BOLO US Army TRS Sys ID 98D

[Thunderbolt]

Information has been received that the U.S. Army is migrating to a new P25 Phase II TRS, which has a system ID of 98D. Apparently, this new TRS is replacing the older system ID of 58A as it's being rolled out. The only site we have at this time in Michigan, is at the Detroit Arsenal in the city of Warren. If someone can monitor Site: 4-01 and check it's data stream, please let us know?

United States Army (58A) Trunking System, Various, Multi-State

United States Army (58A) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

73's

Ron

 

[nd5y]

Where did this information come from?
I think somebody posted something similar around 5 or 6 years ago. Army facilities with Harris systems were supposed to convert to Motorola and all with the same system ID. They haven't changed Fort Sill, OK yet.

 

[Thunderbolt]

Where did this information come from?
I think somebody posted something similar around 5 or 6 years ago. Army facilities with Harris systems were supposed to convert to Motorola and all with the same system ID. They haven't changed Fort Sill, OK yet.

This has been a topic of discussion lately among the database administrators. From what we can gather, Fort Stewart recently made the transition from 58A to 98D. Likewise, so did West Point. Others will likely follow in the coming months.

US Army CONUS Enterprise Land Mobile Radio Network (ACE LMR) Trunking System, Various, Multi-State

US Army CONUS Enterprise Land Mobile Radio Network (ACE LMR) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

73's

Ron

 

[hruskacha]

any word on future coverage? Maybe grayling?

 

[Thunderbolt]

any word on future coverage? Maybe grayling?

It's possible a site could show up in Grayling. It will be interesting to see if anything pops up Selfridge ANGB in the future as well.

73's

Ron

 

[GTR8000]

Likewise, so did West Point.

Incorrect, USMA at West Point is still on 58A as I stated in post #2 of that dbadmin thread. Off topic for this state forum, but clarification for the sake of whoever is reading this thread.

 

[fnnm400]

Information has been received that the U.S. Army is migrating to a new P25 Phase II TRS, which has a system ID of 98D. Apparently, this new TRS is replacing the older system ID of 58A as it's being rolled out. The only site we have at this time in Michigan, is at the Detroit Arsenal in the city of Warren. If someone can monitor Site: 4-01 and check it's data stream, please let us know?

United States Army (58A) Trunking System, Various, Multi-State

United States Army (58A) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

73's

Ron

Since I’m a couple miles from DA I will load it up and keep and eye on it. I wonder what they are going to use it for since, police, security and Fire are all on the Macomb Simulcast. Doesn’t make much sense to me.

 

[Thunderbolt]

Since I’m a couple miles from DA I will load it up and keep and eye on it. I wonder what they are going to use it for since, police, security and Fire are all on the Macomb Simulcast. Doesn’t make much sense to me.

When there are very strong band-openings in the warmer weather months, I can hear the Detroit Arsenal site, but that system is rather low profile. It will be interesting to see if they switchover to 98D later on this year.

73's

Ron

 

[hockeyref2]

It's possible a site could show up in Grayling. It will be interesting to see if anything pops up Selfridge ANGB in the future as well.

73's

Ron

Doesn't Camp Grayling just use MPSCS?

 

[hruskacha]

Doesn't Camp Grayling just use MPSCS?

They do. Not sure how much though. I pick it up from Muskegon sometimes

 

[hockeyref2]

I hear range control and security all the time. I usually have them locked out.

 

[nd5y]

There is a good tropo opening this morning.
I'm getting a very weak Motorola P25 CC for BEE00-98D.
380.075 NAC 985 site 1-65
380.125 NAC 985 site 1-66

It's coming from the south. It appears to be Fort Hood TX.

 

[nd5y]

Last time I logged Fort Hood was Jul 2021 so I don't know when it changed.
Somebody probably should have found this a long time ago but nowdays very few people are interested or capable of finding anything "new".

The two sites I received and neigbor site frequencies all look like

Fort Cavazos Trunking System, Killeen, Texas

Fort Cavazos Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

I'll post more data if the conditions stay good and I keep receiving it for a while.

 

[nd5y]

The two sites I was able to copy were weak. There may be decode errors in Unitrunker.
I think there were CCs on the other three sites but whatever I heard was right at the noise level and not identifyable.
I probably didn't get all the voice channels for each site. It's Sunday morning and not much traffic.
For some reason sites 1-65 and 1-66 did not appear on eachother's neighbor lists.
The old system had four known sites. I don't know if there were more that never made it to the DB.
Sites 1-67 and 1-70 have frequencies that were not in the DB for the old system. I don't know if they are new or just never made it to the DB.

I'm not submitting any of this. Somebody in Central TX should confirm all of it and find the other sites but that will probably never happen.

WACN BEE00 SYSID 98B

Site 1-65 Ft Hood Main Post?
NAC 985
Neigbbors 1-67, 1-68, 1-70
380.075 C
380.275 C
380.375 C
380.5125 C
380.9625
381.700

Site 1-66 Ft Hood Gray AAF?
NAC 985
Neighbors 1-67, 1-68, 1-70
380.125 C
380.325 C
380.4875 C
380.625
380.6625 C
380.825
380.9875
381.0125
381.1375
381.1625
381.3125
381.3375
381.625
381.775
381.800
381.975

Site 1-67 Unknown
380.400 C

Site 1-68 Ft Hood Belton Lake Rec Area?
380.4125 C

Site 1-70 Unknown
380.675 C

I logged 3 talkgroups that don't appear to correspond to the old system.
32518 enc
32560 ?
32586 clear

 

[nd5y]

I forgot to post the band plan.
It had the usual Motorola VHF, 380, 400, 700, 800 MHz band plans. It shows phase II capable.
The few transmissions I logged were phase I on this band plan:
Base 380.0 Low 02-0000 High 02-4095 Spacing 6.25 Slots 1