Brevard County Rebanding

[Bill1426]

Can you please tell us what was wrong , and how you fixed it ..??

Others might be stalking the thread, and have the same issue...

Thanks

 

[emceegoldenchild]

Can you please tell us what was wrong , and how you fixed it ..??

Others might be stalking the thread, and have the same issue...

Thanks

well i purchased the pro 164 tripple trunking scanner from radio shack to monitor police transmissions in my area of beachside. (satellite beach pd, indian harbor beach pd, and indialantic pd) the scanner i purchased was "pre programmed" at the shack (radio shack) but when i took it home, all i was picking up was garbled and broken transmissions coming from everywhere i.e. vierra court house, different sheriff stuff, the brevard county bus lines, ect. i then signed up to radio reference and downloaded all of their freq for this area and all of the edacs talk ids, but it still didn't work, rarely even showing me an alpha tag for what i was listening to. i then locked out all of the talkgroup id's for everything except beachside freq and still was only picking up garbled sheriff transmissions and the 0660<---something like that was giving me bus stuff. i was devastated. i received a glimmer of hope after speaking with a man at the radio shack on wickam and eau gallie, next to ci ci's pizza, telling me that he had a radio there i could clone from that was set up properly, but after driving there and cloning, i still wasn't happy. i uploaded it to my pc to check the data and it was a clusterf***. i was inches from taking the thing back and returning it. i must've spent hours and hours programming it over and over again, surfing shoddy websites looking for answers. eventually i solved the problem by locking out every tower besides the one that my local police use (eau gallie) and programming in the correct talk id's (thanks SCOTT) for the police departments that i wanted to listen to, carefully alpha tagging each one. after that, i monitored the scanner for awhile with headphones and waited for weird transmissions that weren't what i wanted to listen to (i.e. sheriff stuff that started with a 0 or anything that i didnt alpha tag) and pressed the lock out button to rid them from my scanners life lol. now my scanner picks up NOTHING bUT WHAT I WANT IT TO. IM JUST GLAD TO HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW TO CONTROL THE D**N THING LOL. hopefully this helps lol.

 

[SherwoodPolice]

When did you get your Pro-164 cloned? I tried going last night to get mine cloned, and they sold out. No clone for me.

 

[emceegoldenchild]

When did you get your Pro-164 cloned? I tried going last night to get mine cloned, and they sold out. No clone for me.

well i said that i cloned from radioshack on wickam a few days ago and it was worthless. i ended up programming it myself after i figured it all out. if you picked up a pro 164 after you got rid of ur pro 96 ill give you some instructions on how to get it programmed right for your town. what city are you trying to listen to? do you have the data ca8le and the win97 programming software? theres a clone of mine from when i was almost done @ radio shack in satellite on the corner of A1A and glenwood dr.. (it pretty much only picks up satellite pd, indialantic, Indian Har. pd, some rouge stuff i hadnt locked out yet lol)

 

[k4jdp]

Talk Group ID's-Changed?

Since re-banding, have the talk group ID's changed from what they were before re-banding? I'm not a hard-core scanner (at least not yet.) I'm using a Pro-94 and have programmed the Rockledge and Melbourne towers into it since they are the closest geographically to my home QTH in Viera. Before re-banding the BCSO absolutely dominated activity on this scanner. Now I'm logging talk group ID's that I've never heard before re-banding (i.e., 01-131, 01-114.) Others are 09-012, 01-041. The first two aren't listed in my reference charts that I have printed from on-line. The second two are listed but they don't seem to correspond with the services listed on the reference charts. Another example is 05-071 which I've never logged before re-banding but my charts say it's Solid Waste Management. BCSO hardly comes up on the scanner now (that is 01-011, 01-012, 01-013.) In addition, since I programmed the Melbourne tower in the scanner the talk group ID's flash on the window but instead of voice transmissions I'm getting a long transmission of the control channel noise and then after several long seconds, voice transmission commences (if at all.) Any ideas or comments please!(?)

Many Tnx,
John

 

[Bill1426]

I'm not sure, but I think you have the new frequencies in the wrong order or LCN spots.

If you look at the Melbourne Tower frequencies, they do not start at LCN 01.
They start at LCN 09 the go on to LCN 16

The Rockledge Tower starts at LCN 11 - LCN 22

The Palm Bay Tower starts at LCN 09 - LCN 11 Then starts again at LCN 14 - LCN 22.
So LCN 12 & LCN 13 are blank.

Titusville starts at LCN 11 - LCN 22

 

[k4jdp]

Changing LCN order for Brevard

You must be right about the LCN order. I didn't program the old frequencies in ALONG WITH the new frequencies. I only programmed the new frequencies in. I'll try adding the old ones along with the new ones as listed on the new reference chart that "Elroy" posted here. Our daughter is employed with BCSO so we like to keep tabs on her while she's on the job.

Many Tnx,
John

 

[emceegoldenchild]

im glad that you got everything worked out, lol. its a pain, but its worth it, lol. im thinking about upgrading to a digital handheld, so if anyone wants to pick up my pro 164 im selling it with a data cable for $100. ill help program it too. email me at emceegoldenchild at yahoo.com if interested.

