APX 7000XE Scan list will scan but had no audio.

[Press517]

Just got an APX 7000XE and am trying to program local Police and Fire Channels into my scan list to scan without affiliating or transmitting. The radio is displaying the correct talk group at the time that it is talking, but it is not putting out any audio on that channel.

 

[KevinC]

Just got an APX 7000XE and am trying to program local Police and Fire Channels into my scan list to scan without affiliating or transmitting. The radio is displaying the correct talk group at the time that it is talking, but it is not putting out any audio on that channel.

Your band plan is probably incorrect.

 

[Press517]

Its 7/800 & VHF

 

[jeepsandradios]

Maybe sell the radio and buy a unication ? You appear to have no idea how to program a radio.

 

[mbnv992]

Here we go again. I swear this forum gets 3-4 of these posts a week here now.

No wonder most PD’s are going encrypted now.

 

[KE4ZNR]

Here we go again. I swear this forum gets 3-4 of these posts a week here now.

No wonder most PD’s are going encrypted now.

I read these posts then sit back with my GenWatch and wait for them to show up on the system.
Then the sweet sweet inhibit happens.

 

[MTS2000des]

I read these posts then sit back with my GenWatch and wait for them to show up on the system.
Then the sweet sweet inhibit happens.

Yup...then wait for the "my radio turns on then off" threads to appear.
Job security. I love my SMTP triggers too. I can be at home when one of these show up with a reg request. Remote into PRNM suite>RCM>Selective Inhibit and wait for "Successful" to appear.

 

[natedawg1604]

Here we go again. I swear this forum gets 3-4 of these posts a week here now.

.....

Maybe someone at RR should update the ancient pinned thread "Do you want to monitor a Trunked system with a Moto? Read This!", and just provide actual instructions about how to do NAS. Maybe that would cut down on some of these constant threads about the same exact issue. The information has been out there for decades, for reasons I don't quite understand it seems a lot of people still have difficulty finding it.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

The information has been out there for decades, for reasons I don't quite understand it seems a lot of people still have difficulty finding it.

Folks (particularly newbies) don't bother to research issues before starting new threads. Some find it easier to start a new thread & wait for a response linking to another thread or more containing detailed discussion about the issue at hand. Some things will never change here

 

[Tank67]

Maybe someone at RR should update the ancient pinned thread "Do you want to monitor a Trunked system with a Moto? Read This!", and just provide actual instructions about how to do NAS. Maybe that would cut down on some of these constant threads about the same exact issue. The information has been out there for decades, for reasons I don't quite understand it seems a lot of people still have difficulty finding it.

While I agree that thread should be updated (maybe with a little bit less sensationalism), that thread mentions why there isn't actual instructions on NAS located here.

 

[mbnv992]

Giving these inexperienced “radio tecknishuns” step by step instructions to NAS is even more of a disaster waiting to happen. Very very bad idea IMO.

 

[N4DES]

I read these posts then sit back with my GenWatch and wait for them to show up on the system.
Then the sweet sweet inhibit happens.

Ditto!

 

[WRTF671]

I'm still not sure why people will spend so much on a radio that will do poorly what a scanner that cost 1/10th as much will do excellently. Don't get me wrong, I have several APXs in various iterations and I definitely have scan zones set up in them for local public safety but nothing NAS. To be fair, this is what I do for a living and I work with a municipality that uses an 800 trunk, a railroad on VHF a company that uses UHF business band and several public safety groups in between. Getting my hands on an APX 8000 was a lifesaver because only taking one radio when I leave in the morning is helpful but if it wasn't for work then I was footing my own bill I would 100% use a scanner when I wanted to be nosy...

 

[K2NEC]

I'm still not sure why people will spend so much on a radio that will do poorly what a scanner that cost 1/10th as much will do excellently. Don't get me wrong, I have several APXs in various iterations and I definitely have scan zones set up in them for local public safety but nothing NAS. To be fair, this is what I do for a living and I work with a municipality that uses an 800 trunk, a railroad on VHF a company that uses UHF business band and several public safety groups in between. Getting my hands on an APX 8000 was a lifesaver because only taking one radio when I leave in the morning is helpful but if it wasn't for work then I was footing my own bill I would 100% use a scanner when I wanted to be nosy...

Because those of us that know what we are doing with radios are used to the interface and prefer the audio over a scanner.
I'd argue that my XL-200 would blow a scanner out of the water any day. But I'm not trying to get off topic here....

 

[chrismol1]

I love my APX for NAS. I spent a bit of time coming up with a custom audio profile that makes the audio crisp, clean and punchy, way different than the "Normal" or any other audio profile moto recommends. It has proprietary Group Services so I see custom alphanumeric radio IDs. It never clips or misses a transmission, its built for the system its monitoring. I have Intelligent Priority Scan setup with 2 priority talkgroups of my liking that works perfectly and most of all, its a MOTOROLA and you can top that hardon

 

[hp8920]

I'd point out that if unauthorized affiliation is such a safety hazard, and if people are going to keep buying surplus radios of eBay, then system owners should demand Motorola to make it easy to do NAS. AFAIK, it's mainly a Motorola issue, as Harris and BK can be set up far easier.

Scanners are going to exist, so people aren't hearing anything they couldn't otherwise. Call it harm reduction.

Perhaps the real issue is it defeats the ability of Motorola to sell you expensive stuff, like advanced system keys, KVLs and KMFs, and monitoring services, to fix a problem they created.

 

[chrismol1]

The instructions for NAS should include selecting the Channel ID TX Offset other than -45. Anything other than -45, if the user should be an idiot and select a talkgroup it will not transmit to that specific system if the default is other than -45 for many motorola systems. So anything other than -45

 

[ElroyJetson]

I frankly hate scanners. They suck. Oh, they may have features and a high gadget factor but their quality and durability and audio performance is mostly firmly in the "toy" category. I have a very reasonable expectation that I can drop an XTS5000 or an APX or my XL185 multiple times and expect it to suffer no damage but a few scuffs. Something I'd never expect out of a scanner.

As long as it's possible to do so, my "scanner" will be a Motorola or Harris radio programmed to the NAS methodology using every practice possible that will make it a glorified scanner, receiving only and never transmitting a single signal on any system that I am not an authorized user of.

However, I have the knowledge required to do this safely and stealthily. If it's a requirement to do so, I'll go so far as to disable the transmitter via component removal to be absolutely SURE.

I do not recommend that those who have a lesser knowledge level should follow my path. In fact even if you know more about the subject than I do, I still don't recommend it.

I see it as my right to listen, my choice to use a radio instead of a scanner, and my obligation to do so in a manner that never betrays its presence to even the most paranoid and observant system manager.

Here and now, it's easier to accomplish those goals with a Harris radio than a Motorola. For a genuinely REASONABLE price I can simply purchase the required software with full access keys for unrestricted programming. It's not cheap, but the radio will cost me more than the software and access keys. And Harris radios include true receive only functionality built right into the software, something Motorola seems to be opposed to offering and always has been.

 

[IAmSixNine]

This is why I have a BK KNG2 radio. RX only, click that and i never have to worry about NAS programming or accidently being on the wrong channel on the radio.

 

[junior71]

If you are not unmuting your band plan is wrong. Plenty of guys around that can do it right for you before you turn your radio into a brick and have to pay one of the said guys to unbrick it.