Cecil Co. Edacs

[u2brent]

Got another one.

DEC 19/AFS 00-023 DE Fire Interop Patch

 

[organized_mayhem]

Unless something changed in the last two years CCSO and EPD have their own primary talkgroups. The remainder or the PDS share are talkgroup called "Towns".

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

It might still be that way. A friend of mine called me to say he thought he heard North East Town PD on 4737. The OP has 4737 listed as Rising Sun. Fitting what you are saying.

 

[u2brent]

The OP continues fine tuning the list. Here is the current version

UNKNOWN
13 Unknown 00-015
15 Unknown 00-017
17 Unknown 00-021
18 Unknown 00-022
20 Unknown 00-024
21 Unknown 00-025
22 Unknown 00-026
8321 Unknown
8578 Unknown
8705 Unknown
8707 Unknown

LAW ENFORCEMENT
4736 Police Ops (TOWNS)
4737 Police Ops (TOWNS)
4738 Police Ops (TOWNS)
4745 Elkton PD
4746 Elkton PD Ops (MSP?)

FIRE/EMS
16 PA Fire Patch 00-020 (Perhaps North Fire Interop)
19 DE Fire Patch 00-023 (Perhaps East Fire Interop)
4225 FD Main (EMS/Fire Dispatch)
4226 Ops 6
4227 Ops 7
4228 Ops 8
4229 Ops 9?
4230 Ops10?
4231 EMS Ops
4236 Fire Police
4237 Harford Memorial Hospital
4238 Union Hospital
4239 EMS Dispatch
4243 EMS Unknown

MUNICIPAL
8450 Public Works
8451 Public Works

UID's
6 Police Dispatch/Patch
7 Fire Patch
30 EMS Dispatch
801 Fire Dispatch
802 EMS Dispatch?
805 Fire/Police Dispatch
806 Fire Dispatch
807 Police Dispatch (Elkton)
809 Police Dispatch
810 Police Dispatch
1505 ?
1525 ?
1531 ?
1606 ?
1631 ?
1645 ?
3289 ? EMS
3291 ? EMS
3292 Medic 392
3295 Medic 394
3510 Chief 4 portable
3511 Chief 4 mobile
3703 Rescue 4
3733 ? EMS
3771 ? EMS
3795 Ambulance 493
4804 ?
4818 ?
5501 ?
5520 ?
5711 ?
5731 ?
5741 ?
5793 ?
7001 ? PD
7019 ? PD
7156 ? PD
7161 ? PD
7175 ? PD
7201 ? PD
7219 ? PD
7247 ? PD
7608 ? PD
7609 ? PD
7616 ? PD
7622 ? PD
8506 ?
9041 ? PD
9050 ? PD
9052 ? PD
9057 ? PD
9061 ? PD
9065 ? PD
9074 ? PD
9078 ? PD
9082 ? PD
9117 ? PD
9501 ? PD

Just carrying on what wildbillx started.
Updates are welcome!

 

[organized_mayhem]

Pretty certain 4738 is the Sheriff's Department. Also 4746 is MSP Barrack F.

 

[h8tdigitalradio]

Hello,

To help with IDing the users, here are some Call Signs for Municipal PDs:

North East 4380/4381
Rising Sun 4370
Perryville 4301/4313

 

[ka3jjz]

OK I've set up a wiki page for the unknown IDs as well as the Radio/User IDs. The 2 links are at the bottom of...

Cecil County - The RadioReference Wiki

To make a nice simple list, simply put an asterisk (shift 8) in the leftmost column, thus...

* tgxxxxx put the user or detail here
* tgxxxxx put the user or detail here

Put all the data before the category directive.

Mike

 

[u2brent]

Pretty certain 4738 is the Sheriff's Department. Also 4746 is MSP Barrack F.

OK, Thanks.

I think 4746 is a simulcast of First Responders TG 7303 Barrack F North East..
and may also be heard on State Police 39.840000, I'll keep listening..

I wonder if there is a Cecil Co System equivalent for State Police 39.24000 Barrack M JFK TG's 7304 & TAC 7308 also on First Responders.

 

[organized_mayhem]

OK, Thanks.

