Dallas Police Department (New system)

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Hello all,
In monitoring DPD the last few days I have noticed that it appears that their unit (or element as they call it) numbering system has changed and it sounds like it coincided with a new MDT system change as well.

The elements are checking out now as "Alpha322", "Romeo 240", "Echo455", etc.

They have been having a hell of a time with some new MDT protocols as well it sounds like.

Anyone have info on this change? Anyone figured out what their new numbering system is yet?
 

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Awesome! Much appreciated.

One further question, it has 1st watch as Alpha units and 5 watch as Echo units. Do 1st watch and 5th watch overlap? When I listen at night I hear Echo and Alpha units checking out together. Also on the page it had Romeo units as "SAFE," what exactly is that?

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Going through the DPD unit list on Ben's page I have been able to identify most of the abbreviations except a couple.. maybe someone here can tell me what they are..

OOCP
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Account
Safe
AI
V Crimes
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AI is Accident Investigators DPD Ch: 09 A & I's (Not ANI) as the DPD page Displays it.

Seems DFD has made changes too, Station Radios 460.575 is being Dispatched via Computer ..... WOW Now thats a Big Change!

Alpha, Echo WOW like DPD is trying to take on a Ft. Worth PD kinda style, this has been most interesting.

V Crimes is a No-Brainer BTW .... VIOLENT CRIMES .... lol oh and "Jocks" Motor-Jocks, aka Motorcycle Officers also assigned to Channel-9 doing STEP Enforcement, Can't remember what the Safe Unit is, but I believe they are tied to Auto-theft or something.
 
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AI is Accident Investigators DPD Ch: 09 A & I's (Not ANI) as the DPD page Displays it.

Seems DFD has made changes too, Station Radios 460.575 is being Dispatched via Computer ..... WOW Now thats a Big Change!

Alpha, Echo WOW like DPD is trying to take on a Ft. Worth PD kinda style, this has been most interesting.

V Crimes is a No-Brainer BTW .... VIOLENT CRIMES .... lol oh and "Jocks" Motor-Jocks, aka Motorcycle Officers also assigned to Channel-9 doing STEP Enforcement, Can't remember what the Safe Unit is, but I believe they are tied to Auto-theft or something.

Well V Crimes is under the Traffic Division so could that be Vehicle Crimes? Which Ben suggested that it could be me to when I asked him about this.

I noticed too that DFD has added this double beep at the end of transmission when the auto dispatch disengages. First time I noticed it I thought the batteries on my 246 was dieing. LOL.

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Well V Crimes is under the Traffic Division so could that be Vehicle Crimes? Which Ben suggested that it could be me to when I asked him about this.

I noticed too that DFD has added this double beep at the end of transmission when the auto dispatch disengages. First time I noticed it I thought the batteries on my 246 was dieing. LOL.

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I'd have to lean toward Vehicle Crimes Squad for the V Crimes as well. I believe I have heard occasional references to a 'task force' by that name. Besides the fact that V Crimes is slotted under the Traffic header instead of Special Investigations, those unit numbers have a "T" prefix, like the rest of the traffic units. (There is a ph# listed for Vehicle Crimes squad on DPD's web page.)

GRANTS would be traffic units working overtime paid for with money received via a grant from other than City of Dallas funds (usually either state or federal funds). The most common is DWI enforcement, though there are occasionally other campaigns, such as seat belts or speeding enforcement near holidays.

ACCOUNT has to be accounting. But is that accounting as in budget, or crime stats, or both? Since it's in the the same group with other admin area's, could be either, or both. My pure guess is that it would be tilted more toward crime statistics.

SAFE was initially developed to deal with high-crime areas, largely appartment complexes. Many of these had out of state landlords, dis-interested onsite management, were not being kept up to code, non-working ac/heat, exposed wiring, active drug sales activity going on, burglaries, etc, etc. The initial SAFE teams were, if I recall, a combo of police officers, fire inspectors, and code inspectors. They would target a complex: the police working the crime issues; fire on fire code violations; building inspectors on their code violations. The criminal element would either be arrested, or move out to escape, leaving a few less drug houses, and a safer neighborhood. Fire inspectors would deal with their share of code vio;ations, as would the building inspectors. Either repairs would be made, giving residents a better place to live (hopefully with the crime reduced as well), or the complex could be forced to close & be boarded up, and/or eventually torn down.

