are too easy to have a poor connection, or end up swapped. I see it has a detachable power cord, so having dedicated cables might make life easier.

what are the names of that type of connector in the back of the power supply? They unscrew and allow me to put a ring connector on it, but it also has a hole in the center and i cant seem to find the name of that conection type and if it allows a plug into it. Just wanted to make everything look "prettier" so i can get rid of the rats nest of cable going from the radio to the supply.
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So technically i could drape it outside my window? It's hard to see on the website what connections come with it (it says many) and i am assuming it appears to come with paracord attached to it.

is there a pro/con on each model? I could take the roll up version and put it in PVC myself? If so, would i need to drill a hole through the end cap and make my own connection? In the image the roll up version appears to have connectors at both ends?

thanks, just wondering if i should get the roll up or wait for the pvc version to come back in. Same antenna and i assume the roll up one is meant to be used hanging between trees outside. If the roll up version is is just paracord attached to it, trying to figure out if cutting it would ruin the antenna.
Here are the complete specs and instructions for each of the Ed Fong antennas. PLEASE READ THIS -
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The PVC kit is simply two end caps for a PVC pipe WHICH YOU SUPPLY (readily available at any home / hardware store). The end cap comes with the necessary SO239 RF connector already installed. There is no paracord in the kit... you supply whatever is needed for your mounting situation, which obviously could range from no paracord at all (e.g. hanging in an upstairs / attic window) to many feet (e.g. pulled up into a tree). They have NO way of knowing how much paracord your installation will need and therefore do not supply it.
Whether you use the PVC version outdoors or the roll-up version indoors, either antenna MUST be hung or mounted vertically.
Pros and cons? Both antennas behave the same electrically and from an RF perspective. The PVC version is protected from the weather for outdoor mounting (but will also work indoors if you wish). I wouldn't advise using the roll-up version outdoors as a permanent antenna. If you are putting it outdoors, use the PVC version.
 

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Yes, you can use a J-pole antenna indoors. Put a push pin, map pin, etc., in the dry wall up high on an exterior wall. Stay away from windows or sections of wall that have an electrical outlet in them. Hang the J-pole from the pin and let it hang down along the wall.

J-pole antennas, from any source, must be installed so that they are at least 2-feet away from any metal objects. That includes the wiring in your walls. Since you live in an apartment, it may have metal studs or metal columns in your walls.

The Ed Fong DBJ-1 is intended to be installed in 5 feet of ¾ inch Class 200 PVC pipe that you buy locally. The antenna comes with the necessary end caps to put onto the pipe. The antenna does not come with any means of mounting the antenna so it's up to you to provide U-bolts, hose clamps, etc., for mounting. The antenna ships with an SO-239 connector on the lower end cap. You will need to supply a length of coax from the antenna to the radio. I suggest RG-8X or LMR240 for short runs.

The Ed Fong DBJ-2 is a roll-up J-pole intended to be installed where ever you can hang it. It comes with a BNC connector at the end of the J-pole and a 6-foot length of unspecified coax with connectors. I'm not sure that 6 feet is enough distance between the antenna and the radio which is where you will be.

Note that Ed Fong is not the only source of J-pole antennas. MFJ Enterprises, N9TAX, and others have antennas of similar design.

Your radio comes with an SO-239 connector for RF--the "antenna connector" in the Amazon listing. Whatever coax you get to run between the antenna and the radio will need a PL-259 connector to mate with your radio. SO-239 is the female connector and PL-259 is the male connector for a series known in some circles as "UHF" connectors.
 

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The power connector for your radio is what is known as a "2-pin T-connector". It is very common on Japanese and Chinese mobile radios.

Your radio should have included a power cable with a T-connector on one end and bare wires on the other.

Some power supplies come with what are known as 5-way binding posts. These are the red and black connectors on the power supply. Binding posts have a plastic "nut" that screws down on the terminal. The terminal often has a transverse hole drilled through it so you can insert bare wires crossways in the post. 5-way binding posts can accept banana plugs (these are pins a little larger than 1/8" in diameter), bare wires inserted crossways, bare wires wrapped around the post, a pin connector (about 3/32" diameter) inserted crossways, or a ring or spade terminal.

