Avon Fire System On The Air

[radios4bill]

The new Avon Fire System and Proposed "Lorain County" System is on the air for testing. It is a Harris P25 II system installed by Cleveland Communication. The Call Sign is WRFG876 and the sites are the new water tower at Route 83 and Mills Road and Walker Road. I will post info as soon as the TG's come in!

 

[Nasby]

So is it likely that all of Lorain County will eventually be on this system?

 

[medic5399]

So is it likely that all of Lorain County will eventually be on this system?

Looks like it. There was a lot of fire chiefs speaking at today's Commissioner's meeting. You can find it on YouTube

 

[RT48]

North Ridgeville has already decided not to join this system.

North Ridgeville Council turns down ordinance for L3Harris radio system

The "five-city radio" plan will go forward without North Ridgeville.

chroniclet.com

 

[medic5399]

North Ridgeville has already decided not to join this system.

North Ridgeville Council turns down ordinance for L3Harris radio system

The "five-city radio" plan will go forward without North Ridgeville.

chroniclet.com

They will most likely pass it at the next City Council meeting. They added it to the agenda at the last meeting

 

[jdolina]

I was able to monitor the control channel this morning before work. Weird but dsdplus wouldn't decode anything. I was able to pull the following from pro96com. The NAC is 293h

 

[RT48]

My BCD436HP running in Discovery mode picked up two TGs: 4600 and 4602.

 

[wd8chl]

Looks like it. There was a lot of fire chiefs speaking at today's Commissioner's meeting. You can find it on YouTube

With only 3 sites, it won't work.
All they have to do is talk to some of the chiefs in Medina Co. Lodi, Seville, and some others.

 

[radios4bill]

Has anyone verified P 25II or P 25?

 

[maus92]

Has anyone verified P 25II or P 25?

It would have to be Phase 2 if it's using 700 MHz channels.

 

[mtindor]

How about somebody getting the full system information and submitting it. I mean all freqs, RFSS, Site ID, peers/neighbors.

And if DSDPlus isn't decoding it all, you broke your DSDPlus.

 

[mtindor]

Ok it's in the DB now. Start sleuthing out talkgroups

 

[jdolina]

How about somebody getting the full system information and submitting it. I mean all freqs, RFSS, Site ID, peers/neighbors.

And if DSDPlus isn't decoding it all, you broke your DSDPlus.

Yet everything else decodes just fine.

 

[mtindor]

Yet everything else decodes just fine.

And you still broke your DSDPlus. There is nothing special about that system that DSDPlus wouldn't include it. You've got some setting turned on or something that shouldn't be.

Mike

 

[medic5399]

With only 3 sites, it won't work.
All they have to do is talk to some of the chiefs in Medina Co. Lodi, Seville, and some others.

As of now it's only for the 5 cities. Avon, Avon Lake, North Ridgeville (if approved by City Council on 12/20), Sheffield Lake, and Sheffield Village.

 

[jdolina]

And you still broke your DSDPlus. There is nothing special about that system that DSDPlus wouldn't include it. You've got some setting turned on or something that shouldn't be.

Mike

Turns out not broken. Just can't decode P25 II out of SDR# works if I run FMP24 for phase 2 systems.




Sync:+P25p1 NAC:293 TSDU SYNC_BCST US=0 IST=1 MMU=0 MC=0 VL=0 uSlot=1-2401
Sync:+P25p1 NAC:293 TSDU SN-DATA_CHN_ANN_EXP DSO=00 TXch=851.00625 RXch=851.00625 DAC=FFFF
Sync:+P25p1 NAC:293 TSDU RFSS_STS_BCST SysID=047 LRA=50 RFSS=50 Site=50 CC=770.30625 SC=60
Sync:+P25p1 NAC:293 TSDU NET_STS_BCST WACN ID=00001 SysID=047 LRA=50 CC=770.30625 SC=60
Sync:+P25p1 NAC:293 TSDU IDEN_UP ID=2 Base=762.00625 Offset=+30 Spacing=6.25 BW=12.5
Sync:+P25p1 NAC:293 TSDU SYS_SRV_BCST SSA=0C0C00 SSS=0C0C00 RPL=1
Sync:+P25p1 NAC:293 TSDU SCCB RFSS=50 Site=50 [ch=772.43125 SSC=04] [ch=772.78125 SSC=04]

 

[mtindor]

Turns out not broken. Just can't decode P25 II out of SDR# works if I run FMP24 for phase 2 systems.

View attachment 113778


Sync:+P25p1 NAC:293 TSDU SYNC_BCST US=0 IST=1 MMU=0 MC=0 VL=0 uSlot=1-2401
Sync:+P25p1 NAC:293 TSDU SN-DATA_CHN_ANN_EXP DSO=00 TXch=851.00625 RXch=851.00625 DAC=FFFF
Sync:+P25p1 NAC:293 TSDU RFSS_STS_BCST SysID=047 LRA=50 RFSS=50 Site=50 CC=770.30625 SC=60
Sync:+P25p1 NAC:293 TSDU NET_STS_BCST WACN ID=00001 SysID=047 LRA=50 CC=770.30625 SC=60
Sync:+P25p1 NAC:293 TSDU IDEN_UP ID=2 Base=762.00625 Offset=+30 Spacing=6.25 BW=12.5
Sync:+P25p1 NAC:293 TSDU SYS_SRV_BCST SSA=0C0C00 SSS=0C0C00 RPL=1
Sync:+P25p1 NAC:293 TSDU SCCB RFSS=50 Site=50 [ch=772.43125 SSC=04] [ch=772.78125 SSC=04]

I didn't know you were using SDR#. FMP24/FMPP/FMA + DSDPlus linked has absolutely no issues. I would not expect SDR# + DSDplus to handle a P25 Simulcast system very well.

 

[jdolina]

I didn't know you were using SDR#. FMP24/FMPP/FMA + DSDPlus linked has absolutely no issues. I would not expect SDR# + DSDplus to handle a P25 Simulcast system very well.

I was just parking on the CC to watch talk groups and messages which works for Phase I even simulcast

 

[wa8pyr]

It would have to be Phase 2 if it's using 700 MHz channels.

Incorrect, there is no requirement for 700 MHz to use Phase II. Nearly all state-owned MARCS sites are using 700 MHz and are running Phase I.

Many new systems going on line these days are Phase II from the beginning, but this is more for future-proofing than anything else.

 

[maus92]

Incorrect, there is no requirement for 700 MHz to use Phase II. Nearly all state-owned MARCS sites are using 700 MHz and are running Phase I.

Many new systems going on line these days are Phase II from the beginning, but this is more for future-proofing than anything else.

Mixed 700 / 800 systems frequently run in Phase 1 (or Phase 1 to accommodate older equipment, and Phase 2 for newer equipment - or Phase 1 for Fire and Phase 2 for police and services,) but pure 700 systems are supposed to be 6.25 equivalent by 2024 as the rule was relaxed a few years ago. Building out a new 700 system and not having it 6.25 compliant would be irresponsible. Note that our statewide 700 system runs primarily in Phase 2, but a few channels per site have DDM to accommodate older equipment for mutual aid purposes. New users who join the system must use Phase 2 subscribers.