SAFE, I believe, has pretty much been superceded by Operation Disruption. Op Disrup has the same basic purpose, concentrate on a high crime area, arresting as many drug dealers, burglars, whatever, as possible, makining the area too hot for the others to continue 'business as usual'. I think Op Disrup may be mostly a PD project, unlike SAFE. I don't recall any references to FD or Code Enforcement participation in it.
 

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Matt,
I'd have to lean toward Vehicle Crimes Squad for the V Crimes as well. I believe I have heard occasional references to a 'task force' by that name. Besides the fact that V Crimes is slotted under the Traffic header instead of Special Investigations, those unit numbers have a "T" prefix, like the rest of the traffic units. (There is a ph# listed for Vehicle Crimes squad on DPD's web page.)

GRANTS would be traffic units working overtime paid for with money received via a grant from other than City of Dallas funds (usually either state or federal funds). The most common is DWI enforcement, though there are occasionally other campaigns, such as seat belts or speeding enforcement near holidays.

ACCOUNT has to be accounting. But is that accounting as in budget, or crime stats, or both? Since it's in the the same group with other admin area's, could be either, or both. My pure guess is that it would be tilted more toward crime statistics.

SAFE was initially developed to deal with high-crime areas, largely appartment complexes. Many of these had out of state landlords, dis-interested onsite management, were not being kept up to code, non-working ac/heat, exposed wiring, active drug sales activity going on, burglaries, etc, etc. The initial SAFE teams were, if I recall, a combo of police officers, fire inspectors, and code inspectors. They would target a complex: the police working the crime issues; fire on fire code violations; building inspectors on their code violations. The criminal element would either be arrested, or move out to escape, leaving a few less drug houses, and a safer neighborhood. Fire inspectors would deal with their share of code vio;ations, as would the building inspectors. Either repairs would be made, giving residents a better place to live (hopefully with the crime reduced as well), or the complex could be forced to close & be boarded up, and/or eventually torn down.

SAFE, I believe, has pretty much been superceded by Operation Disruption. Op Disrup has the same basic purpose, concentrate on a high crime area, arresting as many drug dealers, burglars, whatever, as possible, makining the area too hot for the others to continue 'business as usual'. I think Op Disrup may be mostly a PD project, unlike SAFE. I don't recall any references to FD or Code Enforcement participation in it.

Thanks for the explaination! That really clears up what some of those abbreviations mean.

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I wonder if SAFE more or less Became "COVERT" or "DEPLOYMENT" essentially? I hav'nt seen DPD reffer to SAFE since about the time that Deployment really started to become a serious unit.

V-CRIMES being "Vehicle Crimes" could be a good possibility.

I am still having a hard time with the NEW Computerized Dispatching on 460.575, that sounds So Alien for that channel. I think the same DFD Dispatcher has had that Channel for the last 20 years. and Now he's replaced by a Computer, this is gonna take some getting used to.
 

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I am still having a hard time with the NEW Computerized Dispatching on 460.575, that sounds So Alien for that channel. I think the same DFD Dispatcher has had that Channel for the last 20 years. and Now he's replaced by a Computer, this is gonna take some getting used to.

Does the computer say "Let's go now" on Box alarms?
 

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At the station I worked at Dispatch still occasionally calls in a fire on a direct line to the station. A horn connected to the phone goes off, the rookie picks it up (sounds a lot like the tone on Emergency). If it is a working fire the rookie screams at the top of his lungs "Its a live one, LETS GO!" then everyone rushes down the stairs and when he finishes getting the call info so does he.
 

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Does the computer say "Let's go now" on Box alarms?
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The computerized voice says :"Let's roll 'em, structure fire" as part of the announcement.

I miss the older live dispatchers, who would vary it up. Sometimes the 'Let's go now', or several versions of 'roll 'em'. For boxes where there had been multiple calls reporting the fire before it was toned out, you got the occasional "Pull your boots up, boys", before the roll 'em, or whatever.
 

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MaxTracker said:
I wonder if SAFE more or less Became "COVERT" or "DEPLOYMENT" essentially? I hav'nt seen DPD reffer to SAFE since about the time that Deployment really started to become a serious unit.
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I'd still guess that SAFE basically morphed into Operation Disruption, without the fire & code inspector participation that SAFE had. I have not seen or heard a mention of SAFE either, though Operation Disruption & Deployment do come up regularly.

Based on the times I hear the Echo units coming on duty, they're in the same time frame I was hearing covert & deployment units check in before the unit numbering changeover. I presume there's some sort of scheme to break down the unit number assignments between the two programs, but I really have not tried to concentrate on that aspect. Especially since those units are coming on 9 to 10 pm.
 
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