Other power supplies come with much simpler power terminals that will only accept bare wires. Some come with terminals that will accept bare wires or ring or spade terminals.
 

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what are the names of that type of connector in the back of the power supply? They unscrew and allow me to put a ring connector on it, but it also has a hole in the center and i cant seem to find the name of that conection type and if it allows a plug into it. Just wanted to make everything look "prettier" so i can get rid of the rats nest of cable going from the radio to the supply.
thx
As AK9R already stated, the connectors on the power supply take banana plugs. (Which are what you had pictures of, in an earlier post.)

One way to clean up the wiring is to use a distribution system, like a Rig Runner. There are systems that you wire directly to, without connectors, too. (Common with marine installations.)
 

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Thank you again. @popnokick i was unaware of that site.

I was concerned from the image supplied on https://grapevineamateurradio.com/products/ed-fong-j-pole-antennas-dual-band-220-and-roll-up?variant=32440756633779 because it shows the roll up version with longer cord which looked like the paracord that came with a survival antenna i bought which was only good for 144-147. I didn't want to make that mistake again.
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In the picture on the end of Ed's antennas, there appears to be 2 conections- 1 is obviously for the radio, what is the other one? Is that just an extra piece of cable (like a pig tail) that is included, or something else? I noticed the PVC version does not show it in the images posted online. It seems the website store on the edsantennas is down and i have to email the order per the first page.

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According to Ed's site, most are around 5 feet, with the DBJ-UHF around 3 ft. The grapevine site does not provide as much data, hence my confusion. What is on the other end of the roll up antenna?

Power Supply: i do have the red and black terminals you speak of. I am currently running ring posts (changed from bare wires) and i purchased banana cables as seen in this thread earlier around Monday at 4:34 PM- which did not fit into the holes, so i beleive i am running the wrong size banana plug. Had to go to tractor supply and another tool shop to find them, and this is all they had. May run to guitar center, but does anyone know the size of the plug i need? @AK9R you said banana plugs (these are pins a little larger than 1/8" in diameter).
Do you know what exact size i need? The box i have says it will accept 12g wire 5mm-6mm (which i know that print doesnt make sense)

thanks again everyone, i promise i am learning.
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the banana plugs i have do not seat properle ie- they dont plug in and i cant even turn them on with these
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is there another size i need?
 

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So my current predicament, is that the plugs i have are too big and the 5 way terminals are different from normal ones with the holes in them. I currently have ring connectors on them but wanted a plug and play version so i can take the radio in the car and vice versa with ease, plus it just looks better. I cant find anywhere online via Anytone's manual or other videos that tell me exactly what type of connectors i have and what gauge the plugs should be for optimal connection.

Any ideas? Should i get 4mm plugs? Is there something in the plug i need to remove as demonstarted by one youtuber who pulled out extra plastic to allow the plugs above to fit? I had nothing to remove...

not a huge deal but i want to keep it tidy with a short cable for use inside while i still need the longer cable for jeep installation. See images for clarity.

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Why not just user a ring terminal with a short piece of wire to an Anderson Powerpole connector? Something like this but much shorter from the power supply. Then you could run a longer version to the battery in your jeep and have a good solid connection that won't vibrate loose and that can't accidentally be plugged in backwards. Banana plugs are notorious for loose connections and I certainly wouldn't trust them in something bouncing around like a jeep.
 

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+1 on the Anderson Powerpole. It's the way to go if you're moving equipment from base to mobile, or want a universal method to attach all of your gear (or others) to a 12VDC connection... whether in a vehicle or to an AC power supply providing 12V.
https://powerwerx.com
 

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thanks @cmjonesinc and @popnokick - i will do that. I thought banana plugs were secure, but the point about the jeep makes total sense.

Do you know the exact gauge of ring terminal i need? And the size of the actual ring that goes on the terminal? i bought a variety box at a tool store but none of them fit properly, they are all too small...and the manual is of no help. It just says the connector should be rated for 30amps
 
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In my experience the ring terminals supplied with the Powerpole / PowerWerx cables fit on the Astron and other popular power supplies. This web page (on the website I sent you in my prior message... did you look at it?) has all you need... and then some -
https://powerwerx.com/adapter-extension-cables

I did, but the actual link was different. First link took me to homepage. Thanks.
 
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