I think 4746 is a simulcast of First Responders TG 7303 Barrack F North East..
and may also be heard on State Police 39.840000, I'll keep listening..

I wonder if there is a Cecil Co System equivalent for State Police 39.24000 Barrack M JFK TG's 7304 & TAC 7308 also on First Responders

Yes I believe it is a simulcast. Haven't heard anything that sounds like MSP on JFK yet.

 

[ka3jjz]

OK guys I'm willing to capture the IDs listed as 'UIDs' in message 43 and put them in the wiki - however, about 10 messages down, they're listed as Radio IDs (RIDs)'

Which is it? They're not the same thing...Mike

 

[EX-2079]

Any chance you would share the Profile you made to scan Cecil? I have tried with no luck. I already have the upgrade installed.

 

[u2brent]

OK guys I'm willing to capture the IDs listed as 'UIDs' in message 43 and put them in the wiki - however, about 10 messages down, they're listed as Radio IDs (RIDs)'

Which is it? They're not the same thing...Mike

In Sentinel they are Unit ID's. In ARC536 they are called UID's. In Win500 they are called ARID's.

They are the ID's displayed when a specific radio is in use. Just a mistype between the posts.

Hope that answers your question.

If your willing to wait on doing that a couple of days; I will post a more precise list.

 

[u2brent]

Any chance you would share the Profile you made to scan Cecil? I have tried with no luck. I already have the upgrade installed.

I imported the System via the RR DB using ARC536PRO then just uploaded it to the radio, I made no other adjustments. Then downloaded it into Sentinel to personalize it and add FLQK's and all that jazz..
Then uploaded that to the radio.

Before the ProVoice was activated I got nuttin'.
Then enabled ProVoice and POW! It just worked.

You could input the system manually if you are into that. Just add the new System to a favorite list, add a site with the LCN frequencies just like in RR DB. Set system type to EDACS with ID search turned ON.

I thinks that's it..

ADDED: Enter all the frequencies, in order, not just the control channels.

Like this:

154.137500
154.407500
154.927500
155.317500
155.602500
154.882500
155.002500
154.332500
155.932500

 

[riveter]

By proper terminology they should be Radio IDs. Unit IDs refer to the user/unit operating the transceiver, and Radio IDs should refer to the unique numeric identifier for the transceiver itself. Maintaining good practices like that reduces a whole lot of confusion.

 

[DisasterGuy]

By proper terminology they should be Radio IDs. Unit IDs refer to the user/unit operating the transceiver, and Radio IDs should refer to the unique numeric identifier for the transceiver itself. Maintaining good practices like that reduces a whole lot of confusion.

True. In EDACS they are called LIDs (Logical ID) however the standard particularly in light of P25 should be RID.

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

 

[u2brent]

By proper terminology they should be Radio IDs. Unit IDs refer to the user/unit operating the transceiver, and Radio IDs should refer to the unique numeric identifier for the transceiver itself. Maintaining good practices like that reduces a whole lot of confusion.

I Don't Know The Difference.
Split Hairs If You Like.

On The BCD436HP; When Stopped On An Active Talkgroup; This Is The Number That Is Displayed; When A User Activates His/Her Microphone (PTT) And The Display Shows UID: Right Above TGID: In Sentinel This Very Same Number Is Found As A UNIT ID.

It's Irrelevant Of What That User May Say Or Who They Are Conversing With. There May Be Nuttin' But Silence.

There Really Isn't Any Need For Further Discussion.

It's Not A Car#, Not A Truck#, Not An Engine#, Not A Station#, Not A Social Security#, Not A School#, Not A Post Office Box Number#, Not A Bus#, Not A Tanker#, Not An Engine#, Not An Ambulance#, Not A Phone#, Not A Random#, And Most Likely Not A Prime# ect...

The Radio Does Not Know Who's Talking Or From Where, It Just Shows The Radio ID Of The Radio In Use At That Precise Moment On That Precise Talkgroup.

We're Talking About Scanners On Radio Reference, Not People (Units) In A Police Station.

And Oh Yeah.

Go Ahead, Make My Day!

 

[QDP2012]

By proper terminology they should be Radio IDs. Unit IDs refer to the user/unit operating the transceiver, and Radio IDs should refer to the unique numeric identifier for the transceiver itself. Maintaining good practices like that reduces a whole lot of confusion.

