CT Senate Bill 5398

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The generalized (read vague) language forebodes what is likely to happen in the not-too-distant future. Not only EMS communications, but any emergency (read: fire) communications and of course law enforcement communications will be encrypted.

The Motorola Public Safety salespeople in the Connecticut territory must be salivating.
 

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Encryption kills interoperability.

Encryption can kill you ... just ask the DC Fire Department.
I agree, having been first-hand acquainted with the doings of the DCFD.
But, the encryption trend spreading through our state has many origins..CCPA? Not really. But likely commercial influences..."Chief, this is what YOU must have" Some departments default into "E' due to incompetent radio techs :Milford PD...or so the story goes went "E' for all transmissions because the service tech accidentally set up the system as such. Patrol was not intended to be "E". So now, area departments also made the big switch to "E'>

Both as a PO and in my subsequent career have I encountered a single instance/case wherein the perpetrator, arrestee, Skell, or whatever you may want to call them, had a scanner in his/her possession either before, during, or after the commission of a crime.

And please, don't get me started on HIPPA as the reason for encryption under the rubric of the need to protect personal identities. This raises the question of what constitutes a personal identity (BP 160 over 97?) Plus the circumstances where HIPPA is applicable. 90% of the people I have encountered/dealt with including brethren attorneys and judges, have either no understanding or an extremely limited understanding of exactly what HIPPA is, what it is intended to accomplish, and most importantly, its application in the real world.

Recently I was at an MVA (quasi-spectator at a distance) and was taking a photo or two with my ancient Mamiya Press 23 camera. A volunteer started to shout (or was it scream?) at me that I couldn't take pictures and how did know about this (MVA)...".you got a scanner or something?" Continuing to say "It's against the law to listen to us...I'm gonna get you arrested" (yes, this was in Connecticut) He then called over a CSP Trooper and pointed me out. The trooper shrugged his shoulders and walked away.
 
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I agree, having been first-hand acquainted with the doings of the DCFD.
But, the encryption trend spreading through our state has many origins..CCPA? Not really. But likely commercial influences..."Chief, this is what YOU must have" Some departments default into "E' due to incompetent radio techs :Milford PD...or so the story goes went "E' for all transmissions because the service tech accidentally set up the system as such. Patrol was not intended to be "E". So now, area departments also made the big switch to "E'>

Both as a PO and in my subsequent career have I encountered a single instance/case wherein the perpetrator, arrestee, Skell, or whatever you may want to call them, had a scanner in his/her possession either before, during, or after the commission of a crime.

And please, don't get me started on HIPPA as the reason for encryption under the rubric of the need to protect personal identities. This raises the question of what constitutes a personal identity (BP 160 over 97?) Plus the circumstances where HIPPA is applicable. 90% of the people I have encountered/dealt with including brethren attorneys and judges, have either no understanding or an extremely limited understanding of exactly what HIPPA is, what it is intended to accomplish, and most importantly, its application in the real world.

Recently I was at an MVA (quasi-spectator at a distance) and was taking a photo or two with my ancient Mamiya Press 23 camera. A volunteer started to shout (or was it scream?) at me that I couldn't take pictures and how did know about this (MVA)...".you got a scanner or something?" Continuing to say "It's against the law to listen to us...I'm gonna get you arrested" (yes, this was in Connecticut) He then called over a CSP Trooper and pointed me out. The trooper shrugged his shoulders and walked away.
Fun Fact: HIPAA does not apply to police departments unless they run an ambulance service that bills ... and ... HIPAA does not apply to non-EMS Fire Departments.

HIPAA only applies to the following ... Health Care Providers that Transmit Records Electronically, Health Plans and Health Care Clearinghouses. That's it.

For running plates, use an MDT.
 

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Recently I was at an MVA (quasi-spectator at a distance) and was taking a photo or two with my ancient Mamiya Press 23 camera. A volunteer started to shout (or was it scream?) at me that I couldn't take pictures and how did know about this (MVA)...".you got a scanner or something?" Continuing to say "It's against the law to listen to us...I'm gonna get you arrested" (yes, this was in Connecticut) He then called over a CSP Trooper and pointed me out. The trooper shrugged his shoulders and walked away.
And "Joshua's Law" doesn't even apply to general public so you can photograph all you want LOL.
I would have loved to ask to see what statute says you can't listen to a fire department, considering there are dozens of free apps and websites to do so right on your cell phone! Its incredible how many misconceptions there are about legalities (or illegalities I guess)
Hope I never encounter that department.......
 

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I agree, having been first-hand acquainted with the doings of the DCFD.
But, the encryption trend spreading through our state has many origins..CCPA? Not really. But likely commercial influences..."Chief, this is what YOU must have" Some departments default into "E' due to incompetent radio techs :Milford PD...or so the story goes went "E' for all transmissions because the service tech accidentally set up the system as such. Patrol was not intended to be "E". So now, area departments also made the big switch to "E'>

Both as a PO and in my subsequent career have I encountered a single instance/case wherein the perpetrator, arrestee, Skell, or whatever you may want to call them, had a scanner in his/her possession either before, during, or after the commission of a crime.

