DTCS Code Not Showing in Radio or Chirp Dropdown

[APSN556]

Trying to program two local GMRS repeaters with TX DTCS Tones. One is D077N and the other is D377N. However, neither of these tones is available within the dropdown in the radio or in chirp. I read somewhere that the motorola DTCS tones are sometimes different and need to be converted. Any ideas?

 

[Hans13]

I am not that knowledgeable but I know that Motorola doesn't generally allow non-standard DPL codes. Perhaps try the inverse DPL?

 

[APSN556]

I am not that knowledgeable but I know that Motorola doesn't generally allow non-standard DPL codes. Perhaps try the inverse DPL?

Im programming a UV-32 using chirp. Where can I find what the inverse DPL is?

 

[Hans13]

Im programming a UV-32 using chirp. Where can I find what the inverse DPL is?

Is there one with an R or an I after it? i.e. D077R or D077I

 

[APSN556]

Is there one with an R or an I after it? i.e. D077R or D077I

Just says LOCAL USE INPUT CODE D077
the other says LOCAL USE TONE D377N

 

[Hans13]

Just says LOCAL USE INPUT CODE D077
the other says LOCAL USE TONE D377N

As I read that, they want you to use either D077 or D377N. So, that changes nothing from your OP. You want to access a repeater with a DCS/DPL of D077 or D377N. I can't find a list of valid UV-32 DCS. It might be that the UV-32 does not support those two; I am pretty sure Motorola doesn't from the lists I've seen (those codes invalid per Motorola, AFAIK). That's why I said to look for an inverse and see if it is offered in the programming.

If you are unsure, get out of Chirp and try it in the manufacturer's software.

ETA: I see that you misunderstood my previous post... "Is there one with an R or an I after it? i.e. D077R or D077I" as an option in Chirp.

 

[Hans13]

In the Chirp screen I just looked at, DCS has a polarity. Perhaps set the inverse there if present.

 

[APSN556]

In the Chirp screen I just looked at, DCS has a polarity. Perhaps set the inverse there if present.

Great suggestion. I appreciate the troubleshooting. Unfortunately, changing the polarity still did not let me choose 077 or 377 as a DTCS code. I even changed chirp profiles to my Kenwood, Motorola, and other Baofeng, but that code simply isn't an option. I did some research here on RR and found this thread. Seems some repeater owners have recently been using these non-standard codes as a means to keep non-commercial radios and "bad apples" from using the repeater.

 

[nd5y]

Where can I find what the inverse DPL is?

DCS - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

 

[Hans13]

DCS - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

That's the list! I couldn't remember where I found it before. Thanks.

 

[APSN556]

DCS - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

as suspected, 077 and 377 are not on there. Pretty sure at this point the repeater owner intentionally used a non-standard DPL code/tone to thwart users who aren't using newer model Motorolas and Kenwoods.

 

[Hans13]

Presuming that you have permission to access, why not contact the repeater owner and inquire? It's the simplest way to get answers.

 

[APSN556]

Presuming that you have permission to access, why not contact the repeater owner and inquire? It's the simplest way to get answers.

I've sent them an inquiry. Will report back.

 

[Hans13]

I've sent them an inquiry. Will report back.

Sounds like a solid plan, friend.

 

[ecps92]

Trying to program two local GMRS repeaters with TX DTCS Tones. One is D077N and the other is D377N. However, neither of these tones is available within the dropdown in the radio or in chirp. I read somewhere that the motorola DTCS tones are sometimes different and need to be converted. Any ideas?

Looks like you are attempting to use Non Standard codes, not many radios allow that.

DCS - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

 

[nokones]

The DCS codes being used by the four repeaters (Towers 575, Towers 600, Shaw Butte, and Signal Peak) being referred to, are non-standard DCS codes and are not inverted. The Motorola XTL and XTS series radios and the older series radio will not accept the use of any Tone or Code not listed in the pulldown lists/tables.

It is my understanding that the APX series radios also will not allow the use or you can deviate from the pulldown lists and overwrite with any non-standard Tones or Codes. However, some or all of the XPR series radios will allow you to use the non-standard Tones and Codes using the CPS 2 Programming Software. I'm not sure about thd older CPS version programming software for the XPR series radios.

I am using those very same non-standard codes in my XPR5550e and XPR7550e radios for those four listed repeaters.

Also, I am able to change/overwrite the Tones and Codes listed in the pulldown lists with the Kenwood CPS programming software in the TK780 and 880 series radios.

The repeater owner decided to use the non-standard Codes because of an individual constantly jamming the four repeaters. This problem has been going on for two years and these repeaters are in high elevations and are heavily used by licensed GMRS users.

I was hoping that the repeater owner for those four sites would have used MDC PT-T ID or RAC like some of the other repeater owners had to do in other areas of the State so I can continue using my XTL and XTS and other vintage series Motorola radios.

 

[nokones]

I've sent them an inquiry. Will report back.

The repeater owner for those sites has turned off the ability feature to request permission, so there is no way in contacting him at this time.