To avoid confusion, in the RR Wiki, the digital IDs, whether called RID/UID/LID, etc. are in the "...RID/UIDs" categories. IDs that are spoken over-the-air are in the "...Station IDs" categories.

Hope this helps,

 

[u2brent]

To avoid confusion, in the RR Wiki, the digital IDs, whether called RID/UID/LID, etc. are in the "...RID/UIDs" categories. IDs that are spoken over-the-air are in the "...Station IDs" categories.

Hope this helps,

I don't believe there is any confusion really, Not on this UNIT's end anyway. I Don't think the other UNIT's are confused either. Some UNIT's are just creating it.

Confusion that is.

Let's have some fun!

Tune in to HBO tonight at 9 PM EST.

Hurray for me...

 

[ka3jjz]

In Sentinel they are Unit ID's. In ARC536 they are called UID's. In Win500 they are called ARID's.

They are the ID's displayed when a specific radio is in use. Just a mistype between the posts.

Hope that answers your question.

If your willing to wait on doing that a couple of days; I will post a more precise list.

That's no problem. The stub is ready for the data whenever you get it together

Mike

 

[u2brent]

Cecil County EDACS 12/08/2015 Report

OK everyone, here is my summation of the Cecil Co System as of 11 AM Today...
I've attached 2 hpe files one is All I have thus far, the other is what I consider Confirmed and has been submitted to the RR DB. (I hope I did the hpe files correctly).
Updates are very welcome!

All Values are DEC, Except as noted.
A ? after a description denotes my best guess as to a usage.
A ? after a TG# is just that, a guess based on a pattern and has not actually been observed or received.

Cecil County Fire/EMS
135 EMS? AFS 01-007
4225 FD Main (EMS/Fire Dispatch)
4226 Ops 6
4227 Ops 7
4228 Ops 8
4229? Ops 9???
4230? Ops 10???
4231 EMS Ops
4236 Fire Police
4237 UM Harford Memorial Hospital (Havre de Grace)
4238 Union Hospital (Elkton)
4239 Baltimore Co EMS Simulcast
4241 Unknown?
4243 EMS Unknown?
5124 Unknown?
5129 Unknown?

Cecil County Local Government
8321 Public Works
8450 Public Works
8451 Public Works
8453 Public Works
8578 Public Works
8705 Public Works
8707 Public Works

Cecil County Miscellaneous
4743 Cecil Co DES?

Cecil County Patches
13 Patch AFS 00-015
14 Patch AFS 00-016
15 Patch AFS 00-017
16 Patch AFS 00-020
17 Patch AFS 00-021
18 Patch AFS 00-022
19 Patch AFS 00-023
20 Patch AFS 00-024
21 Patch AFS 00-025
22 Patch AFS 00-026

Cecil County Sheriff
4738 County Sheriff Office
4740 County Sheriff Office?

Cecil County Town Police
4736 Cecil County Towns Police Ops
4737 Cecil County Towns Police Ops (Primary)
4745 Elkton PD

