Apopka Information Wrong?

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stroh

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I seem to recall someone saying that Apopka switched to an APCO P25 digital system. The information downloaded from the RR database via ARC396 indicates that it is a Motorola Type 2 800 mhz Standard system.

Can anyone verify if the information in the database is current and correct.

Michael
 

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If when manually selected, the CC produces this SysID 2618, then it is standard as far as the scanner is concerned. The ID would be 3 characters instead of 4 if the system was 9600 baud P25.

The database page indicates 3600 baud which has talkgroups in analog also.
 

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I left it as is and get some broken transmissions. The third line of the display sometimes shows P25 and othertimes LNK. When I changed the system type to APCO P25 I hear nothing. I think the cause of the broken transmissions is the distance between Oviedo and Apopka.
 

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stroh said:
I seem to recall someone saying that Apopka switched to an APCO P25 digital system. The information downloaded from the RR database via ARC396 indicates that it is a Motorola Type 2 800 mhz Standard system.

Can anyone verify if the information in the database is current and correct.

Michael
yes apopka pd and fd they are digital and the dispatch for eatonville pd apopka in digital 800mhz type 2 system call me kevin cell 407- 283-3351 if i can be of any help,
 

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stroh said:
I left it as is and get some broken transmissions. The third line of the display sometimes shows P25 and othertimes LNK. When I changed the system type to APCO P25 I hear nothing.

From reading the database entry for Apopka, it should be programmed as a Moto Type II as opposed to a P25 system (for 396/996 users). Because there are some analog TGs on that particular system, it should be programmed as Moto II.

The system in a neighboring county of mine is a mixed-mode analog/P25 system (for reference, the Moto system I'm referring to here is Montgomery County, Pa.), and I have that programmed as Type II in NFM (this appears to be a similar set-up to the Orange County system).

For two other Moto digital systems that I monitor semi-regularly (City of Philadelphia and State of Delaware), because there are no analog TGs, I have them programmed as Type II but set the modulation at FM as opposed to NFM.

I think the cause of the broken transmissions is the distance between Oviedo and Apopka.

That's not unusual for a P25 system - trunked or conventional. My local PD is on a P25 conventional freq and clear (no Winter Park secrecy here). It comes in fairly decently on my 396 with the stock antenna about 10-12 miles to the east into western Delaware County, but going about 5-6 miles to the west (with some hilly terrain thrown in), reception can be spotty at best with lots of broken transmissions (though there's a tower owned by a neighboring town from whom my town is trying to secure space for a transmitter to improve coverage in the northern edges of it's patrol area).

Judging by your statement above, it might also be the strength of signal - or lack thereof - of the Apopka system.
 

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Don't have a 396 or similar yet but the system is P-25 digital not a 9600 baud system. It is simply a type II with digital modulation.
 

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When you call a system "P25 digital" that is the term for a 9600baud system, you call Apopka a "mixed mode" system. It is NOT programmed into the scanner as P25.
 

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rdale said:
When you call a system "P25 digital" that is the term for a 9600baud system, you call Apopka a "mixed mode" system. It is NOT programmed into the scanner as P25.

you're right, but you might add that a "mixed-mode" 3.6kb Type II system using digital voice does utilizes the P25 ASTRO IMBE vocoder. http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Project_25, so grc33 does have the right idea. This is something that is easy to get confused about (been there before :D)
 
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BTW to get slightly off the main target how are the 396 scanners. I have a 895 and a Pro96?
 

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Great. And there are a ton of threads and Wiki's already on the scanner so you might check there.
 
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