Davis temporary freq?

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Does anyone know what temporary frequency the City of Davis is using?
I know what frequencies they will be on when they get affiliated with the DPS system, but they discontinued using their police and fire frequencies on the 4th......I know that Murray county is dispatching during the evenings for them on the same temporary freq. , and have been told that Davis PD, Davis FD, Joy FD, Hennepin FD, and Dougherty FD are all on the same frequency for now....I have been searching for 3 weeks now along with going crosseyed cross referencing everything I can find on the internet. I would appreciate any help !
 

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Try close call or signal stalker (depending on your scanner brand) around the PD station or the cars as they are around you. You should be able to locate something fairly quick that way.
I wouldn't start stalking officers...that might get you a visit to the whoopin' stick.
 

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That sounds so wierd that wierd solutions are called for: If they are not on the mutual aid channels:

155.4900. 155.7600, 155.6700, or 154.1300,

If you haven't already, you might enter the repeater inputs and outputs of the proposed Davis DPS site (conventional mode rather than trunked) and see if they are using one of those for the time being. Alternatively, you might run through the V-Tac, U -Tac, and, since their new radios for the DPS system would be 800 MHz, especially the I - Tac channels.
 

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Thanks to both of you......I spent 3 hours today in the parking lot next to the PD and got nothing. I plugged in the proposed frequencies within 2 days of noticing that they weren't communicating on the previously used freqs.
I now have 3 scanners going.....LOL......1 with all of the previous channels........1 loaded with everything that is licensed in the county.......and 1 just seeking anything.......so far no luck, but am getting a workout restarting the scan when it locks on a birdie or a harmonic. I also know that they are using the same radios in the mobile units that we purchased when I was on the council 10 years ago.
 
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I wonder if Nextell walkie talkie phones are able to "broadcast" to several other phones at one time.

You definitely have a puzzler. Most agencies don't relinquish their frequencies even after the migrate to 800 Trunked which amuses me no end.

Maybe if you were to get a look at the antennas that might narrow down the band, but - nobody drops off the face of the radio earth like that. Maybe they went EDACS ProVoice - listen for a control channel that sounds like a Ford Model T on its last legs. :evil:

On a serious note, is there a commercial system that they could be renting time on? Like an LTR, sharing fire calls with concrete trucks?
 

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The antennas and the radios are the same as before........They had all of the volunteers for the FDs take their pagers and radios to seperate meetings the 4 days prior to the change to be reprogrammed........I know that they still have the capability of using the other frequencies due to them getting confused and using them .....LOL...and being told they were on the wrong channel.

The other evening while visiting with an officer I heard the tones opening up a repeater prior to him receiving a call and that is why I plugged every channel in the county in. I know that we leased tower space out to various companies when we enlarged Turner Falls.
 

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If the radios are the same (I assume VHF) then the mystery frequency must be close to the others already in the radio. Have you tried concentrating your search from 154 through 156 MHz?
 

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Just on a hunch, but try serching the band between 152.000MHz and 153.000MHz.
There have been some public safety radios show up there without the benefit of FCC licenses.
Especially south of OKC.

--fast2okc
 

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woodyrr said:
I wonder if Nextell walkie talkie phones are able to "broadcast" to several other phones at one time.
Yes, they can. The groups have to be set up in advance, and ours don't seem very change-the-members-on-the-fly friendly, but it's doable. Not sure how well they would work for LE or FD use though.
 

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Do you have any more information about a Davis migration to DPS statewide trunked?

Starting with the premise that they had to find some stopgap measure to continue communications after losing(?) the frequencies that they were using, I was trying to figure out something, anything that they could be using in the interim. That they reprogrammed a slew of radios and pagers suggests to me that this move is temporary in the more “permanent” sense of that word. There must be a whole lot more to this story. If you can figure out why this has happened, there is a better chance of figuring out where they went. When you do find them, I’ll bet that they won’t be hard to hear because if fast2okc is correct, which is likely, they have cobbled themselves up a repeater somewhere around there.

Good luck in your search.
 

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The best that I can figure out is that the reprogramming was due to Murray county's console not being able to handle any more frequencies.
Murray county will be doing all of the dispatching for the entities in the county including the National Park service once they get the new E 911 center built. Previously Davis handled half of the county, Murray County S.O. the other half, and the NPS & Sulphur themselves individually.
As I am typing this every fire unit in the county is trying to figure out what what channel to coordinate on. They were all paged out on a major grass fire that is now threatening a number of structures. A good argument for the DPS system, aside from the dispatchers being overwhelmed, since half of the handheld units can't communicate outside of themselves.
 

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I appreciate the input from everyone........Finally found it at 152.510.......I will post more as soon as I figure out what the repeater is.........Thanks again, Gene
 

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It looks as tho I should be considering replacement of my antiques......since trunking has really changed since I lived in Tulsa.......LOL
BC560XLT
BC80XLT
PRO 62
PRO 2026
PRO 34

Not to mention the 2 crystal controlled models......LOL
 

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I meant to type where the repeater was, but then after seeing your post on the paired frequencies I am watching them both............I don't know about what shop they are using, but I will go take a look at the ledger and find out. I appreciate the input.
 

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152.51 in Murray Co is licensed to what appears to me is probably the owner of Lawton Communications.
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=2421724
They have many other part 22 VHF paging licenses in that area
You might check all the 152/158 frequencies on the chart I posted
http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=service_bandplan&id=paging
and see if you hear anything besides paging.

Parker County, TX is using part 22 paging channels for their new P25 trunked system.
 

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Why the "Part 22" channels? Do they allow for more power output or something? What is different about these?
 

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From what little I can figure out, Parker County did it because there are no other frequencies available in the DFW area.
I don't know why anybody would need do that in rural Oklahoma and I have no idea why Davis would need temporary frequencies. What happened to their old ones?
The only benefit I can see is operating under a common carrier's license means they don't need to get their own, just like when a person uses a cell phone.
 
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