Maryland State Police
4746 MSP North East Barracks F

Digital RID's (NOTE: Some of the ID's Tagged EMS could be Fire Departments as well)
6 MSP Patch
7 Fire Patch
30 EMS Patch
31 Harford Memorial Hospital
34 EMS Patch
801 Fire/EMS Dispatch
802 Fire/EMS Dispatch
805 Fire/EMS/PD Dispatch
806 Fire/EMS Dispatch
807 Elkton PD Dispatch
809 PD Dispatch
810 PD Dispatch
1501 EMS
1503 EMS
1505 EMS
1521 EMS
1525 EMS
1531 EMS
1602 EMS
1604 EMS
1606 EMS
1608 EMS
1609 EMS
1610 EMS
1614 EMS
1620 EMS
1631 EMS
1636 EMS
1645 EMS
1651 EMS
2723 EMS
2769 Unknown?
3010 FD
3018 FD
3020 FD
3034 FD
3117 EMS
3241 EMS
3251 EMS
3253 FD
3289 EMS
3290 FD
3291 EMS
3292 EMS Medic 392
3295 EMS Medic 394
3300 FD
3302 FD
3510 FD Chief 4 portable
3511 FD Chief 4 mobile
3703 FD Rescue 4
3713 EMS
3733 EMS
3771 EMS
3795 EMS Ambulance 493
4001 Charlestown FD
4203 EMS
4232 EMS
4510 EMS
4511 EMS
4514 EMS
4711 EMS
4743 EMS
4746 EMS
4753 EMS
4793 EMS
4794 EMS
4804 EMS
4818 EMS
4902 EMS
5011 EMS
5032 EMS
5046 EMS
5072 EMS
5161 EMS
5201 EMS
5223 EMS
5245 EMS
5366 EMS
5501 EMS
5520 EMS
5701 EMS
5711 EMS
5731 EMS
5741 EMS
5745 EMS
5752 EMS
5793 EMS
5795 EMS
6219 FD
6703 EMS
6704 EMS
6708 EMS
7001 Sheriff's
7011 Sheriff's
7013 Sheriff's
7019 Sheriff's
7037 Sheriff's
7040 Sheriff's
7040 Sheriff's
7043 Sheriff's
7044 Sheriff's
7102 Sheriff's
7112 Sheriff's
7117 Sheriff's
7123 Unknown?
7124 Sheriff's
7131 Sheriff's
7137 Sheriff's
7143 Sheriff's
7145 Sheriff's
7149 Sheriff's
7155 Sheriff's
7156 Sheriff's
7161 Sheriff's
7163 Sheriff's
7169 Sheriff's
7171 Sheriff's
7175 Sheriff's
7177 Sheriff's
7184 Sheriff's
7193 Sheriff's
7194 Sheriff's
7196 Sheriff's
7199 Sheriff's
7200 Sheriff's
7201 Sheriff's
7213 Sheriff's
7219 Sheriff's
7221 Sheriff's
7222 Sheriff's
7227 Sheriff's
7234 Sheriff's
7235 Sheriff's
7247 Sheriff's
7280 Sheriff's
7291 Sheriff's
7296 Sheriff's
7308 Sheriff's
7450 Cecil Co DES?
7502 Unknown PD
7607 Unknown PD
7608 Sheriff's
7609 Sheriff's
7613 Unknown PD
7614 Unknown PD
7616 Sheriff's
7621 Unknown PD
7622 Sheriff's
8106 Unknown PD
8109 Unknown PD
8119 Port Deposit PD?
8124 Unknown PD
8506 Unknown PD
9001 Elkton PD
9019 Elkton PD
9024 Elkton PD
9026 Elkton PD
9029 Elkton PD
9033 Elkton PD
9034 Elkton PD
9036 Elkton PD
9037 Elkton PD
9038 Elkton PD
9041 Elkton PD
9043 Elkton PD
9044 Elkton PD
9045 Elkton PD
9050 Elkton PD
9051 Elkton PD
9052 Elkton PD
9055 Elkton PD
9056 Elkton PD
9057 Elkton PD
9059 Elkton PD
9061 Elkton PD
9065 Elkton PD
9074 Elkton PD
9078 Elkton PD
9082 Elkton PD
9084 Elkton PD
9092 Elkton PD
9113 Elkton PD
9116 Elkton PD
9117 Unknown PD
9119 Elkton PD
9121 Elkton PD
9501 Unknown PD
9503 Unknown PD
9701 Unknown PD
9705 Unknown PD
9708 Unknown PD
10018 MSP
10024 MSP
10050 MSP
10070 MSP
10100 MSP
10112 MSP
11101 Municipal
11106 Municipal
11112 Municipal
11116 Municipal
11120 Municipal
11122 Municipal
11128 Municipal
11130 Municipal
11232 Municipal
11238 Municipal
11264 Municipal
11270 Municipal
12004 Municipal
12005 Municipal
12006 Municipal
12009 Municipal
12011 Municipal
12015 Municipal
12017 Municipal
12021 Municipal

To anyone who utilizes the attachments, Please note to remove the system avoid from the Confirmed file..

 

[Dispatcher308]

If they will continue with that plan in light of the Uniden PV option remains to be seen as the development took system owners by surprise.

Ha Ha this makes me laugh, NEVER SAY NEVER and no one should ever be surprised as it was never true encryption.

Nate