 

[emceegoldenchild]

it has an upgraded telescoping antenna as well as a stock rubber duck antenna and an extended rubber duck antenna.

 

[emceegoldenchild]

wow is this thread dying? lol> hope not

 

[ElroyJetson]

Phase 2 of the rebanding is in progress in Brevard right now. But this is not of any great concern to any of us as all that's being done is that the obsolete channel assignments are simply being removed from the subscriber radios. Frankly I'm not even sure why they bother. It won't harm anything to leave that data in the radios.

But it does give the techs something to do.

Elroy

 

[SherwoodPolice]

I don't know if there is any truth to this but, when I got my radio phase 2 rebanded last night, the radio people tried avoiding my questions on what they were doing with the radios. One goofy radio guy said something along the lines of, "the radios will not interfere with cell phones anymore and the future plans is to go the the 900MHz band instead of being on the 800MHz band, so that people with trunk track scanners won't be able to listen in." I thought that statement was a little odd, so I enquired about what system they were planning to implement. He did not respond. It was like talking to a wall. Eventually one of the techs advised that they were taking some of the things out of the radio so the battery would last longer..something about a scan function.

 

[ElroyJetson]

There's some not-exactly-correct information there. The system won't be switching to 900 MHz as that
would require replacement of EVERY radio in the system. The county isn't going to spend that kind
of money. Not a chance. That's essentially a full system replacement and that would have to go
out to bid...and Motorola would love nothing more than to kick Harris out and would probably sell the
equipment for under cost just to get it, and make their money on service. I'm quite sure that Harris
does not want to even suggest system upgrades that might cause them to have to compete against
Motorola to stay in the picture.

I've recently talked to a "highly placed official" about future plans, and he said, approximately, 'We don't have the money for any big changes, and the economy doesn't help.' There are no plans to go
to P25 standards or to change bands. Not at this time. Any such changes, if they ever occur,
won't happen for years.

Personally, I'm rooting for Motorola, but then again, it's a lot easier to scan an EDACS system without
crossing any lines of questionable legality.

Elroy

 

[waltmapb]

I left i-calls programmed in the radio and started getting hits on the Rockledge site. It shows an ID but the audio locks up on the control channel instead of voice. It then hangs on the control channel audio and has to manually be made to start scanning again. So I locked out the i-call channel. Anyone getting i-calls again. I I remember they were disabled when the initial rebanding started.

 

[gcr33]

Motorola in Harris front yard, just like MA-Comm Critical Communications kicked Motorola to the curb in Florida where they were making the radios. I like it. Harris however is not Tyco but I am sure there are some of "those" people on board at Harris. I wonder how long they have to live with their The Sky is Falling Systems???

There's some not-exactly-correct information there. The system won't be switching to 900 MHz as that
would require replacement of EVERY radio in the system. The county isn't going to spend that kind
of money. Not a chance. That's essentially a full system replacement and that would have to go
out to bid...and Motorola would love nothing more than to kick Harris out and would probably sell the
equipment for under cost just to get it, and make their money on service. I'm quite sure that Harris
does not want to even suggest system upgrades that might cause them to have to compete against
Motorola to stay in the picture.

I've recently talked to a "highly placed official" about future plans, and he said, approximately, 'We don't have the money for any big changes, and the economy doesn't help.' There are no plans to go
to P25 standards or to change bands. Not at this time. Any such changes, if they ever occur,
won't happen for years.

Personally, I'm rooting for Motorola, but then again, it's a lot easier to scan an EDACS system without
crossing any lines of questionable legality.

Elroy

 

[EDACS_247]

Elroy, please contact me at your earliest convenience.

Thanks,

-Mark

 

[ElroyJetson]

Just send a PM to me if you wish. I check in every couple of days.

Comm-Net took the Florida contract in part by making promises that, as it turned out, they couldn't keep. One specific example is that they suggested that the surplus system capacity could be leased
out to business customers. But the problem is that many of the system freqencies were in the
section of the 800 band that were exclusive to public safety users. Those frequencies can not be
used for non-public-safety customers. The law prevented it. Also, the system control software
wasn't written to allocate specific channels to specific users, which ruled out the possibility of business
customers using the system but only on the SMR range frequencies.

There were other issues but that one stands out in my mind as a pure example of dishonest marketing
and the state of Florida bought into it.

Elroy

 

[EDACS_247]

Elroy,

I'm really having a hard time figuring out how to contact you privately on this forum.

Please send me an e-mail at Programming@EDACSRadios.com

Thanks in Advance,

-Mark

P.S. My apologies to everyone reading this.

 

[ElroyJetson]

Click on the user name at the top left of one of my postings. This is how you use the PM feature.


Elroy

 

[k4jdp]

Brevard County Re-banding

As of yesterday 12-10-09 I'm not receiving anything (again) on a Pro-94. The LCN are programmed in but when I press trunk then search, I just get scanning of the 800mhz freq. and no talkgroups come through. Did the county re-band again (again after the August re-banding?)
Our daughter is employed by BCSO and she told us that the county will not be going digital because of austere budgets.

73's de,
K4JDP-John