He's our Assistant/Deputy Fire Marshal for El Paso County
Black Forest fire chief problems
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He's our Assistant/Deputy Fire Marshal for El Paso County
It sounds like we have a visitor (and brought his DTRS radio down here to Colo Springs). I just started hearing South Metro METCOM-1 and 2 TGs down here. I was thinking it was Dave Daley (mentioned in the above quote) with his radio affiliating off of Cheyenne Mountain.
It sounds like they did hire a media relations specialist.
And they say they have uncovered new leads in the case as well...
New leads developed through Black Forest Fire internal investigation : News : FOX21News.com
EDIT: But the Sheriff has now put out his own press release and it says those leads are nothing new and don't help the case.
And they say they have uncovered new leads in the case as well...
New leads developed through Black Forest Fire internal investigation : News : FOX21News.com
EDIT: But the Sheriff has now put out his own press release and it says those leads are nothing new and don't help the case.
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Sheriff says Black Forest Fire District's report full of inaccuracies
Sheriff says Black Forest Fire District's report full of inaccuracies | News - Home
Sheriff says Black Forest Fire District's report full of inaccuracies
Sheriff says Black Forest Fire District's report full of inaccuracies | News - Home
He also said that much of it was a matter of opinion. IMHO (yeah yet another opinion and worth as much) Dan Qualman and Dave Fisher who did the report have much more credibility to me than a politician who needs to be reelected. I know them personally and their qualifications and experience in emergency management far exceeds any and all sheriffs in this state.
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First of all, I agree that the investigators should have more credibility than a local sheriff with a possible political agenda. Although he is at the end of his term limit and cannot be re-elected, I still agree with you on that.
Retired Greenwood Village Police Commander Dave Fisher, one of the investigators hired by the Black Forest board said “nothing could have been done to stop this fire.”
That's a strange thing to hear. Is it still going? The fire WAS stopped after large amounts of resources were authorized and brought in. The question was why did it take so long? The reason for the investigation was to see why it took so long to ask for them and why it took so long to hand over control to the county and state. The Chief and investigators' answer was that the fire was "out of control" and that is a bad time to hand over control. What??? That doesn't even make sense for a fire of that magnitude. But that is what this report has as an excuse for this chief dragging his feet and not handing over control so additional resources could be brought in.
Everyone knows, the quicker you get more resources on a fire, the less damage it will cause, and the quicker it can be stopped. Maybe one more house could have been saved or two more people could have lived. The local residents that lost their home are definitely not satisfied with this "report" and how much it cost ($50,000) for very little detail.
Additionally, The Black Forest Fire Board and Chief Harvey said initially that he passed command to the Sheriff's Office at 3:10 p.m. However, the Black Forest Fire Board's investigator agreed with Maketa's timeline of the fire's initial hours and said the board was incorrect. The investigator's report said Harvey passed command to the Sheriff's Office between 3:45 and 3:55. That is one thing that the investigators did accomplish was to prove that what the Sheriff put out in his timeline was correct and that the board and the Chief was incorrect with the time and the board and the chief were wrong when they called the Sheriff a liar about the times.
Retired Greenwood Village Police Commander Dave Fisher, one of the investigators hired by the Black Forest board said “nothing could have been done to stop this fire.”
That's a strange thing to hear. Is it still going? The fire WAS stopped after large amounts of resources were authorized and brought in. The question was why did it take so long? The reason for the investigation was to see why it took so long to ask for them and why it took so long to hand over control to the county and state. The Chief and investigators' answer was that the fire was "out of control" and that is a bad time to hand over control. What??? That doesn't even make sense for a fire of that magnitude. But that is what this report has as an excuse for this chief dragging his feet and not handing over control so additional resources could be brought in.
Everyone knows, the quicker you get more resources on a fire, the less damage it will cause, and the quicker it can be stopped. Maybe one more house could have been saved or two more people could have lived. The local residents that lost their home are definitely not satisfied with this "report" and how much it cost ($50,000) for very little detail.
Additionally, The Black Forest Fire Board and Chief Harvey said initially that he passed command to the Sheriff's Office at 3:10 p.m. However, the Black Forest Fire Board's investigator agreed with Maketa's timeline of the fire's initial hours and said the board was incorrect. The investigator's report said Harvey passed command to the Sheriff's Office between 3:45 and 3:55. That is one thing that the investigators did accomplish was to prove that what the Sheriff put out in his timeline was correct and that the board and the Chief was incorrect with the time and the board and the chief were wrong when they called the Sheriff a liar about the times.
Wow, KRDO had to go to Reno to talk to the fire chief...
Exclusive: Chief Harvey talks about Black Forest investigation | News - Home
Exclusive: Chief Harvey talks about Black Forest investigation | News - Home
And now they are saying that PR firm and the Black Forest fire department board report may have cost up to $92,000, or more.
They already said it cost about $50,000 but there is $42,000 unaccounted for (after subtracting other unrelated costs).
Black Forest Fire Board member says costs of investigation higher than previously revealed | News - Home
They already said it cost about $50,000 but there is $42,000 unaccounted for (after subtracting other unrelated costs).
Black Forest Fire Board member says costs of investigation higher than previously revealed | News - Home
And here is the story explainng a little about why the division supervisor for the El Paso County Wildland fire team, Steven Thime, sent firefighters to acting commander of emergency services for El Paso County, Bob McDonald's home during the fire.
He said he sent them to the only two home standing in that area and he thought there was a chance to save them...
EXCLUSIVE: Firefighter Explains Why He Sent Crews to Protect Official's Home During Black Forest Fire
He said he sent them to the only two home standing in that area and he thought there was a chance to save them...
EXCLUSIVE: Firefighter Explains Why He Sent Crews to Protect Official's Home During Black Forest Fire
Tonight's results in for the Black Forest fire board vote... 2500 voters compared with the last vote of only 200.
All three fire board incumbents voted out.
New board members are: PJ Langmaid, Jayme McConnellogue and Rick Nearhoof.
They are all fire fighters that want a change in leadership that spent over $125,000 to prove Sheriff Terry Maketa wrong when he said the fire chief mishandled the early hours of the fire fight during the Black Forest fire.
All three fire board incumbents voted out.
New board members are: PJ Langmaid, Jayme McConnellogue and Rick Nearhoof.
They are all fire fighters that want a change in leadership that spent over $125,000 to prove Sheriff Terry Maketa wrong when he said the fire chief mishandled the early hours of the fire fight during the Black Forest fire.
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Embattled Black Forest Fire Chief Robert Harvey has resigned, fire district chairman says - 7NEWS Denver TheDenverChannel.com
Embattled Black Forest Fire Chief Robert Harvey has resigned, fire district chairman says
Embattled Black Forest Fire Chief Robert Harvey has resigned, fire district chairman says
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