Cottonwood Canyons SO Frequencies?

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I am new to the forum and an EX Motorola Rep (Old VHF days). Which Trunked 800 MHZ ferequencies am I most likely to hear the canyon special units from the SO? I had a scanner last year with just 1 or 2 frequencies which seemed to always be the ones that those units were using. I lost the frequencies so perhaps someone can help. Also, I am still waiting for a response on earlier post about any known VHF still being used by Alta Marshalls or SO up there?
 

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freqs used up in the canyons....

I had just posted something about this a couple of weeks ago on one of their freqs used up in the canyons for Car-2-Car, check it out, and feel free to sniff around for others if you're capable of doing so with your scanner.
 

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Alta frequencies

powderchaser said:
I am new to the forum and an EX Motorola Rep (Old VHF days). Which Trunked 800 MHZ ferequencies am I most likely to hear the canyon special units from the SO? I had a scanner last year with just 1 or 2 frequencies which seemed to always be the ones that those units were using. I lost the frequencies so perhaps someone can help. Also, I am still waiting for a response on earlier post about any known VHF still being used by Alta Marshalls or SO up there?
As luck would have it I spent today skiing at Alta and logged four active VHF frequencies:

158.775 Alta Police, Parking, EMS
154.995 Alta Roads
151.835 Alta Lodge
163.2375 Unknown

I'm about to add these to the DB with what details I know, so check Salt Lake County.

-Tim
 

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powderchaser said:
Which Trunked 800 MHZ ferequencies am I most likely to hear the canyon special units from the SO?
powderchaser, your question is just a little confusing since there are not any specific 800 MHz frequencies used by the SO Canyon Units. Your best bet is listening to them on the Salt Lake TRS (site 3). I'm not sure how far up the canyons you can copy them. Their TG is the Special Services TG 288 which they share with Taylorsville PD.

I'm not sure if that answers your question.
 

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Also you will want to monitor the SLCo SO "Wasatch" channel (TG: 320). This is where I hear most of the Canyon Patrol units as this is the TG that covers the Cottonwood area at the mouth of Big and Little Cottonwood.

There are sites for Little and Big cottonwood so just check the Database and you should have all the frequencies you need. Let us know if you need some help though...
 

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gldavis said:
163.2375 was earlier ID'ed as SL Co Sheriffs Office, Car to Car.
I just looked at the Db and that frequency is not listed in the Salt Lake County list of VHF/UHF frequencies, but it is listed in Alta City frequencies. gldavis, does this need to be changed do you think?
 

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Last time I was up there I saw some law enforcement looking vehicles that said Marshal on it. I don't remember if it said US Marshal, Utah or Snowbird/Alta but could that be the user of the 163mhz freq? It seems a little strange for public safety to be using a fed freq for car-to-car, especially when they do have an 800 MHz repeater in the canyon, but things never surprise me anymore so who knows :)
 

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Edit: I don't know what I am talking about so I deleted my post. Sorry. All I can really do is delete the text.
 
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brandon said:
Last time I was up there I saw some law enforcement looking vehicles that said Marshal on it. I don't remember if it said US Marshal, Utah or Snowbird/Alta but could that be the user of the 163mhz freq? It seems a little strange for public safety to be using a fed freq for car-to-car, especially when they do have an 800 MHz repeater in the canyon, but things never surprise me anymore so who knows :)


Alta has Town Marshal, However I do not know what frequencies they use. I have heard SO contact them before.
 

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163.2375 is C2C

The 163.2375 freq is used for C2C for when the 800mhz is out of range, as the per the SO units I asked when I was covering a story. I don't believe it is theirs alone but shared with other agencies when in the area, that part I didn't ask, I'm assuming!

Just standby before adding it to the DB and I will ask them the next time I'm up there what it is exactly.
 

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Salt Lake County car-to-car frequencies

shootinnews said:
The 163.2375 freq is used for C2C for when the 800mhz is out of range, as the per the SO units I asked when I was covering a story. I don't believe it is theirs alone but shared with other agencies when in the area, that part I didn't ask, I'm assuming!

Just standby before adding it to the DB and I will ask them the next time I'm up there what it is exactly.
Thanks for sharing the info you obtained. I heard traffic on 163.2375 while skiing at Alta last week and also while driving around the Point of the Mountain on Saturday. In neither case did I hear enough to discern anything.

Today I was snowshoeing in Provo Canyon and heard a long chat on 154.340 (no tone or DCS used). It was two cops chatting about their radios, their cars, what account they could charge repairs to, etc. Their conversation would end then begin again 10-20 minutes later with no introductions--as though two of them listen for each other all the time. They must not have much to do. I've heard similar traffic on this frequency before, and someone else reported hearing a wide-load escort on I-15. I couldn't tell the location, but the frequency is licensed to Salt Lake County. If theSalt Lake SO cars have this frequency, I wonder why they use 163.2375 in the canyons?

I have both these frequencies listed under Salt Lake County, but I welcome more information on who uses them and for what purposes.

-Tim
 

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I put 163.2375 into my scanners last night and listening all day today I have received squelch break on that frequency many times, but no intelligible voice, only static. So you need to be much closer to the canyons than I am (I'm in Kearns).

I might add that using UCAN Site 3, I have had no trouble hearing the SLSO and Unified Fire in the Cottonwood Canyons on a mess of accidents they have had up there today. Of course, if I could not hear a radio transmission, I would not know that I had missed it so I don't really know if there are area coverage problems with the trunking system(s) in the canyons or not.
 

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theaton said:
If theSalt Lake SO cars have this frequency, I wonder why they use 163.2375 in the canyons? -Tim

I remember when I was riding with a SO deputy he said it is a line of sight frequency in the canyons, you have to be pretty close to get the transmissions. He also stated that the UCAN radios have alot of dead spots in the canyons so they use the vhf freq for car to car comms and even have used good ol' fashion CB radios.
 

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163.2375 alive and well

Today I went snowshoeing at Alta (gorgeous day--had to spit my time between scanner and digital camera!) and I heard an earfull on 163.2375 (203.5 PL). There were several rollovers near the mouth of LCC, and the SO officers were discussing them constantly. It was clear that this is a simplex frequency for LCC and BCC. One SO officer also had a conversation with an Alta rescue officer on 154.995 (CSQ) about one of the rollovers. The Alta guy was all deferential to the cop, and the cop thought that was silly. Getting down LCC at dark was a stop-and-go nightmare, and we heard all about it on 163.2375 in addition to experiencing it ourselves. Dinner at Red Lobster in Sugarhouse cured our frustrations, however. :lol:

-Tim
 
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