And please, don't get me started on HIPPA as the reason for encryption under the rubric of the need to protect personal identities. This raises the question of what constitutes a personal identity (BP 160 over 97?) Plus the circumstances where HIPPA is applicable. 90% of the people I have encountered/dealt with including brethren attorneys and judges, have either no understanding or an extremely limited understanding of exactly what HIPPA is, what it is intended to accomplish, and most importantly, its application in the real world.

Recently I was at an MVA (quasi-spectator at a distance) and was taking a photo or two with my ancient Mamiya Press 23 camera. A volunteer started to shout (or was it scream?) at me that I couldn't take pictures and how did know about this (MVA)...".you got a scanner or something?" Continuing to say "It's against the law to listen to us...I'm gonna get you arrested" (yes, this was in Connecticut) He then called over a CSP Trooper and pointed me out. The trooper shrugged his shoulders and walked away.
I worked in health insurance and remember reading that HIPAA specifically did not apply to radio communication.
 

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I worked in health insurance and remember reading that HIPAA specifically did not apply to radio communication.
I always love seeing folks who don't actually know anything about hipaa being like "yOu'Re VIolatiNG HipPA" meanwhile they can't even spell it right. It was a big point of discussion back when employers were requiring proof of covid vaccination, I must have seen a dozen a day on the book of faces talking about how their self perceived rights were being violated. Like no, the retail store you work at does not need to comply with HIPAA and they can require any vaccination they want to. Not that I agree with said employers, but it is what it is.
 

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And "Joshua's Law" doesn't even apply to general public so you can photograph all you want LOL.


... and the leading expert on this law has entered the room ... Hi ...

(Seriously, I am. At this time, I am the only person ever arrested under this law, and after two years the charges were dismissed following a judge determining that I had in no way violated the law and operated completely within the scope of the law, while adhering to my duties).
 
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... and the leading expert on this law has entered the room ... Hi ...

(Seriously, I am. At this time, I am the only person ever arrested under this law, and after two years the charges were dismissed following a judge determining that I had in no way violated the law and operated completely within the scope of the law, while adhering to my duties).
Two years?
... and the leading expert on this law has entered the room ... Hi ...

(Seriously, I am. At this time, I am the only person ever arrested under this law, and after two years the charges were dismissed following a judge determining that I had in no way violated the law and operated completely within the scope of the law, while adhering to my duties).
O.K. which G.A. Court were you stuck in? Norwich or Willimantic? two of the worst G.A. Courts to do business in. No prosecutorial discretion, no prosecutorial common sense. Followed by Manchester (a female prosecutor followed me into the men's room because I dared to walk away from her loud harangue) and Rockville where every case becomes a major production. I do recall hearing of your predicament, which was both unfortunate and unnecessary. Happy that all went well for you in the end. BTW: When I was on the"Job" I was sworn officer and the department photographer and darkroom maestro.
 

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Two years?

O.K. which G.A. Court were you stuck in? Norwich or Willimantic? two of the worst G.A. Courts to do business in. No prosecutorial discretion, no prosecutorial common sense. Followed by Manchester (a female prosecutor followed me into the men's room because I dared to walk away from her loud harangue) and Rockville where every case becomes a major production. I do recall hearing of your predicament, which was both unfortunate and unnecessary. Happy that all went well for you in the end. BTW: When I was on the"Job" I was sworn officer and the department photographer and darkroom maestro.

Norwich


 

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And I think I know who handled the State's file. Well, after all was said and done, courtesy of a lucid judge that matter was put behind you....that is in a manner of speaking.

Wish you well, enjoy reading your posts.
 

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And I think I know who handled the State's file. Well, after all was said and done, courtesy of a lucid judge that matter was put behind you....that is in a manner of speaking.

Wish you well, enjoy reading your posts.
Errata! Sorry.
 

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I read the complaint, solid allegations (fact & law), and is well written. As to NEUBERT, PEPE & MONTEITH, you can't do any better than that firm. I've had litigation matters with them both as plaintiff's counsel and defense counsel. They know what they're doing and they do it well.
 

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Fun Fact: HIPAA does not apply to police departments unless they run an ambulance service that bills ... and ... HIPAA does not apply to non-EMS Fire Departments.

HIPAA only applies to the following ... Health Care Providers that Transmit Records Electronically, Health Plans and Health Care Clearinghouses. That's it.

For running plates, use an MDT.

It's funny about the HIPAA thing (well, kinda no) in that your data, your health data is hacked and sold by data brokers and the hackers on an everyday basis. HIPAA, as how it was created is a marvelous joke...

For running plates, use an MDT.

Word.

Or a specific talkgroup that is encrypted.
 
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