Frederick uses 10. And when does Charles use 10? I have never heard them go to a Washington COG area and use that.
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Charles Co is NOT part of COG. They do use # 10 when responsing with Quantico FD. Fredrick Co is # 9 on COG charts.
Yup, Frederick (MD) uses 9.
Manassas used to used 10 but is now on the PW system.
Makes sense if Charles used 10 now I guess.
Keep in mind, they may only use the numbering for the engines whereas COG members number channel plans using these numbers as well.
Manassas used to used 10 but is now on the PW system.
Makes sense if Charles used 10 now I guess.
Keep in mind, they may only use the numbering for the engines whereas COG members number channel plans using these numbers as well.
Where would Charles respond with Quantico anywhere but on the water?
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Farifax and Charles routinely run calls together on the water!!!
Charles is not part of COG and I cannot say I have personally heard them use the 10 designator. I will have to start monitoring them.
I listen to Charles a lot (I live there), and have never heard this "10" designator at all. We're not even a member of COG. I also haven't heard a lot of MA calls to Quantico, granted I don't listen all the time. Some kind of bad reception in my area (cell tower, likely guess).
Last few water calls, I've actually heard Stafford more than Fairfax or even King George. We seem to have a ton more resources for water stuff (dive team, both MSP Trooper Helos, DNR). King George has a Charles radio for interop (UID i22605), but other than that, it seems nowadays, they're falling back to the 8TAC* channels for water stuff. I haven't even heard the "Marshall Hall" channel on Fairfax's system get used in a very long time.
Is the 10 designator simply getting mixed up with the company numbers? Bryans Road is Company 11 and the Dive Team is Company 13. Newburg, who also responds to water calls, is Company 14.
Last few water calls, I've actually heard Stafford more than Fairfax or even King George. We seem to have a ton more resources for water stuff (dive team, both MSP Trooper Helos, DNR). King George has a Charles radio for interop (UID i22605), but other than that, it seems nowadays, they're falling back to the 8TAC* channels for water stuff. I haven't even heard the "Marshall Hall" channel on Fairfax's system get used in a very long time.
Is the 10 designator simply getting mixed up with the company numbers? Bryans Road is Company 11 and the Dive Team is Company 13. Newburg, who also responds to water calls, is Company 14.
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Hi Kumba!
I have heard Charles County start dispatching with the 10A2 designation along with other 10A"x" assignments. Do you know if they are using the same talkgroups for all the previous TAC channels. 10A2 definitely uses the old TAC 2 talkgroup but don't about the others.
Thanks, n1508j
I have heard Charles County start dispatching with the 10A2 designation along with other 10A"x" assignments. Do you know if they are using the same talkgroups for all the previous TAC channels. 10A2 definitely uses the old TAC 2 talkgroup but don't about the others.
Thanks, n1508j
I haven't listened to the scanner recently, but I think they're still using the normal station identifiers for in-county calls (i.e., "Rescue Engine 113" for BRVFD handing an in-county call). Unsure about external mutual aid calls. I can't monitor PG very well due to having the older 396XT and not having updated PG's talkgroups recently.
I did confirm that "10" is Charles' COG designator, though, via the Brandywine VFD Facebook page. On an incident that they posted about once, they listed several apparatuses with "10" prefixes, and I asked if that was Charles, and they said it was.
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Thanks Kumba for the info.
I was worried that the new 10A assignments had different talk groups. I saw the same talkgroups on RR listings so hope they stay the same! Thanks again, N108J
10 in the COG assignment for City of Manassass who is in the DC COG unlike Charles County
No, the City of Manassas is a 500-series since they're in PWC. City of Manassas is 501 and the City of Manassas Park is 509.
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Marshall Hall is an area in Charles county that is on a slope towards the Potomac and not well covered by the Charles county P25 system. It is however well covered by one of the Fairfax towers on the other side of the river. The two county governments have come to an agreement that assigned a talk-group on Fairfaxes system to be used for units operating in the Marshall Hall area. I don't know the details on how it is implemented, but it allows the Charles county communications center to talk to Charles county units (usually Bryans Road VFD) using the Fairfax system.
I guess I'm in the minority in this but even though I like the COG numbering being used to name the trunk groups I REALLY wish all the areas using the COG would only use them when on mutual aid to another County.
I've always thought the previous numbering systems were much better. But then again I have always hated any system that changes TO a system that uses a -1, -2, -A, -B type system. I get WHY those that have changed to it did. But to me looking at the COG numbering in a vacuum it's a major downgrade.
I've always thought the previous numbering systems were much better. But then again I have always hated any system that changes TO a system that uses a -1, -2, -A, -B type system. I get WHY those that have changed to it did. But to me looking at the COG numbering in a vacuum it's a major downgrade.
We use COG numbers for mutual aid into PG and the stations that do it on a regular basis just switch to the COG identifier when they check in with PG safety communications.
With St Marys, Calvert and King George, we use county+unit. Occasionally, this creates some confusion when 'St Marys Squad 2' runs mutual aid into Charles and the ICS may call for 'Squad 2 bring saws and hooks' and it may not be immediately clear whether he is talking to his own 'Squad 2' or the 'St Marys Squad 2' who are both on the scene.
When I ran in Prince William County they hadnt fully implemented COG numbering outside of Fairfax Arlington and Alexandria,, (I remember when they started Auto Mutual Aide Fairfax was allotted 1-49, Alexandria was 50s, Feds were 60s and Arlington was 70s before they went to the 1,2,3,4 etc).. Truth is now with the unifed and automatic mutual aide it just makes it easier for them since units are auto dispatched now along the borders especially for MVCs and such..
Currently living in Phoenix AZ metro it was a similiar situation out here but now all agencies have a block of unit IDs assigned to each agency. IE Phoenix has 1-99 plus 900s (the 900s are basically 2ndary units to certain stations and sometimes peak only staffed units such as certain 2ndary Engine companies like Engine 930 runs out of Station 30 in Phoenix). Scottsdale has 600-620, Mesa is 200-229, Tempe is 270s, Indian reservation which has a huge first due along a major highway is 290s.. It just works and at this point if it isnt broke dont fix it..
I will say I had the alphanumerics now such as Engine 601A or 601B or Medic 510A, Ambulance 510B.. But thats just me but I know they had to do something when back when I ran there 1998-2001 we were 3 digit trucks for EMS alot of times like 10-9, 10-8 13-9 etc.. I assume the -9s are now the Alpha, -8s became Baker and -7s became Charlie
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